Kaepernick workout with Raiders...NFL encouraging teams to give him workouts

[PetermansRedemption]

Good. If he can play, he can play. Give him a chance. 

[Mr. WEO]

NFL easily bought his silence for 10 million.  The XFL couldn't match his ask of 20 million.

 

 

My guess his quote has come down significantly.....

[Big Turk]

30 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

Good. If he can play, he can play. Give him a chance. 

 

Never been a question of if he could play. He assuredly is a better backup QB than what's on many NFL rosters 

 

The issue is no team wants a media circus surrounding a backup QB and forcing all the other players to get asked questions on a daily basis about him.

 

If he was like Josh Allen and having a media circus, teams would deal with it because he is worth it.

 

But he isn't worth it as a backup QB and I can't say I blame them.

 

 

[without a drought]

If this is what media circuses are made of, I can't wait for the Watson and the Browns.

[BillsFan130]

8 hours ago, Santana said:

The raiders had so many terrible off the field issues last season, Kaepernick wouldn't even come close to being that kind of distraction. And they also had a player come out and say that he was openly gay. I think they'll be fine, they handled everything that was thrown at them really well.

"Dealt with" are the key words.

 

No one could have predicted Ruggs to Have that incident.

 

They would be openly taking on a big distraction if they signed kapernick, where the other two Incidents you brought up, they had no choice to handle them as it happened early season. 

 

 

[Punching Bag]

 

https://clutchpoints.com/raiders-news-the-result-for-colin-kaepernicks-workout-with-las-vegas-revealed/

 

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On Colin Kaepernick’s workout with the #Raiders: Sounds like it went well and he impressed. The door is open…

 

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In other words, there’s a good chance that Kaepernick could be the newest quarterback of the Raiders, but he won’t be the starter.

 

[Mikie2times]

Really mixed feelings on all of this. Kaepernick made a choice to stand up for what he believed in. That led to him essentially being black balled. It also led to him making a bigger impact on the world than he ever would have as the 49ers QB or some back up QB. How many have come and gone since? Do people remember those players? So I guess I don't know if I ever looked at this as overly unfair. It was predictably unfair, which is part of the reason he did it to begin with. I'm glad he's getting looked at. I remember him against Boise State in some very memorable games. I still think he was more a Roman product IE Taylor, not so much Lamar, but ya, he would have stuck in the league if he did not make history.

 

I think he can be a good change of pace QB for the Raiders, how they used Mariota. Possibly a good back up.  

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Kaps days as starter is over but he could make a very good backup.

 

What if the starter gets injured and Kap leads them to a deep playoff run ?

[The Red King]

19 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Kaps days as starter is over but he could make a very good backup.

 

What if the starter gets injured and Kap leads them to a deep playoff run ?

 

What if the starter gets injured and Kap plays a couple games well and the starter is then cleared to return?  Cue the drama.

Edited May 26, 2022 by The Red King

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Never been a question of if he could play. He assuredly is a better backup QB than what's on many NFL rosters 

 

The issue is no team wants a media circus surrounding a backup QB and forcing all the other players to get asked questions on a daily basis about him.

 

If he was like Josh Allen and having a media circus, teams would deal with it because he is worth it.

 

But he isn't worth it as a backup QB and I can't say I blame them.

 

 

 

Based on what?  You haven't seen him play in 6 years, so exactly how are you assuring us this is true?

[Big Turk]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Based on what?  You haven't seen him play in 6 years, so exactly how are you assuring us this is true?

 

You ever see some of these QBs in games?

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

You ever see some of these QBs in games?

 

We all have.  So again I ask you why you insist he is absolutely guaranteed better than any of them right now?

[Beerball]

22 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

I agree with everything except the part about QBs that aren’t justified in being on a roster...if players are on a roster, coaches and GMs felt it was justified, regardless of what fans think...

 

 

That's good. At least we know your stance will change if he signs somewhere.

