Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)

[UKBillFan]

3 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

We need a thread just for actual legitimate updates on Josh Allen so I can avoid this one 😂

 

Hope everyone realises McDermott's update tomorrow will be "we're taking it day by day".

[Slack_in_MA]

9 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Keenum is God awful and I would expect to lose ALL games he starts.

 

Just the way it is.

 

PS:  It's the same for EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE

 

 

 

 

You should change your screen name.

[97bills]

7 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

We need a thread just for actual legitimate updates on Josh Allen so I can avoid this one 😂

Right I’m at work getting funny looks. Lol 

[BADOLBILZ]

28 minutes ago, Greg S said:

If Keenum plays I think it will help the Bills get them out of their funk. This team relies on Josh to do everything and sometimes to a fault. With Keenum the rest of the team knows they will have to pick it up. A vet QB like Keenum is good enough to get wins if Josh misses some time. This isn't a TEN situation where they give Henry the ball a 100 times a game because they have no passing game. Keenum can be a productive QB.

 

They are in their annual McDermott mid-season malaise so yeah I'd be fine with Keenum starting and the team have to focus on the fundamentals offensively and realizing that they actually have to tackle somebody now on defense.    The effort in run defense the past two games has been horrific.    McDermott needs to find an answer to this BS..........the players treat him like a substitute teacher every November.    

[newcam2012]

17 minutes ago, BananaB said:

After that injury he could hardly throw the ball. After Sundays injury he threw a laser 70 yards downfield and hit Gabe between the 1 and 3. 

That was pure adrenaline he was on. That throw means little to nothing. 

[dave mcbride]

11 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Keenum is God awful and I would expect to lose ALL games he starts.

 

Just the way it is.

 

PS:  It's the same for EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE

 

 

 

 

He started two games last year and the Browns won both:

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202201090cle.htm (102.1 rating; only one sack taken)

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202110210cle.htm (90.3 rating; only one sack taken vs. a good Denver defense that still had Von Miller)

 

I agree that he generally sucks, physical talent wise, but he can get you to .500 over a four game stretch if the defense doesn't give up a ton of points.

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

That was pure adrenaline he was on. That throw means little to nothing. 

 

From everything I've heard from sports medicine/PT people, this statement is completely false. 

 

Adrenaline cannot mask structural damage.  There's no chance he could physically throw the ball that far, with that velocity, if the damage was severe. 

[newcam2012]

I am expecting Allen to be out at least 3 games and perhaps out the rest of the season. At this point, I'd take the 3 games. Out for the regular season would be bad bad. Maybe he Will be ready playoff time if the Bills make it to the playoffs. 

 

The way this season has been going with injuries it's hard to be optimistic. Please football gods be on Allen's side. 

[Cray51]

we also say Keenum in preseason, with less than ideal weapons and short time to learn the offense.

 

I dont want  Keenum to start, but our defense will give him a chance to win games and he has had a half a season to pick up the offense.

[Jauronimo]

4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I am expecting Allen to be out at least 3 games and perhaps out the rest of the season. At this point, I'd take the 3 games. Out for the regular season would be bad bad. Maybe he Will be ready playoff time if the Bills make it to the playoffs. 

 

The way this season has been going with injuries it's hard to be optimistic. Please football gods be on Allen's side. 

May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? 

[RoyBatty is alive]

22 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Keenum is God awful and I would expect to lose ALL games he starts.

 

Just the way it is.

 

PS:  It's the same for EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE

 

 

 

 

So much for next man up

[Blank Stare]

31 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Keenum needs to be this Bills team's version of Frank Reich. Remember the times #12 got hurt and we all thought gloom and doom. Frank did well and not just the comeback game either. He played well in a number of games. I expect (hope) Keenum does the same thing now.

I hear Reich is available these days. 

[RoyBatty is alive]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? 

I went ahead and goggled sylvia plath, yep a real uplifting read/

[newcam2012]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

From everything I've heard from sports medicine/PT people, this statement is completely false. 

 

Adrenaline cannot mask structural damage.  There's no chance he could physically throw the ball that far, with that velocity, if the damage was severe. 

