UKBillFan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: We need a thread just for actual legitimate updates on Josh Allen so I can avoid this one 😂  Hope everyone realises McDermott's update tomorrow will be "we're taking it day by day". 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack_in_MA Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Keenum is God awful and I would expect to lose ALL games he starts. Â Just the way it is. Â PS: Â It's the same for EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE Â Â Â Â You should change your screen name. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: We need a thread just for actual legitimate updates on Josh Allen so I can avoid this one 😂 Right I’m at work getting funny looks. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, Greg S said: If Keenum plays I think it will help the Bills get them out of their funk. This team relies on Josh to do everything and sometimes to a fault. With Keenum the rest of the team knows they will have to pick it up. A vet QB like Keenum is good enough to get wins if Josh misses some time. This isn't a TEN situation where they give Henry the ball a 100 times a game because they have no passing game. Keenum can be a productive QB. Â They are in their annual McDermott mid-season malaise so yeah I'd be fine with Keenum starting and the team have to focus on the fundamentals offensively and realizing that they actually have to tackle somebody now on defense. Â Â The effort in run defense the past two games has been horrific. Â Â McDermott needs to find an answer to this BS..........the players treat him like a substitute teacher every November. Â Â 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, BananaB said: After that injury he could hardly throw the ball. After Sundays injury he threw a laser 70 yards downfield and hit Gabe between the 1 and 3. That was pure adrenaline he was on. That throw means little to nothing. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Keenum is God awful and I would expect to lose ALL games he starts.  Just the way it is.  PS:  It's the same for EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE     He started two games last year and the Browns won both:  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202201090cle.htm (102.1 rating; only one sack taken)  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202110210cle.htm (90.3 rating; only one sack taken vs. a good Denver defense that still had Von Miller)  I agree that he generally sucks, physical talent wise, but he can get you to .500 over a four game stretch if the defense doesn't give up a ton of points. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: That was pure adrenaline he was on. That throw means little to nothing.  From everything I've heard from sports medicine/PT people, this statement is completely false.  Adrenaline cannot mask structural damage. There's no chance he could physically throw the ball that far, with that velocity, if the damage was severe. 3 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I am expecting Allen to be out at least 3 games and perhaps out the rest of the season. At this point, I'd take the 3 games. Out for the regular season would be bad bad. Maybe he Will be ready playoff time if the Bills make it to the playoffs.  The way this season has been going with injuries it's hard to be optimistic. Please football gods be on Allen's side. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 we also say Keenum in preseason, with less than ideal weapons and short time to learn the offense.  I dont want Keenum to start, but our defense will give him a chance to win games and he has had a half a season to pick up the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I am expecting Allen to be out at least 3 games and perhaps out the rest of the season. At this point, I'd take the 3 games. Out for the regular season would be bad bad. Maybe he Will be ready playoff time if the Bills make it to the playoffs.  The way this season has been going with injuries it's hard to be optimistic. Please football gods be on Allen's side. May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? 1 11 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Keenum is God awful and I would expect to lose ALL games he starts. Â Just the way it is. Â PS: Â It's the same for EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE Â Â Â Â So much for next man up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, Greg S said:  Keenum needs to be this Bills team's version of Frank Reich. Remember the times #12 got hurt and we all thought gloom and doom. Frank did well and not just the comeback game either. He played well in a number of games. I expect (hope) Keenum does the same thing now. I hear Reich is available these days. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? I went ahead and goggled sylvia plath, yep a real uplifting read/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, SCBills said:  From everything I've heard from sports medicine/PT people, this statement is completely false.  Adrenaline cannot mask structural damage. There's no chance he could physically throw the ball that far, with that velocity, if the damage was severe. Kinda of like when Philip Rivers in Jan 2019 played with a torn ACL?  This is Josh Allen we are talking about. The guy is beyond a beast. Adrenaline can mask pain for an instance like this.  I'm not buying what you are selling. No disrespect intended. 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? Not my style. I will wait nervously for upcoming news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: Kinda of like when Philip Rivers in Jan 2019 played with a torn ACL?  This is Josh Allen we are talking about. The guy is beyond a beast. Adrenaline can mask pain for an instance like this.  I'm not buying what you are selling. No disrespect intended.  Your comparison would Phillip Rivers playing on a torn ACL and then scrambling on it for 30-40 yards requiring side to side motion... which he did not do.   Tommy Doyle played on a torn ACL but that's because we just asked him to block best he can... he wasn't out there pulling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, newcam2012 said: Kinda of like when Philip Rivers in Jan 2019 played with a torn ACL?  This is Josh Allen we are talking about. The guy is beyond a beast. Adrenaline can mask pain for an instance like this.  I'm not buying what you are selling. No disrespect intended.  The difference is that the UCL is crucial for the throwing motion whereas the ACL is not crucial for standing in the pocket. I'm not a doctor but several players have played their entire careers without an ACL. I don't know of any QBs or pitchers who have played without a UCL and I don't think it's even possible.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:   The way this season has been going with injuries it's hard to be optimistic. Please football gods be on Allen's side. We currently hold the number one seed and it’s hard to be optimistic?  Were you hoping for the zero seed through 8 games?  The negative 3 seed? 9 minutes ago, TheProcess said: I hear Reich is available these days. The particle sun returns. