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Patriots' offense is a disaster per The Athletic's beat reporter


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3 minutes ago, Process said:

I think people are underestimating how bad the Patriots are going to be this year. They probably have the least amount of top level talent in the entire league. 

 

What elite players do they have?


The wheels came off in the playoff game, and they lost the lug nuts, the wheels are in the ditch, and the rims are bent.

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I wouldn't be shocked if the Pats finish last in the division. The Dolphins are definitely better even with Tua. The Jets (on paper) are much improved. Of course we will see if that carries over to the actual games. Also need to see if Wilson improves.

 

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11 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

It sounds like things are bad in Beantown.  Sure hate to hear that... 

 

The Athletic's Chad Graff writes "the point of concern is nearing" for the Patriots offense after it has struggled badly throughout training camp.

"The running game struggled," Graff writes. "The receivers didn’t get open. The incompletions mounted." And the quarterbacks have been under constant pressure. With longtime OC Josh McDaniels gone, coach Bill Belichick has handed offensive coaching duties to ex-DC Matt Patricia and former special teams coach Joe Judge. Patricia is coaching the offensive line and calling the plays while Judge is handling Mac Jones and the quarterbacks. Just an utter nightmare. It's a big concern for Jones' development. This offense is completely devoid of playmakers, and the coaching sounds even worse.

 

https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/football/nfl/player/62961/mac-jones

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Overall, the Pats are real short on team speed, athleticism and high end talent at the skill positions.

 

That will only take you so far, and you can only play so much ground & pound in today's NFL

 

Satan 2.0 will find ways to beat the garbage teams but they just don't have the horses to hold up against teams that can consistently score 24+ PPG

 

Pats 2022 6-11

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46 minutes ago, Process said:

I think people are underestimating how bad the Patriots are going to be this year. They probably have the least amount of top level talent in the entire league. 

 

What elite players do they have?

I think there may be a baseline level of terribleness that they may not reach, just because Belichick is so good at a scheming a defense that that side of the ball will probably still be decent. But who knows maybe the wheels will completely come off.

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9 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I think there may be a baseline level of terribleness that they may not reach, just because Belichick is so good at a scheming a defense that that side of the ball will probably still be decent. But who knows maybe the wheels will completely come off.

Sort of like how his defense kept the Bills offense to the first perfect game in NFL history. Bottom line if you don’t have the players it doesn’t matter who the coach is.

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55 minutes ago, mushypeaches said:

Overall, the Pats are real short on team speed, athleticism and high end talent at the skill positions.

 

That will only take you so far, and you can only play so much ground & pound in today's NFL

 

Satan 2.0 will find ways to beat the garbage teams but they just don't have the horses to hold up against teams that can consistently score 24+ PPG

 

Pats 2022 6-11

But its not for lack of spending...

 

 

These figures include Tight Ends

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2 minutes ago, MJS said:

They'll figure some things out and win some games. They always do. The defense will be competitive, at least.

 

But they are a mediocre team for sure.

 

They'll win a few games, and hopefully enough to knock them out of position to get a difference-maker at QB.  But I'm hoping they stick with Macorkle for awhile.

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4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Did you watch the last two games against the Bills? That D got worse.

The Bills were way more talented than them and wanted to make a statement after the earlier loss to them.

 

But Bill Belichick always gets the defense to a good place. Doesn't mean they will be competitive against the Bills, but they will be competitive at least generally. And they'll figure out a few things that work on offense. They are still well coached.

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12 minutes ago, MJS said:

The Bills were way more talented than them and wanted to make a statement after the earlier loss to them.

 

But Bill Belichick always gets the defense to a good place. Doesn't mean they will be competitive against the Bills, but they will be competitive at least generally. And they'll figure out a few things that work on offense. They are still well coached.

 

That offense might be worst in the NFL caliber this year...

 

Seems they are going to try and win games 17-13.

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2 hours ago, ddaryl said:


The wheels came off in the playoff game, and they lost the lug nuts, the wheels are in the ditch, and the rims are bent.

 

Plus Belichick isn't the type of coach that inspires guys when things are going off the rails. Observe guys like Judon as they started to realize that the smoke and mirrors can't hide the truth. Easy to quit on that type of guy, it's his type of attitude that everyone rails on when it fails with guys like Chip Kelly & Urban Meyer.

42 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Need a new zero RB draft darling 

 

James forgot the "I'd stay but I like winning" line.

55 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

People blow some of these reports out of proportion.  I hate the Pats too and I hope they suck bad...but they are changing a lot and anything that happens at practice is forgotten about once real games start.  They have not even played a preseason game.

They do have Patriots forums ya know.

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4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yep. I do. I also recognise some of the same people who were in the "wait and see" camp then on the Bills are now in the "they're a tire fire" camp now on the Patriots. The Bills were bad when their practices suggested they would be bad. The Patriots will be bad this year. I think they will finish 4th in the AFCE and a top 5 draft pick is not out of the question. 

 

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5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Nor do I. I have bold predicted the Jets for 2nd place... but if there is a team other than the Bills that wins 10 it will be Miami. I just don't trust them. 

I think Miami could really surprise and push the Bills this year.  That's a nice roster they've built down there.  It really all comes down to McDaniel and Tua (obviously).

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Through 3 games against the bills, Mac showed NOTHING to give us fans any concern. I’ve never seen someone just roll over and accept defeat like Bill did in the playoffs. Once Hyde got that interception, they called nothing to give Mac a chance to get back in the game. 

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4 hours ago, MJS said:

The Bills were way more talented than them and wanted to make a statement after the earlier loss to them.

 

But Bill Belichick always gets the defense to a good place. Doesn't mean they will be competitive against the Bills, but they will be competitive at least generally. And they'll figure out a few things that work on offense. They are still well coached.

 

Are they still "well coached"?

 

Because, you know, the supposed best HC in NFL history has coached over 150 games without Tom Brady as his QB and he is sub .500 in those 150 plus games.

 

Just like Phil Jackson was a genius when he had Michael Jordan on his roster, though Phil had a much better winning percentage without the best of all-time on his roster.

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