JT O’Sullivan All-22 breakdown from Rams -Josh Allen is a Unicorn

[CorkScrewHill]

As always he does a great job. I am seeing Josh being called a unicorn and a creature a lot lately .. he calls Josh both.

 

 

Edited September 10, 2022 by CorkScrewHill

[ArtVandalay]

JT O'Sullivan... not Orlovsky.

[buffaloboyinATL]

24 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

JT O'Sullivan... not Orlovsky.

Lol. I was just looking at the picture thinking that’s not Orlovsky.  

[LeGOATski]

One of the keys to the Gabe Davis TD play is not to block downfield, right? If anyone blocks more than one yard downfield, it could be a penalty, if I'm not mistaken.

[UKBillFan]

On the INT, why didn’t he throw to the free guy on the 40? Just didn’t read the field quick enough, but very much in the moment.

Stunning game, otherwise.

 

[HankBulloughMellencamp]

*subscribed*

Excellent video breakdown of Josh's unique skill set by JT O'Sullivan, who had a cup of coffee or two in the league.

 

At the 9:22 mark (deep shot to Gabe Davis), on the all-22 view take note of how well Singletary does his 1/11...

GREAT job finding the pressure and saving Josh from taking a shot to the solar plexus upon releasing that one!

 

Go Bills!

[BuffaloBill]

I feel like I am am some adolescent sneaking off to watch porn …. I could watch that 50 times and not do anything but smile. 

[HankBulloughMellencamp]

3 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

On the INT, why didn’t he throw to the free guy on the 40? Just didn’t read the field quick enough, but very much in the moment.

Stunning game, otherwise.

 

probably his next read, but 17 obviously thought he had Crowder, who probably could have done a better job of not giving the DB a chance to make the play by boxing him out as the ball arrives

6 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

I feel like I am am some adolescent sneaking off to watch porn …. I could watch that 50 times and not do anything but smile. 

 

porn isn't usually this good... I never lost interest!

[UKBillFan]

The final play shown, the long touchdown to Diggs - Josh’s feet are not planted at point of release. He basically had very little support from his leg muscles; he was reliant on his arm and shoulder strength to get it that far.

 

I shouldn’t be shocked yet still am.

[aceman_16]

48 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

One of the keys to the Gabe Davis TD play is not to block downfield, right? If anyone blocks more than one yard downfield, it could be a penalty, if I'm not mistaken.

By linemen

[SoCal Deek]

I was at the game and for the first time in a long time sat about midway up in the end zone…where you can really see the field, and each play as it develops. The thing I noticed more than anything is that Josh was under very little pressure all night long. That was even made less of an issue when he was getting the ball out so quickly. I’d swear that on virtually every pass play he had his pick of open receivers to throw to. The short inside routes were like shooting fish in a barrel and just to keep the defense honest he’d fire a cannon shot on an outside route now and again. It looked like a video game. 

[78thealltimegreat]

JT always does a great job like here but Dan is a little to dramatic 

[nkreed]

I like O'Sullivan's notice of the cancelled throw to Crowder on Allen's TD. It was assumed to be a pump fake, but it wasn't. If Josh threw the ball like he was going to, that was going to be intercepted and possibly a pick 6.

 

Also I saw McKenzie's speed on the Diggs TD made him wide open. He stopped his route at the sticks and had a massive amount of space because the DBs back was to him. 

Edited September 10, 2022 by nkreed

[Cray51]

26 minutes ago, HankBulloughMellencamp said:

 

probably his next read, but 17 obviously thought he had Crowder, who probably could have done a better job of not giving the DB a chance to make the play by boxing him out as the ball arrives

I think both Allen and Crowder could have done better.  Allen forced the pass, and Crowder slowed down at the end of his route and allowed the coverage to catch up

[dollars 2 donuts]

 

You think Orlofsky is good, check out above George Bush’s take on the game.

 

 

[BuffaloBill]

36 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

You think Orlofsky is good, check out above George Bush’s take on the game.

 

 

 

This deserve’s it’s own thread.  King’s comments about that drive where the Bills were very deep on the Rams end are spot on.  Definitely a “game within the game” observation that is outstanding.  

[Big Turk]

I find it hilarious that other star players are enamored with Allen, other media people who have played in the NFL are enamored with Allen, the media in general is enamored with Allen, and then other teams message boards are like "I don't think he's that good." 

 

Hahahahaha.

 

Keep believing that.

