Greg S Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: None of these players deserves to be on the WoF. Great guys and very good players but the WoF is for the great ones that were standout players in the AFL/NFL during their era of play. Speaking of great players I wonder if the Bills will get around to retiring 83. 12,34, and 78 are retired. To me they were the core of 4 from those 90's teams 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 39 minutes ago, Rico said: No one from the Drought Era please. Butch Byrd, absolutely. I think there are three players from the drought era that are Wall of Fame worthy: Kyle Williams, Fred Jackson, and Brian Moorman. I think they fill the Bill with: talent, stats, longevity with the team, leadership, heart & soul players, popularity with fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 59 minutes ago, Rico said: No one from the Drought Era please. Butch Byrd, absolutely. LOVE Fitz, but no. Butch Byrd, yes, yes, yes. What say you about Bobby Chandler, Reggie McKenzie? We really have done it right if you look …. https://www.buffalobills.com/team/alumni/wall-of-fame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 50 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said: geez, I never knew this !! He went to harvard😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I'm sure a lot can identify with this. The answer is no probably not, but if I was given a vote on the real decision I'd vote yes. One route i could see, is broadcasting after retirement. Would be really cool to have Wood and Fitzy in the booth together. In a way I'd rather have Fitz calling national games on CBS because I don't listen to Bills games on the radio (g2 watch em). If Wood and Fitzy had a long career calling games though (which I don't think is crazy outlandish) I could see it happening down the road. Excited to see what the future holds for him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: If Ryan Fitzpatrick goes on the Wall then so does Mitch Morse If Morse goes up so does Lee Smith. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Just now, nucci said: He went to harvard😀 yeah, I think I heard that once or twice during a game ....😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: If Morse goes up so does Lee Smith. Not before Scott Chandler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Just now, GoBills808 said: Not before Scott Chandler! Fine, Chandler can go but not before David Nelson. Donald Jones makes it over my dead body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Fine, Chandler can go but not before David Nelson. Donald Jones makes it over my dead body. Yeah if Donald Jones makes it in before Ruvell Martin I’m going to be furious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) Terrence McGee should be in over Fitzpatrick, and McGee shouldn't be on the Wall. Edited June 2, 2022 by delirious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: Sure, his career in Buffalo wasn't very long, and he will never be associated with only one team... But can you think of a more popular Buffalo Bill ever? Seriously? Its the wall of "fame". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: So Fitz doesn't play a significant role in the team's history, at least for you. Correct? No. Not significant in any way. He is a very likable guy and a very mediocre player with a 20-33 record with the Bills. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) For Christ sake no. Like the guy but hell no. There are several others that belong on the wall that are not My top 6 in order would be: 1. Byrd 1a.Schobel 2. Reuben Brown 3. Moulds 4. Jackson 5. K. Williams There are a number of guys that like Fitz were fan favorites but did not do enough while here in Buffalo to deserve being on the well Spikes Spielman Shady Fletcher S. Johnson Then there are a group of players that the fans dislike or left the team too soon that had far better careers in Buffalo than Fitz Dareus Evans Peters Winfield P. Williams Wolford Edited June 2, 2022 by Ethan in Portland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, Neo said: LOVE Fitz, but no. Butch Byrd, yes, yes, yes. What say you about Bobby Chandler, Reggie McKenzie? We really have done it right if you look …. https://www.buffalobills.com/team/alumni/wall-of-fame As a kid, I always liked Reggie more than Joe D, so absolutely. I have no problem with him or Chandler being honored. Too late now, but I would’ve instead had a plaque for Kalsu. Great American but he was hardly a Bill, only playing 14 games & starting 9 for a 1-win team…. not like Pat Tillman who played with the Cardinals for years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, IronMaidenBills said: While I agree Fitz and Fredex don’t deserve the wall for purely skill alone, they were the only players to given 110% on the field. The fact that they are as passionate as ever to this day about Bills fandom, tells you everything there is to know. Fitz bleeds blue and is a tough sob. He’s highly educated and everything you would want to represent a franchise. We should be able to at least name an area of the building after him. Fred Jackson is 3rd all time rushing leader for the Bills. Ahead of Shady, Cribbs, Henry, Gilchrist, and several other notable names. Yes his career totals are less than half of Thurman and Simpson but he was still an excellent player. Fitz is fifth all time and has already been passed by Josh. He is fifth only because of the truly putrid list of names below him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Fred Jackson is 3rd all time rushing leader for the Bills. Ahead of Shady, Cribbs, Henry, Gilchrist, and several other notable names. Yes his career totals are less than half of Thurman and Simpson but he was still an excellent player. Fitz is fifth all time and has already been passed by Josh. He is fifth only because of the truly putrid list of names below him. It’s pretty sad at how bad our franchise has sucked at sucking. At least we aren’t forever 7-9 anymore. Edited June 2, 2022 by IronMaidenBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: Sure, his career in Buffalo wasn't very long, and he will never be associated with only one team... But can you think of a more popular Buffalo Bill ever? Come on man... when Fitz was here he wasn't popular for the best reasons. It wasn't till after he left his popularity grew more positive. Edited