McKenzie hurt

[badassgixxer05]

Hes a little guy. Im sure hes going to be hurting a ton by the end of the season. Which is why we have good depth there. No worries. Heal up lil Dirty!

[Forlorn hope]

Shakir reminds me so much of a young Andre Reed. Great yac, tough, lives over the middle and great explosion 1st 10 yards

[Matt_In_NH]

On 8/27/2022 at 9:31 PM, julian said:

Imagine a McKenzie injury thread only be 1 page long lol, guess everyone is a little preoccupied 

The best part is we have not had to withstand hearing about Blackshear....there will be backlash when the cuts are announced but that cannot really be avoided.

[julian]

2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

The best part is we have not had to withstand hearing about Blackshear....there will be backlash when the cuts are announced but that cannot really be avoided.

Very true

[YoloinOhio]

 

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Crowder is good.  Would be awful for McKenzie to have such a strong preseason, only to sit Week One and potentially watch Crowder play great and risk losing the starting role he won. 

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo619 said:

Get Bease on the phone. 

More likely to reach him via Twitter 

[Airseven]

This shows the value of a vet signing like Crowder. No pressure for McKenzie to go week 1.

[Bruffalo]

2 hours ago, Bandito said:

Bease spews

Yes.

2 hours ago, Bandito said:

truth on there. He is the man. Good luck to him as he moves on.

Oh no.

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

 

Crowder is good.  Would be awful for McKenzie to have such a strong preseason, only to sit Week One and potentially watch Crowder play great and risk losing the starting role he won. 

I was looking over the roster and was shocked to see Crowder listed to be as small as they report. I always thought he was taller. Go figure.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

 

Crowder is good.  Would be awful for McKenzie to have such a strong preseason, only to sit Week One and potentially watch Crowder play great and risk losing the starting role he won. 

I think the plan was to keep the McKenzie/Beasley rotation only substitute Crowder in.

 

I think if both were completely healthy they would continue with that rotation.

[H2o]

2 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

Get Bease on the phone. 

Beasley is done in Buffalo. Between the situations last year and his comments, that's a negative. We'll be fine without McKenzie against LA if that's the way things pan out. It means a Crowder and Shakir rotation, which I am fine with at this point. 

[Royale with Cheese]

2 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

Get Bease on the phone. 

 

We have enough slot WR. 

[Solomon Grundy]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

 

Crowder is good.  Would be awful for McKenzie to have such a strong preseason, only to sit Week One and potentially watch Crowder play great and risk losing the starting role he won. 

Or the emergence of Shakir in the slot position

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

No need to give the Rams any certainty on that until you have to.

[Forlorn hope]

3 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

Get Bease on the phone. 

For what. McKenzie probably plays and if not you have 

 

Crowder, Shakir 

 

You can call up Hodgins, Austin.

 

Or you just split cook more out wide. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, Forlorn hope said:

For what. McKenzie probably plays and if not you have 

 

Crowder, Shakir 

 

You can call up Hodgins, Austin.

 

Or you just split cook more out wide. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe he has an offer on his house?

[RoyBatty is alive]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

I was looking over the roster and was shocked to see Crowder listed to be as small as they report. I always thought he was taller. Go figure.

He size help create that INT he missed on that high pass in preseason.

[ColoradoBills]

Smokescreen.  Lil Dirty with 8 catches.

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, SCBills said:

Crowder is good.  Would be awful for McKenzie to have such a strong preseason, only to sit Week One and potentially watch Crowder play great and risk losing the starting role he won. 

 

I'm sure that's why McKenzie is gonna push to play.  He's used to being the guy at the bottom of the roster scrapping for a job.  He doesn't want to lose his.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

11 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

Get Bease on the phone. 

 

Yeah right... no thanks, Bruuuuce says 🖕

[Richard Noggin]

My question is then: do the Rams play a more zone or man-heavy coverage scheme?

 

I know Ramsey is a beast in press man. But do they sprinkle in a healthy mix around that?

 

We all know McKenzie has flashed primarily against man coverage (Patriots and Dolphins). Crowder is presumably pretty well versed beating zones?

[cba fan]

On 8/27/2022 at 6:13 PM, Big Blitz said:

OBJ will be on this team

 

Team could use a re focusing anyway from this ***t show the last 48 hours.  

 

 

See you on the field in December OBJ!

great then he can party with McKenzie on the IL. Or PUP

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

5 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

My question is then: do the Rams play a more zone or man-heavy coverage scheme?

 

I know Ramsey is a beast in press man. But do they sprinkle in a healthy mix around that?

 

We all know McKenzie has flashed primarily against man coverage (Patriots and Dolphins). Crowder is presumably pretty well versed beating zones?

Raheem Morris is their DC and goes back to the Tampa 2 in Tampa and worked under Quinn in Atlanta so probably safe to assume they play a lot of zone. 

[Doc Brown]

8 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

My question is then: do the Rams play a more zone or man-heavy coverage scheme?

 

I know Ramsey is a beast in press man. But do they sprinkle in a healthy mix around that?

 

We all know McKenzie has flashed primarily against man coverage (Patriots and Dolphins). Crowder is presumably pretty well versed beating zones?

Rams defense last year under Morris largely resembled the one the Bills played in 2020 under Staley.  Heavy zone with a cover 2 shell.  They played zone coverage the 2nd most in the NFL last year (68%) and man coverage the least (14%).  Theoretically, Crowder will be an important piece of our game plan

 

 

[Forlorn hope]

2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

My question is then: do the Rams play a more zone or man-heavy coverage scheme?

 

I know Ramsey is a beast in press man. But do they sprinkle in a healthy mix around that?

 

We all know McKenzie has flashed primarily against man coverage (Patriots and Dolphins). Crowder is presumably pretty well versed beating zones?