[Nelius]

I think there's probably some truth to the arguments that Kaepernick isn't very good, but then I remember that Mike Glennon and his neck played as recently as last year. Heck, teams STILL give Nick Foles millions of dollars to not play just because he was somewhat above average 7 years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if Kaep has lost a step, but when teams are still signing guys like Glennon, Foles, and Peterman, it's hard to argue that he doesn't at least deserve a chance. There are some truly awful QBs employed in this league, the bottom completely falls out after about the top 25 or so.

Edited May 27, 2022 by Nelius

[JaCrispy]

6 hours ago, Beerball said:

That's good. At least we know your stance will change if he signs somewhere.

I just don’t feel, as some do, that Kaepernick is OWED anything...if teams want to hire them, good for them...in their minds, it might be justified, and that’s their prerogative...👍

Edited May 27, 2022 by JaCrispy

[Big Turk]

14 hours ago, without a drought said:

If this is what media circuses are made of, I can't wait for the Watson and the Browns.

 

But now you see the difference...

The Browns are willing to deal with it because Watson is an elite player when he plays.

 

Kaep is not.

 

 

6 hours ago, Nelius said:

I think there's probably some truth to the arguments that Kaepernick isn't very good, but then I remember that Mike Glennon and his neck played as recently as last year. Heck, teams STILL give Nick Foles millions of dollars to not play just because he was somewhat above average 7 years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if Kaep has lost a step, but when teams are still signing guys like Glennon, Foles, and Peterman, it's hard to argue that he doesn't at least deserve a chance. There are some truly awful QBs employed in this league, the bottom completely falls out after about the top 25 or so.

 

But none of those players are causing massive disruptions and having media circuses on the team.

 

 

Also, maybe some of the players wouldn't like what he did so it could cause divide in the locker room as well...

 

As a backup QB you should aid team chemistry, not be a detriment to it.

Edited May 27, 2022 by Big Turk

[stuvian]

Can't help but think that floating Kaepernick is a revenge play by the Raiders about the Gruden debacle

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, stuvian said:

Can't help but think that floating Kaepernick is a revenge play by the Raiders NFL about the Gruden debacle

 

 

Fixed that.

 

This is all just more theater directed by the NFL to both dominate the news cycle as other sports are in the thick of their playoff battles AND to make a show of their newfound good will toward players and their social concerns.  As he was 6 years ago, Kaepernick is being used again by the NFL for purposes of propaganda--now having him grovel for a backup job. so they can look magnanimous.

 

He's totally fine with this.  

Edited May 27, 2022 by Mr. WEO

[dwight in philly]

Yaaaaawwwwwwn !

[Dr. Who]

On 5/26/2022 at 8:55 PM, BUFFALOBART said:

Nothing more American, than standing up for your beliefs, even in widespread public adversity.

If he gets a job in his chosen profession, good for him!

He turned his standing up for his beliefs into a brand, got a lot of endorsements, made good coin. While enduring scorn from some, he also received and continues to receive adulation. Lots of folks who stand up for their beliefs only get the scorn. I think the NFL is amoral enough, if the dude can play, he'll get a job.

[chongli]

Well, I caught part of a Fox Sport Radio a few hours ago, I believe it was "Dan Beyer & 6-Year NFL Tight End George Wrighster". A guest on the show who had insider info believes that Kaepernick will be offered a spot with the Raiders in a few weeks, if someone doesn't sign him first.

 

They said it was because of the backup QB situation there. After Carr, they have Jarret Stidham, who has never started an NFL game before; Nick Mullens, who, although has shown flashes, has also had issues and was cut by the Browns; and Chase Garbers, a rookie who they are high on, but only as a developmental, PS player this year, especially given Josh McDaniel's complex offense. They wanted Brian Hoyer, but he has a house in New England and wanted to stay there. They also wanted Andy Dalton, but he believes he has a better chance to eventually start in New Orleans, given that Jameis Winston is coming back from an ACL injury, so he wants to stay there. So, this insider believes after the OTA's are done in a few weeks, the Raiders will evaluate their backups and cut one to make room for Colin. He needs to be signed soon to learn McDaniel's' complex system and get the reps, after a 5-year layoff.

Edited May 31, 2022 by chongli

[Trock]

Why is this guy still hanging around?

