Simon Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 tl;dr I am Von Rousseau was clearly not healthy tonight and spent 90% of the game holding an edge and protecting himself. Then later in crunch time he started sticking that foot in the ground and getting after people for real. It was the sort of game you occasionally see from another veteran DE that recently entered the Bills locker room. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Shaq Lawson? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Thought this was his best game as a Bill, didn't look like his ankle was bothering him. He fired off the ball, had a couple great stunts/forced holding penalty, and a batted pass. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Talked to a wake trainer a few months ago who promised good things to come from him and that he's not hit the ceiling at all. Last year he was too big. Bills want him 270ish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 He’s the best player on that defense IMO and he’s going to get a monster contract in a few years - like $150M type contract. He’s an absolute game wrecker. I could not be higher on him . 11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Groot might be one of the best 4-3 DEs in terms of run defense. He’s stout. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Groot might be one of the best 4-3 DEs in terms of run defense. He’s stout. He helped set the tone in the run game early tonight. He's a great tackler. Tied for the NFL lead in run stops by a DL last season........as a rookie.......in a rotational system. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Could have gotten 2 or 3 sacks tonight... Bills DEs other than Miller have a knack for getting more almost sacks and "how the hell did he escape??" plays than any team I have ever seen. 2 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 That’s a big dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBy50 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 The guy is incredible we have sorely missed him out there!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dopey said: That’s a big dude. He's 22 and not even a man yet. He's going to hurt somebody eventually. 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 He played a heck of a game.The Bills have some very athletic, rangy type players on their defense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 39 minutes ago, Simon said: He's 22 and not even a man yet. He's going to hurt somebody eventually. He better hit somebody or Diggs will hit him! 😃 Von Miller better put him back on that “Gunpowder and Gasoline” diet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 56 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Could have gotten 2 or 3 sacks tonight... Bills DEs other than Miller have a knack for getting more almost sacks and "how the hell did he escape??" plays than any team I have ever seen. Yeah, there was the one play where it seemed like the whole DL had at least one shot as Jones kept scrambling for what seemed way over 10 seconds and nobody got him. That was the play where Michaels said Phillips was down as they went to break. Phillips was probably exhausted from the amount of running he did on that play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 First Pats offensive play of the game was about to be a big run for a 1st down and more, and immediately Rousseau reminded us all why we missed him getting his big paws on the RB and taking him down after a measley two yards. Three plays later they have to punt. It was a tone-setting play and it was one of many that he single handedly wrecked. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 50 is a BEAST 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Simon said: He's 22 and not even a man yet. He's going to hurt somebody eventually. He is still 5 years older than Edmunds! 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Groot is having a great season! Love this kid is coming into his own. Also love his draft mate Basham played a heck of a game last night. Edited December 2, 2022 by davefan66 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 The play second half where he saw something in the protection, picked his head up communicated to the outside of him - which I imagine was "you guys look after the edge, I'm going in" and then stunted and almost got home but did enough on 3rd down to force and incompletion was real high level stuff. I am convinced he callee that stunt himself based on what he had seen. Kid is a hell of a player, and yes, we miss Von's closing ability but with Oliver and Groot playing as they are it needn't spell disaster. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 7 hours ago, boyst said: Talked to a wake trainer a few months ago who promised good things to come from him and that he's not hit the ceiling at all. Last year he was too big. Bills want him 270ish That's interesting. I see some Mario Williams in Groot. But Mario probably played about 15 to 20 pounds heavier than 270. The Bills must sense some hidden athleticism in Groot. And, I agree with the sense here that the kid is special now and is going to be even more special down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 He was fantastic. What a difference with Groot, Edmunds and Tre White. Groot is a star, and he is going to be a superstar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 The dline did great, had Mac rattled all game, stopped the run. Great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreezeMafia Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: He’s the best player on that defense IMO and he’s going to get a monster contract in a few years - like $150M type contract. He’s an absolute game wrecker. I could not be higher on him . Agree. He was the best D lineman tonight. Was really great to see all the young D Line studs own the line of scrimmage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockeye Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Not to hijack, but where was Ed Oliver, esp after that monster game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bockeye said: Not to hijack, but where was Ed Oliver, esp after that monster game? I thought he collapsed the pocket often. Drew at least 1 holding call maybe 2. D-line pressured Mac on 39% of his dropbacks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Simon said: He's 22 and not even a man yet. He's going to hurt somebody eventually. lol good stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, Bockeye said: Not to hijack, but where was Ed Oliver, esp after that monster game? There were some significant line stunts going on the entire game. I haven’t watched the All-22 but I think Ed played a