Ramsey will be man to man on Davis. They will double diggs is my guess

[Tipster19]

37 minutes ago, Forlorn hope said:

Ramsey will be man to man on Davis. They will double diggs is my guess

I hope not, I want Diggs to go one on one with him and hand him his lunch. Don’t think Josh has forgotten and I’m pretty sure Diggs would love to help his buddy #17 out in punishing the Ram Ham Jalen Ramsey for all the trash talking he did about Josh a few years back.

[Forlorn hope]

48 minutes ago, Tipster19 said:

I hope not, I want Diggs to go one on one with him and hand him his lunch. Don’t think Josh has forgotten and I’m pretty sure Diggs would love to help his buddy #17 out in punishing the Ram Ham Jalen Ramsey for all the trash talking he did about Josh a few years back.

The goal will be the illusion of power sets ( two tes, fb etc,) but in reality with diggs, Davis, Knox , cook, Gilliam, you create a 5 wide threat. You then can find the mismatch and strike. It's a big reason they drafted cook who is a kamara/ marshall faulk type. 

 

Then once they go nickel, two high, then you just go back to power and two tes/fb with Knox/ Gilliam and cook running. 

[machine gun kelly]

6 hours ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

Raheem Morris is their DC and goes back to the Tampa 2 in Tampa and worked under Quinn in Atlanta so probably safe to assume they play a lot of zone. 

Nailed it as Morris is a zone guy.  If memory serves didn’t Diggs torch Ramsey a couple of times in the Bills/Rams game in 2020.  The announcers kept making so much of Ramsey and then Diggs just torches him in the end zone.

[eball]

I tell ya, with Li’l Dirty’s status up in the air it sure is nice to have a vet like Crowder available to step in.

 

[LeGOATski]

17 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Nailed it as Morris is a zone guy.  If memory serves didn’t Diggs torch Ramsey a couple of times in the Bills/Rams game in 2020.  The announcers kept making so much of Ramsey and then Diggs just torches him in the end zone.

Diggs only had 49 yards, but added the TD. He certainly did his job. Cole and Davis had the bigger games, yardage-wise.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 hours ago, Forlorn hope said:

The goal will be the illusion of power sets ( two tes, fb etc,) but in reality with diggs, Davis, Knox , cook, Gilliam, you create a 5 wide threat. You then can find the mismatch and strike. It's a big reason they drafted cook who is a kamara/ marshall faulk type. 

 

Then once they go nickel, two high, then you just go back to power and two tes/fb with Knox/ Gilliam and cook running. 

Gilliam is part of a 5 wide alignment??

[TPS]

5 hours ago, Forlorn hope said:

The goal will be the illusion of power sets ( two tes, fb etc,) but in reality with diggs, Davis, Knox , cook, Gilliam, you create a 5 wide threat. You then can find the mismatch and strike. It's a big reason they drafted cook who is a kamara/ marshall faulk type. 

 

Then once they go nickel, two high, then you just go back to power and two tes/fb with Knox/ Gilliam and cook running. 

Yes, it looks like they are grooming Morris for Gilliam's role too.  While he's the better receiver, Gilliam is the better blocker.

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Gilliam is part of a 5 wide alignment??

Yes, in the match-up he's describing--what looks like a run set can go into a 5-wide with that personnel.  All about creating mismatches.

[The Jokeman]

On 8/27/2022 at 6:47 PM, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

If he's hurt I'm going to start pounding the table for cole Beasley!!

Pound all you want, Beasley isn't coming back. 

[Beck Water]

9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

My question is then: do the Rams play a more zone or man-heavy coverage scheme?

 

I know Ramsey is a beast in press man. But do they sprinkle in a healthy mix around that?

 

We all know McKenzie has flashed primarily against man coverage (Patriots and Dolphins). Crowder is presumably pretty well versed beating zones?

 

The Bills don't write McKenzie in as the primary slot receiver if they don't think he can succeed against zone now.  McKenzie has by all accounts been having a great camp, and the Bills have been playing a lot of zone in camp.

[mjt328]

Did we ever get clarification on what McKenzie's injury actually is?

 

There was a small note about him "limping" out of practice about a week ago, and a small follow-up saying it looked minor.  They never said if it was a knee, ankle, foot, hamstring, groin, etc.  The lack of attention made me think he was perfectly fine.

 

Now it sounds iffy on whether he will play Thursday.  As one of our starters, I would think this would be bigger news.

 

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Nailed it as Morris is a zone guy.  If memory serves didn’t Diggs torch Ramsey a couple of times in the Bills/Rams game in 2020.  The announcers kept making so much of Ramsey and then Diggs just torches him in the end zone.

Yeah that was a sweet rep by Diggs, short touchdown. That was a wild game I think the Bills went up 28-3 and the Rams came all the way back before we won.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

Yeah that was a sweet rep by Diggs, short touchdown. That was a wild game I think the Bills went up 28-3 and the Rams came all the way back before we won.

Here's hoping they don't spot them an INT thus time.

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

Did we ever get clarification on what McKenzie's injury actually is?

 

There was a small note about him "limping" out of practice about a week ago, and a small follow-up saying it looked minor.  They never said if it was a knee, ankle, foot, hamstring, groin, etc.  The lack of attention made me think he was perfectly fine.

 

Now it sounds iffy on whether he will play Thursday.  As one of our starters, I would think this would be bigger news.

 

Could also be the Bills not showing their hand.  McKenzie and Crowder are very different players.   Of course, the Rams will plan for both as both should get reps, but no need to give them a heads up right now. 

[Forlorn hope]

2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Gilliam is part of a 5 wide alignment??

Yes. Gilliam is typically a fb. But can be a te, or hb, or rb, or a wr. Him and more so Knox can create every look.