 

What makes him so privileged to get all of these chances? 

 

It’s really odd and seems unfair to up and coming players. 
 

 

Edited May 30, 2022 by Trock

[nucci]

1 hour ago, Trock said:

Why is this guy still hanging around?

 

What makes him so privileged to get all of these chances? 

 

It’s really odd and seems unfair to up and coming players. 
 

 

How many chances has he gotten? Who besides Raiders has brought him in for a workout? Which up and coming players are not given a workout because of Kaepernick? 

Edited May 30, 2022 by nucci

[without a drought]

3 hours ago, Trock said:

Why is this guy still hanging around?

 

What makes him so privileged to get all of these chances? 

 

It’s really odd and seems unfair to up and coming players. 
 

 

Should've gone all caps with this one.

[BillsShredder83]

Part of me wants him to get signed so he can show what 5 years out of a league you weren't good in, would do... but I don't see the saga ending.

 

If he gets cut after a bad pre-season, it'll be racist.

 

If he stays as a 3rd or even 2nd stringer, it'll be racist.

 

Short of him being able to start 17 games and avg 150yds, 50%, and 2:1 int/tds, this will never stop being the narrative.

 

[GETTOTHE50]

2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Part of me wants him to get signed so he can show what 5 years out of a league you weren't good in, would do... but I don't see the saga ending.

 

If he gets cut after a bad pre-season, it'll be racist.

 

If he stays as a 3rd or even 2nd stringer, it'll be racist.

 

Short of him being able to start 17 games and avg 150yds, 50%, and 2:1 int/tds, this will never stop being the narrative.

 

 

all the other teams are racist for not trying him out, and the raiders will be racist for not signing him.

[McDeerInTheHeadlights]

The guy has been out of the league for a long while and quite frankly wasn't that good in his last few playing years.

 

Assuming someone signs him, I wonder whose comeback is more of a long shot, his or Dareous?

[HurlyBurly51]

Hope he falls flat on his face.  Can’t wait to hear his excuse.

[Success]

I'm glad he's getting a shot.  The guy led a team to within seconds of winning a SB. At minimum, he would be one of the best backups in the league.

 

It's embarrassing that he got shut out like he did. We're so afraid of opinions.

 

[Pokebball]

33 minutes ago, Success said:

I'm glad he's getting a shot.  The guy led a team to within seconds of winning a SB. At minimum, he would be one of the best backups in the league.

 

It's embarrassing that he got shut out like he did. We're so afraid of opinions.

 

If he didn't realize that he'd be pissing off half of the NFL fans, his fans, then that's on him. He has every right to do what he did and the NFL and its' fans had every right to react the way they did.

 

I guess it might be embarrassing that he got shut out like he did. No one should be surprised. Emotions erupted and smart business didn't want any part of it. Why would a businessman or woman want to align themselves with someone scorned by half of their fanbase? 

[pennstate10]

1 hour ago, Success said:

I'm glad he's getting a shot.  The guy led a team to within seconds of winning a SB. At minimum, he would be one of the best backups in the league.

 

It's embarrassing that he got shut out like he did. We're so afraid of opinions.

 

 

Let me make sure I have this straight.  Dude hasnt played a down in the NFL in 5 yrs, and he'd be one of the best backup QBs in the league?

 

 

[Your Brown Eye]

2 hours ago, Success said:

I'm glad he's getting a shot.  The guy led a team to within seconds of winning a SB.

 

 

That Super Bowl team was lead by a great defense (#2 in league), and a dominating oline that bullied people on the ground

47 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

 

Let me make sure I have this straight.  Dude hasnt played a down in the NFL in 5 yrs, and he'd be one of the best backup QBs in the league?

 

 

 

Don't forget the 2-10 record in his last season as a starter....the Kaep fan boy club doing a lot of 

 

[LeGOATski]

42 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said:

 

That Super Bowl team was lead by a great defense (#2 in league), and a dominating oline that bullied people on the ground

#2?

 

Pssshh.... Bills had the #1

[chongli]

4 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Short of him being able to start 17 games and avg 150yds, 50%, and 2:1 int/tds, this will never stop being the narrative.