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

This deserve’s it’s own thread.  King’s comments about that drive where the Bills were very deep on the Rams end are spot on.  Definitely a “game within the game” observation that is outstanding.  

 

We already know Allen plays his best when the lights are the brightest...

 

Look at what he did in the playoffs last year. Look at the destruction of teams during prime time games for the most part.

[78thealltimegreat]

48 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

I think both Allen and Crowder could have done better.  Allen forced the pass, and Crowder slowed down at the end of his route and allowed the coverage to catch up

In Crowders defense he has been playing with Jets QBs and not Josh Allen  little different level of arm strength 

[Shaw66]

3 hours ago, HankBulloughMellencamp said:

*subscribed*

Excellent video breakdown of Josh's unique skill set by JT O'Sullivan, who had a cup of coffee or two in the league.

 

At the 9:22 mark (deep shot to Gabe Davis), on the all-22 view take note of how well Singletary does his 1/11...

GREAT job finding the pressure and saving Josh from taking a shot to the solar plexus upon releasing that one!

 

Go Bills!

Yeah, I remember noticing that block live.   I mean, man, the toughness of those guys.   He knew his assignment, saw the free runner, and stuck himself in there with power.   

 

It's interesting that when you're talking about winning your individual battle, for the defense a win is beating your man, but on offense winning is just getting a standoff.  You don't have to pancake anyone, just stop what he's doing for a second or two.  So, Motor had a clear win there, even though by the time Josh threw it the rusher had overpowered Singletary.  Doesn't matter; he gave Josh all the time he needed.   

 

Supreme toughness. 

Edited September 10, 2022 by Shaw66

[Nextmanup]

One of my favorite moments is the back shoulder throw to Diggs.

LOS = 28 yard line.

 

Josh throws the ball when Diggs is barely 2 yards downfield at the 30.

He catches the ball around the 38 yard line.

 

Just perfect and fast timing and placement.  

[Shaw66]

12 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

One of my favorite moments is the back shoulder throw to Diggs.

LOS = 28 yard line.

 

Josh throws the ball when Diggs is barely 2 yards downfield at the 30.

He catches the ball around the 38 yard line.

 

Just perfect and fast timing and placement.  

Yes.  This guy stopped me and made me appreciate that throw.   Ramsey in perfect coverage and it simply didn't matter.   Perfection.

[Ralonzo]

4 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Yes.  This guy stopped me and made me appreciate that throw.   Ramsey in perfect coverage and it simply didn't matter.   Perfection.

 

The metaphorical cherry on top was Ramsey literally falling on his face.

[Solomon Grundy]

3 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

JT O'Sullivan... not Orlovsky.

Title change??? 

[TPS]

While it's only a few highlights, I was trying to focus on the O-line on most plays.  The weakest link was Bates in pass-pro.  Also, Brown looked good.

[Clark Rotary]

My favorite comments

Just after the stiff-arm, talking about the other Rams db: "Look at #19, doesn't even want to help his teammate up." implying that he doesn't want to be associated with what just happened. 

Also, after the Diggs TD: "Rough day to be a db".   

[Doc]

2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

One of the keys to the Gabe Davis TD play is not to block downfield, right? If anyone blocks more than one yard downfield, it could be a penalty, if I'm not mistaken.

 

The key is to make it look like they're blocking for the run.  So in essence, yes, you don't want to be blocking downfield. 

[eball]

Glad I watched that…it even made me feel better about Josh’s “bad” interception.  Not nearly the bad throw I thought it was seeing it live.  The throw was a touch behind but Crowder didn’t help him out either.  Good play by the DB.

 

[Scott7975]

Little shout out to Singletary hitting some key blocks that allowed some of these plays to happen.

Edited September 10, 2022 by Scott7975

[Beck Water]

5 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said:

As always he does a great job. I am seeing Josh being called a unicorn and a creature a lot lately .. he calls Josh both.

 

 

 

Great find.

 

I thought it was interesting that he comments Josh's INT to Crowder was "behind him".  You can clearly see the ball leading Crowder as it's released, so I guess what he means is that it's not leading him "enough" and Crowder has to slow down to catch it.  So that may be an adjustment thing, where Crowder's preseason playing time was limited and Josh is mentally more used to the slower Beasley.