Kinda of like when Philip Rivers in Jan 2019 played with a torn ACL? 

 

This is Josh Allen we are talking about. The guy is beyond a beast. Adrenaline can mask pain for an instance like this. 

 

I'm not buying what you are selling. No disrespect intended.

3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? 

Not my style. I will wait nervously for upcoming news. 

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

Kinda of like when Philip Rivers in Jan 2019 played with a torn ACL? 

 

This is Josh Allen we are talking about. The guy is beyond a beast. Adrenaline can mask pain for an instance like this. 

 

I'm not buying what you are selling. No disrespect intended.

 

Your comparison would Phillip Rivers playing on a torn ACL and then scrambling on it for 30-40 yards requiring side to side motion... which he did not do.  

 

Tommy Doyle played on a torn ACL but that's because we just asked him to block best he can... he wasn't out there pulling. 

[MPT]

Just now, newcam2012 said:

Kinda of like when Philip Rivers in Jan 2019 played with a torn ACL? 

 

This is Josh Allen we are talking about. The guy is beyond a beast. Adrenaline can mask pain for an instance like this. 

 

I'm not buying what you are selling. No disrespect intended.

 

The difference is that the UCL is crucial for the throwing motion whereas the ACL is not crucial for standing in the pocket. I'm not a doctor but several players have played their entire careers without an ACL. I don't know of any QBs or pitchers who have played without a UCL and I don't think it's even possible.

 

[4merper4mer]

15 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

 

 

The way this season has been going with injuries it's hard to be optimistic. Please football gods be on Allen's side. 

We currently hold the number one seed and it’s hard to be optimistic?  Were you hoping for the zero seed through 8 games?  The negative 3 seed?

9 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

I hear Reich is available these days. 

The particle sun returns.

[K-9]

10 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? 

Whatever happened to those days when all we needed was a nice bubble bath and then curl up with a hot cup of Irish Mocha mint and a steamy Harlequin romance novel. 

[78thealltimegreat]

13 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? 

You should read read his comments in games when they don’t score in a quarter 

[Royale with Cheese]

11 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Kinda of like when Philip Rivers in Jan 2019 played with a torn ACL? 

 

This is Josh Allen we are talking about. The guy is beyond a beast. Adrenaline can mask pain for an instance like this. 

 

I'm not buying what you are selling. No disrespect intended.

Not my style. I will wait nervously for upcoming news. 

 

Come on.  

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Theres only one man who can save our season.

 

[ArtVandalay]

15 hours ago, Success said:

 

Every response to my comment has been the same.

 

The point is that good teams can still find a way to compete, whatever that is. We have a capable backup QB.  We won't be lost.

 

So we have an offensive weapon similar to Derrick Henry then?

 

I mean do you completely have zero recollection of the drought? With Keenum this team sinks.

[BuffaloBillies]

8 minutes ago, MPT said:

 

The difference is that the UCL is crucial for the throwing motion whereas the ACL is not crucial for standing in the pocket. I'm not a doctor but several players have played their entire careers without an ACL. I don't know of any QBs or pitchers who have played without a UCL and I don't think it's even possible.

 

 

Unless the injury got worse after the game, how do you explain a 70 yard pass AFTER the injury? It certainly seems "possible"

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Just now, BuffaloBillies said:

 

Unless the injury got worse after the game, how do you explain a 70 yard pass AFTER the injury? It certainly seems "possible"

The Hines pass ?

 

The pass was badly overthrown.  Perhaps Josh was over-compensating

 

A healthy Josh hits that and we win the game.

[Success]

2 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

So we have an offensive weapon similar to Derrick Henry then?

 

I mean do you completely have zero recollection of the drought? With Keenum this team sinks.

 

No, we certainly don't.  But the point is that teams adapt to other strengths that they have.  Tennessee found a way to be in the game for the full 60 against KC, even though they completed 5 passes.

 

We have much more talent than TN overall, and Keenum has led a team to the playoffs in his career.  He's not a scrub, and he doesn't stink.