 

 

[John from Riverside]

12 hours ago, Trock said:

Why is this guy still hanging around?

 

What makes him so privileged to get all of these chances? 

 

It’s really odd and seems unfair to up and coming players. 
 

 

Because finding qbs that can actually play are hard to find....there is literally not enough starting caliber qbs to go around in the league.

 

He had a good season.....got excellent contract before things went south....GMs remember that.

 

He might flop because he has been away from the game too long who knows?

[gobills404]

On 5/25/2022 at 11:07 PM, JoPoy88 said:

It is a privilege that numerous other lesser quarterbacks have enjoyed since the year Kaepernick was blackballed for having inconvenient opinions.

The majority of NFL players have those exact same “inconvenient opinions” without demanding to be the center of attention. Kaep has been out of the league cause he sucked his finals 2 seasons, and a backup QB isn’t worth the headache. Period.

[Albany,n.y.]

I just looked at the QB depth charts: https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/QB

 

There's not a lot of room for any QB to just come in now & make a team.  Seattle has the weakest QB group in the league as far as roster spots & no high to mid 2022 draft choices.  Meanwhile Mayfield & Garoppolo are still looking to be traded with it looking more like Garoppolo will stay in SF unless Lance shows massive improvement early in year 2.  That means that for all intents & purposes guys like Kaepernick & 2018 QB draft bust Josh Rosen are not going to be on NFL rosters this season.  Their best shots are to join a practice squad after injuries.  I think it's time for Rosen to get a real job and admit to himself he was the biggest mistake of the 2018 draft.  It's also time for Kaepernick to look at playing in a spring league next year & either light it up & hope to sign a 2023 NFL contract or go out and get a real job too.  

[Gugny]

40 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

I just looked at the QB depth charts: https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchartpos/QB

 

There's not a lot of room for any QB to just come in now & make a team.  Seattle has the weakest QB group in the league as far as roster spots & no high to mid 2022 draft choices.  Meanwhile Mayfield & Garoppolo are still looking to be traded with it looking more like Garoppolo will stay in SF unless Lance shows massive improvement early in year 2.  That means that for all intents & purposes guys like Kaepernick & 2018 QB draft bust Josh Rosen are not going to be on NFL rosters this season.  Their best shots are to join a practice squad after injuries.  I think it's time for Rosen to get a real job and admit to himself he was the biggest mistake of the 2018 draft.  It's also time for Kaepernick to look at playing in a spring league next year & either light it up & hope to sign a 2023 NFL contract or go out and get a real job too.  

 

Kaepernick earns a few million/year in endorsements and has a net worth of about $20 million.  His real job has been working with not-for-profits and civil rights groups.  Pretty noble if you ask me.

[Alphadawg7]

18 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said:

 

That Super Bowl team was lead by a great defense (#2 in league), and a dominating oline that bullied people on the ground

 

Don't forget the 2-10 record in his last season as a starter....the Kaep fan boy club doing a lot of 

 

You can’t give all the credit to the defense and O Line for the SB run then give all the blame to Kap on the 2-10 season.  
 

That 2-10 season the Niners had maybe the largest loss of talent for any team in NFL history over the previous 2 seasons.  
 

Every single good player on both offense and defense for the SB year was basically gone due to early surprise retirements, injuries, free agency, trades, and suspensions.  Not to mention the massive downgrade at HC.

 

No offense, you either don’t really know enough of the details here to have an accurate opinion or you’re just ignoring facts.  Either way, giving all the credit to his team, then ignoring the fact that whole team and HC were gone to just blame it all on Kap is pointless and totally contradictory statements.  Even worse was that Kap wasn’t even playing that bad in that last season considering that team was one of the worst rosters in the league with the worst coaching in the NFL that year.  

 

Im not saying he’s gonna be good or bad, but he does deserve an opportunity to show what he might be capable of.  And too many people who don’t know enough about the facts of his years in SF keep painting overly exaggerated accounts of him and those teams.  

 

[boater]

LOLZ. Kape = Doug Flutie on the divisiveness-meter.