 

Superficially I thought Josh could have thrown an arc (or maybe taken a step R and thrown) over the pile of defenders to Knox, who had miles of grass around him.   I "get it" it's a dangerous business throwing over your OL/DL, if one of your OLmen lets a defender elevate or disengage that could be a deflection and a pick.  I wondered if Knox could have made himself "QB Friendly" and come back to get Josh a better throwing lane.  It was  1st and 10, so if Knox even picks up 4-5 yds it's a positive play.

 

He's really impressed with Josh switching hands to stiff arm the DB, but Josh is back to holding the ball in his hand as he runs like a Seaworld keeper waving a chunk of tuna over the Orca tank.  Someone needs to get on Josh's ass about tucking the ball away when he runs.

 

I thought he did a good job of pointing out places where the Rams DBs were out of position pre-snap or not playing correctly.  How much zone do they normally play, anyone know?

Edited September 10, 2022 by Beck Water

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

One of the keys to the Gabe Davis TD play is not to block downfield, right? If anyone blocks more than one yard downfield, it could be a penalty, if I'm not mistaken.

 

I think it's if there's an ineligible receiver (ie, OLman) more than 1 yd downfield without being engaged in blocking an opponent at the time the ball is thrown.  So that's a tricky penalty because the OLman can be more than a yard downfield blocking, but if the opponent is savvy and disengages just before or just as the pass is thrown then it's a penalty.

 

Practically speaking, that means it's better to stay within 1 yd of the LOS

 

Bills got called for ineligible receiver downfield a few times last season IIRC.  It's especially hard for the line on RPOs.

[TPS]

The real Dan...

 

 

[Captain Hindsight]

3 hours ago, HankBulloughMellencamp said:

 

 

porn isn't usually this good... I never lost interest!

I didn’t even fast forward 

[boyst]

Anyone else count the holds and penalties we got away with Thursday?  Kind of funny that we are a team who gets to get away with it. 

[HappyDays]

3 hours ago, Cray51 said:

I think both Allen and Crowder could have done better.  Allen forced the pass, and Crowder slowed down at the end of his route and allowed the coverage to catch up

 

It looks like an option route where Crowder is supposed to sit in zone or keep moving in man. He kind of does both. Slows down and squares up but keeps slowly drifting towards the sideline instead of coming back to the ball. And give credit to the DB for making a great play on the ball. I put this play on Crowder more than Allen, but ultimately it's a timing and feel play between two new teammates that are working out some kinks at the beginning of the season. The chemistry will come with more reps. Crowder will learn what Allen likes and vice versa. In a few weeks they'll run the same play and it will be a big completion.

[Freddie's Dead]

Oh my goodness!  The violence....

[Reks Ryan]

3 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

In Crowders defense he has been playing with Jets QBs and not Josh Allen  little different level of arm strength 

But he does have experience making tackles after INTs.  So he did a good job bringing down the DB.

[mannc]

My god, that back shoulder throw to Diggs was a work of art, by both guys.

[Logic]

Here's a hot take: I think Josh Allen is going to go down in NFL history as the most dangerous, unstoppable red zone QB of all time. I already think he's the best red zone rushing threat of all time from the quarterback position.

He's 33 rushing TDs away from being the Bills' all time leader. That means he's statistically more likely than not to end his career as the Bills' all time leader in touchdown rushes, ahead of two Hall of Fame running backs!! Just ridiculous.

If you're a defensive coordinator against Josh Allen in the red zone, what do you do? How do you defend him? You just kind of...CAN'T.

"Unicorn" is right. "Creature" is right. "One of one" is right. He's special.

[Ralonzo]

9 minutes ago, Logic said:

Here's a hot take: I think Josh Allen is going to go down in NFL history as the most dangerous, unstoppable red zone QB of all time. I already think he's the best red zone rushing threat of all time from the quarterback position.

He's 33 rushing TDs away from being the Bills' all time leader. That means he's statistically more likely than not to end his career as the Bills' all time leader in touchdown rushes, ahead of two Hall of Fame running backs!! Just ridiculous.

If you're a defensive coordinator against Josh Allen in the red zone, what do you do? How do you defend him? You just kind of...CAN'T.

"Unicorn" is right. "Creature" is right. "One of one" is right. He's special.

 

Well there's the rub. He can pass it. He can run it. He can look like he's running it and then pass it. He can look like he's passing it and then run it. Or he can hand it off and go run a route and catch it.

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Well there's the rub. He can pass it. He can run it. He can look like he's running it and then pass it. He can look like he's passing it and then run it. Or he can hand it off and go run a route and catch it.

He can throw an accurate 60 yard pass on the run, without being set, and while on his tippy toes!