 

Edited November 8, 2022 by Success

[BuffaloBillies]

Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

The Hines pass ?

 

The pass was badly overthrown.  Perhaps Josh was over-compensating

 

A healthy Josh hits that and we win the game.

 

No, the Gabe pass that hit him in the chest 70 yards away

[Jauronimo]

16 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Kinda of like when Philip Rivers in Jan 2019 played with a torn ACL? 

 

This is Josh Allen we are talking about. The guy is beyond a beast. Adrenaline can mask pain for an instance like this. 

 

I'm not buying what you are selling. No disrespect intended.

Not my style. I will wait nervously for upcoming news. 

Look at the bright side: if Keenum plays you'll get to watch some really exciting slug fests between backup level QBs over the next few weeks as we face off against Cousins, Brissett, and Goff!!  You love that crap.  

[Bobby Hooks]

2 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

So we have an offensive weapon similar to Derrick Henry then?

 

I mean do you completely have zero recollection of the drought? With Keenum this team sinks.

This team is in no way comparable to the drought teams. With that said, I’d rather not find out if Keenum can keep us afloat. 

[freddyjj]

9 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

The particle sun returns.

Lol must be voice to text! 😜

 

The Parable of the Prodigal Son (also known as the parable of the Two Brothers, Lost Son, Loving Father, or of the Forgiving Father) is one of the parables of Jesus Christ in the Bible, appearing in Luke 15:11–32

[Negan]

I feel like this is the like stadium renderings, well we're waiting again 

[ExiledInIllinois]

20 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

May as well draw a warm bath, get your copy of Sylvia Plath, pour some red wine and a bowl of sleeping pills and see what happens? 

I think she stuck her head in a oven. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

35 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

That was pure adrenaline he was on. That throw means little to nothing. 

I mean if your ucl is torn you’re gonna be in immense pain after that throw…maybe adrenaline gets you through the actual throwing of the ball part.  I didn’t see much if any evidence of that.  He also physically would not have been able to throw the ball that far…it’s not a question of pain tolerance.

 

 

 

Edited November 8, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[K-9]

1 minute ago, freddyjj said:

Lol must be voice to text! 😜

 

The Parable of the Prodigal Son (also known as the parable of the Two Brothers, Lost Son, Loving Father, or of the Forgiving Father) is one of the parables of Jesus Christ in the Bible, appearing in Luke 15:11–32

It’s not. It’s his low self of steam.

[Playoffs?]

I think Josh plays Sunday. A LOT of running and short screens and passes.  
 

Get some defensive players back on the field… win game. 

[B-Large]

9 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

So we have an offensive weapon similar to Derrick Henry then?

 

I mean do you completely have zero recollection of the drought? With Keenum this team sinks.

with Keenum, this team won’t get away with a lot of sloppy play or mistakes.   This is a talented roster that will have to tighten up their play if he starts….

 

but they don’t stink… 

Edited November 8, 2022 by B-Large

[Ralonzo]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

It’s not. It’s his low self of steam.

 

Posts like this are a French benefit of this forum.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

6 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Look at the bright side: if Keenum plays you'll get to watch some really exciting slug fests between backup level QBs over the next few weeks as we face off against Cousins, Brissett, and Goff!!  You love that crap.  

Cousins has been playing pretty good.

 

But you're right about Brissett and Goff

[Casey D]

1 minute ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Posts like this are a French benefit of this forum.

I love French benefits

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, B-Large said:

with Keenum, this team won’t get away with a lot of sloppy play or mistakes.   This is a talented roster that will have to tighten up their play if he starts….

 

but they don’t stink… 

We can win some of these games down the stretch with mostly defense if we get poyer/Milano/tre back.  The offense is going to struggle if the offensive line play doesn’t improve though no matter who the qb is 

[78thealltimegreat]

7 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

The Hines pass ?

 

The pass was badly overthrown.  Perhaps Josh was over-compensating

 

A healthy Josh hits that and we win the game.

Uh the pass to Davis for 70 yards hit him between the 1 and 3. Davis being a mediocre receiver isn’t Josh’s fault