June 2, 2022 by TBBills 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: Sure, his career in Buffalo wasn't very long, and he will never be associated with only one team... But can you think of a more popular Buffalo Bill ever? This has to be a troll post. Was it even thought out before posting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: I would suggest Fitz is as popular as any of those names. He gets top score for that; others do too, but no one is "more loved" IMO. What is your standard for appearing on the Wall? You say not even close. Why? Some standards: 1. Actually being good-we can stop right there with Fitz. Love the guy, but he was an average NFL QB 2. Wall of Fame is NOT a popularity contest. You need to be one of the best Buffalo Bills in team history-borderline HoF if not HoF 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I feel like Ryan Fitzpatrick is my favorite NFL player of all time. Not exaggerating. But no ... not Wall of Fame worthy. He was a middle-of-the-road QB on horrible Bills teams. Love the guy and I'd be all for an annual Ryan Fitzpatrick Day. But not the Wall. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 An emotional answer is yes. A rational answer is no. He played for the Bills for 4 seasons. He didn't even start 16 games for two of those seasons. He never took us to the playoffs. He was never a top 10 player at his position. Just because you like a player doesn't mean he should be honored as an all-time great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Not before Scott Chandler! There better be a shovel next to his name up there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I’d replace OJ with Fitzmagic any day on the Bills Wall of Fame! Get it done Kim Pegula 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 NO, but his picture should be up in a hallway at OBD someplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Jesus, what is with the obsession with this guy? I like Fitz. Cool dude and all, but he holds no records, zero accolades, never finished in the top half of the league (while with the Bills) in any major statistical QB metric, and never led us to a single winning season. There's probably 20 guys that belong up there before Fitz (Moulds, Ruben Brown, Fred Jackson, etc.). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Absolutely No. In his 4 years as a Bill he had a 79 QB rating. If you want to let him lead a charge before kickoff or give him some plaque at halftime, fine. Yes he's a fan favorite and his appearance last January in the Cheatriot rout was epic, but he's never going on the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 49 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Yeah if Donald Jones makes it in before Ruvell Martin I’m going to be furious If either guy goes up there before Naaman Roosevelt, the Bills are officially dead to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris12 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Greg S said: Kyle and Fred should be on it. Fitz probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 I say: YES. He represents the "Drought Years"... The best from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: If Morse goes up so does Lee Smith. Riemersma for the win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Sure, his career in Buffalo wasn't very long, and he will never be associated with only one team... But can you think of a more popular Buffalo Bill ever? Sometimes I don't know if this stuff is serious or not but yes I can think of at least 50 more popular (and accomplished) players. Fitz was a likeable guy, I get it. But he had no business being here as the starter for as long as he was nor should he have ever gotten a big contract extension here. He's not a HOF player and doesn't not deserve individual franchise recognition here. At the end of the day fans need to stop with obsessions over players like this. It's as bad or worse as the obsession over a freaking punter (Brian Moorman) which shows just how bad things were with this franchise during the drought years that players like this get a whiff of attention. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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without a drought Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: his overall career would have been good enough but he didn't play long enough in Buffalo imo It would still be a no. imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 A backup QB? This is a joke, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikuman Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Nope, but he deserves to retire as a Bill if he want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 No. No. No. Hopefully they name one of the bars at the new stadium after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Sure, his career in Buffalo wasn't very long, and he will never be associated with only one team... But can you think of a more popular Buffalo Bill ever? So Kyle Williams and Eric Wood, Fredex are not in the wall and a guy who is the popular backup as a journeyman should be considered on the Wall? C’mon, we sentimentalize a guy who was 4-4, 4-9, 6-10, and 6-10. That’s Wall of Fame criteria? Hoping he would he would go one more ride as a backup for us, that’s cool. Do you guys not accurately remember how bad those teams were the previous regimes. He’s being way over romanticized. Edited June 2, 2022 by machine gun kelly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheBrownBear said: Jesus, what is with the obsession with this guy? I like Fitz. Cool dude and all, but he holds no records, zero accolades, never finished in the top half of the league (while with the Bills) in any major statistical QB metric, and never led us to a single winning season. There's probably 20 guys that belong up there before Fitz (Moulds, Ruben Brown, Fred Jackson, etc.). Agree. I don't want to say he was bad after he signed that $59 million contract but imo he definitely didn't live up to it at the time. I recall a lot of his stats in that 2012 season came in garbage time. He was nicknamed Picks-Patrick for a reason. That being said the Oakland and NE game winning drives in 2011 still are some of my favorite memories as a Bill fan. Edited June 2, 2022 by Another Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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