big role in some of those middle pressures using the stunts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 He was awesome last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, boyst said: Talked to a wake trainer a few months ago who promised good things to come from him and that he's not hit the ceiling at all. Last year he was too big. Bills want him 270ish Dude is still raw...he didn't even play in the year he got drafted in college and the year before that he was a raw freshman who simply dominated with athleticism. Unlimited potential...and Von knows it. 42 minutes ago, AmishRifle said: There were some significant line stunts going on the entire game. I haven’t watched the All-22 but I think Ed played a big role in some of those middle pressures using the stunts. I swear I can't remember watching another team have as many "almost sacks" that make you wonder "How did the QB escape?!?!?" over the last 5 years as the Bills have had...every game it seems they have 3 or 4 that other teams would get. Literally felt the only reason AJE got that sack last night was Mac Jones basically ran right into him and forced him to sack him. Edited December 2, 2022 by Big Turk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 10 hours ago, Big Turk said: Could have gotten 2 or 3 sacks tonight... Bills DEs other than Miller have a knack for getting more almost sacks and "how the hell did he escape??" plays than any team I have ever seen. Jones was also a magician at escaping pressure last night! However, unlike Lamar Jackson, he didn’t really try any actual runs past the LOS. And unlike Mahomes and Jacoby Brissett against us, his passing under pressure sucked bigtime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 10 hours ago, Simon said: tl;dr I am Von Rousseau was clearly not healthy tonight and spent 90% of the game holding an edge and protecting himself. Then later in crunch time he started sticking that foot in the ground and getting after people for real. It was the sort of game you occasionally see from another veteran DE that recently entered the Bills locker room. I thought something similar. He turned it up a notch in the fourth quarter. Had a couple of amazing bull rushes, like Miller. He still needs to learn to finish like Miller does, but other than that, he's a force when he's on the field. The deflection of that pass to the right flat was a combination of his exceptional length and great eye-hand coordination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Bills Fan Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 10 hours ago, Simon said: tl;dr I am Von Rousseau was clearly not healthy tonight and spent 90% of the game holding an edge and protecting himself. Then later in crunch time he started sticking that foot in the ground and getting after people for real. It was the sort of game you occasionally see from another veteran DE that recently entered the Bills locker room. Dead on. Thought i was the only one that noticed the way Miller plays. That’s who he is learning from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRifle Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: I swear I can't remember watching another team have as many "almost sacks" that make you wonder "How did the QB escape?!?!?" over the last 5 years as the Bills have had...every game it seems they have 3 or 4 that other teams would get. Literally felt the only reason AJE got that sack last night was Mac Jones basically ran right into him and forced him to sack him. I don’t get it either. It has to be coaching. Every one of our D-lineman seem to not be able to tackle the QB except for Von. It’s almost like they are overly concerned with keeping contain or something and this causes them to take weird angles and not go for the tackle. It’s quite odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, AmishRifle said: I don’t get it either. It has to be coaching. Every one of our D-lineman seem to not be able to tackle the QB except for Von. It’s almost like they are overly concerned with keeping contain or something and this causes them to take weird angles and not go for the tackle. It’s quite odd. They also dive at the QB a lot when it looks like they would be better off just going in for a normal upright tackle attempt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, SectionC3 said: That's interesting. I see some Mario Williams in Groot. But Mario probably played about 15 to 20 pounds heavier than 270. The Bills must sense some hidden athleticism in Groot. And, I agree with the sense here that the kid is special now and is going to be even more special down the road. Very Mario- esque, love to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Big Turk said: Could have gotten 2 or 3 sacks tonight... Bills DEs other than Miller have a knack for getting more almost sacks and "how the hell did he escape??" plays than any team I have ever seen. it's like the ghost of Jerry Hughes still lingers........😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: The dline did great, had Mac rattled all game, stopped the run. Great job. Yep, he was rattled and it was great to see Mac Jones screaming at the O linemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Bockeye said: Not to hijack, but where was Ed Oliver, esp after that monster game? One intentional grounding away from from having a safety in back to back weeks (ball spot depending). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 We always hear about how line play requires people to get low, to get leverage against their opponent. Usually that's true. So how can Groot be as good as he obviously is against the run, when he's so tall? The Bills have assembled a defense of unicorns, guys with special skills or attributes. Either huge space-eating bodies like Edmunds and Groot, or quickness and strength like Oliver, or speed and anticipation like Milano, or all of the above for Dr Poyer and Mr Hyde. Oh yeah, Tre White is back. Von Miller gets back in a few weeks. Please God we've had all the injuries a team should have to endure. It's time for good things to happen. 9 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Yep, he was rattled and it was great to see Mac Jones screaming at the O linemen. I have NEVER seen Josh Allen berating a teammate in public, and I don't expect to ever do so. Leadership comes from doing your own job well, and inspiring those around you to do the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Bockeye said: Not to hijack, but where was Ed Oliver, esp after that monster game? The Patriots TRIPLED him on some plays last night. It is why the edges ate. They had 1v1s all night. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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