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? Whatever happened to those days when all we needed was a nice bubble bath and then curl up with a hot cup of Irish Mocha mint and a steamy Harlequin romance novel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? You should read read his comments in games when they don’t score in a quarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Kinda of like when Philip Rivers in Jan 2019 played with a torn ACL?  This is Josh Allen we are talking about. The guy is beyond a beast. Adrenaline can mask pain for an instance like this.  I'm not buying what you are selling. No disrespect intended. Not my style. I will wait nervously for upcoming news.  Come on.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Theres only one man who can save our season. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 15 hours ago, Success said:  Every response to my comment has been the same.  The point is that good teams can still find a way to compete, whatever that is. We have a capable backup QB. We won't be lost.  So we have an offensive weapon similar to Derrick Henry then?  I mean do you completely have zero recollection of the drought? With Keenum this team sinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, MPT said: Â The difference is that the UCL is crucial for the throwing motion whereas the ACL is not crucial for standing in the pocket. I'm not a doctor but several players have played their entire careers without an ACL. I don't know of any QBs or pitchers who have played without a UCL and I don't think it's even possible. Â Â Unless the injury got worse after the game, how do you explain a 70 yard pass AFTER the injury? It certainly seems "possible" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, BuffaloBillies said:  Unless the injury got worse after the game, how do you explain a 70 yard pass AFTER the injury? It certainly seems "possible" The Hines pass ?  The pass was badly overthrown. Perhaps Josh was over-compensating  A healthy Josh hits that and we win the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: So we have an offensive weapon similar to Derrick Henry then?  I mean do you completely have zero recollection of the drought? With Keenum this team sinks.  No, we certainly don't. But the point is that teams adapt to other strengths that they have. Tennessee found a way to be in the game for the full 60 against KC, even though they completed 5 passes.  We have much more talent than TN overall, and Keenum has led a team to the playoffs in his career. He's not a scrub, and he doesn't stink.  Edited November 8, 2022 by Success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said: The Hines pass ?  The pass was badly overthrown. Perhaps Josh was over-compensating  A healthy Josh hits that and we win the game.  No, the Gabe pass that hit him in the chest 70 yards away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Kinda of like when Philip Rivers in Jan 2019 played with a torn ACL?  This is Josh Allen we are talking about. The guy is beyond a beast. Adrenaline can mask pain for an instance like this.  I'm not buying what you are selling. No disrespect intended. Not my style. I will wait nervously for upcoming news. Look at the bright side: if Keenum plays you'll get to watch some really exciting slug fests between backup level QBs over the next few weeks as we face off against Cousins, Brissett, and Goff!! You love that crap.  3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: So we have an offensive weapon similar to Derrick Henry then?  I mean do you completely have zero recollection of the drought? With Keenum this team sinks. This team is in no way comparable to the drought teams. With that said, I’d rather not find out if Keenum can keep us afloat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: The particle sun returns. Lol must be voice to text! 😜  The Parable of the Prodigal Son (also known as the parable of the Two Brothers, Lost Son, Loving Father, or of the Forgiving Father) is one of the parables of Jesus Christ in the Bible, appearing in Luke 15:11–32 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I feel like this is the like stadium renderings, well we're waiting again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 20 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? I think she stuck her head in a oven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: That was pure adrenaline he was on. That throw means little to nothing. I mean if your ucl is torn you’re gonna be in immense pain after that throw…maybe adrenaline gets you through the actual throwing of the ball part.  I didn’t see much if any evidence of that.  He also physically would not have been able to throw the ball that far…it’s not a question of pain tolerance.    Edited November 8, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, freddyjj said: Lol must be voice to text! 😜  The Parable of the Prodigal Son (also known as the parable of the Two Brothers, Lost Son, Loving Father, or of the Forgiving Father) is one of the parables of Jesus Christ in the Bible, appearing in Luke 15:11–32 It’s not. It’s his low self of steam. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I think Josh plays Sunday. A LOT of running and short screens and passes.   Get some defensive players back on the field… win game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: So we have an offensive weapon similar to Derrick Henry then?  I mean do you completely have zero recollection of the drought? With Keenum this team sinks. with Keenum, this team won’t get away with a lot of sloppy play or mistakes.  This is a talented roster that will have to tighten up their play if he starts….  but they don’t stink… Edited November 8, 2022 by B-Large Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, K-9 said: It’s not. It’s his low self of steam.  Posts like this are a French benefit of this forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Look at the bright side: if Keenum plays you'll get to watch some really exciting slug fests between backup level QBs over the next few weeks as we face off against Cousins, Brissett, and Goff!! You love that crap.  Cousins has been playing pretty good.  But you're right about Brissett and Goff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Ralonzo said: Â Posts like this are a French benefit of this forum. I love French benefits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, B-Large said: with Keenum, this team won’t get away with a lot of sloppy play or mistakes.  This is a talented roster that will have to tighten up their play if he starts….  but they don’t stink… We can win some of these games down the stretch with mostly defense if we get poyer/Milano/tre back.  The offense is going to struggle if the offensive line play doesn’t improve though no matter who the qb is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: The Hines pass ?  The pass was badly overthrown. Perhaps Josh was over-compensating  A healthy Josh hits that and we win the game. Uh the pass to Davis for 70 yards hit him between the 1 and 3. Davis being a mediocre receiver isn’t Josh’s fault 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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