MrEpsYtown Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Never heard of this guy and trying to dig. So he goes to Mizzou and redshirts. Decides to transfer and starts 52 games at NW Missouri. So this isn’t your typical small school guy in that he was at an SEC school and projected to handle those guys. With his size I am guessing they see him at guard or center. Very similar measurables to Bates and Morse, both super athletic left tackles who kicked inside in the NFL. Dude is very interesting at least on paper. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 3 hours ago, CapeBreton said: Yeah this guy could make the team for sure, I feel like he unfairly fell in the rankings because of a horrendous forty time, over 5 seconds. But he looks pretty fast and athletic on tape and apparently was sick when he ran that time. Yeah, I saw he had a 5.00+ 40, but he seems to play much faster. I hope he shows enough speed to get open in training camp and preseason 3 hours ago, H2o said: This guy could be our new Lee Smith. Even wears #85. Wydermer has much nicer hands IMO. But he does have blocking TE size at 6'4 255. Highlights from 2019-2020 season. Most catches were nice hands catches. Grabs that ball right out of the air. @1:20 is that Ozzie Ozbourne or Michael Jackson? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 NFLdraftbuzz.com. if I remember correctly had him position ranked as the no. 2 TE in the draft behind Trey McBride.....for real. This guy is gonna be a killer TE. If Howard gets hurt again, I don't think we'll miss a beat. Keep an eye on him this summer. McBeane scored on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, nosejob said: NFLdraftbuzz.com. if I remember correctly had him position ranked as the no. 2 TE in the draft behind Trey McBride.....for real. This guy is gonna be a killer TE. If Howard gets hurt again, I don't think we'll miss a beat. Keep an eye on him this summer. McBeane scored on this one. Home Position Ranking MOCK DRAFTS Features Draft Do-Over Big Board Top Tight Ends 2022 NFL Draft Home Positions TE ALL QUARTERBACK RUNNING BACK WIDE RECEIVER TIGHT END OFFENSIVE LINE DEFENSIVE LINE LINEBACKER DEFENSIVE BACK #1 RANKED - SCOUTING REPORT 85 Trey McBride from Colorado State TE 2021 Scouting Report POSITION RANK #1 OUR RATING 87.1 TE All Scouts Average Overall Rank 51.8 All Scouts Average Position Rank 1 Height Feet 6-4 Weight Lbs 249lbs College Senior Colorado State Forty Time Secs 4.56 Player Summary We have really struggled in finding any major downside to McBride's game, which has steadily improved until exploding onto the national scen... #2 RANKED - SCOUTING REPORT 85 Jalen Wydermyer from Texas A&M TE 2021 Scouting Report POSITION RANK #2 OUR RATING 85.7 TE All Scouts Average Overall Rank 115 All Scouts Average Position Rank 7 Height Feet 6-5 Weight Lbs 255lbs College Junior Texas A&M Forty Time Secs 5.03 Player Summary Wydermyer had a consistently productive college career in Texas where he put up good numbers and looks to be an excellent receiving tight en... #3 RANKED - SCOUTING REPORT 88 Jeremy Ruckert from Ohio State TE 2021 Scouting Report POSITION RANK #3 OUR RATING 83.3 TE All Scouts Average Overall Rank 84.1 All Scouts Average Position Rank 4 Height Feet 6-5 Weight Lbs 250lbs College Senior Ohio State Forty Time Secs 4.68 Player Summary If Jeremy Rucker could have the recruiting process over again we are sure he wouldn't pick Ohio State as he hasn't been given an opportunity... YOUR NFL GM VS. AUTODRAFT Ever wondered what would happen if your favorite team just went into the draft without doing any independent research, without studying hours of tape, or even listening to team scouts? Well, after many years of watching NFL teams making numerous questionable ‘reaches’ in the draft, and totally ignoring the prevailing wisdom - we decided to re-examine all your team’s drafts over the last ten years. The results are (sometimes) interesting – but what it really does show, is that on the whole - NFL teams would have done better by putting their feet up and just switching on autodraft. Take a look, we have every team's draft since 2011 rated. Player Rankings - Tight Ends #PlayerPosTeamWeightHeight40YDAVG POS RANKAVG OVR RANKRatingSummary 1 Trey McBride TE249lbs6-44.56151.8 87.1 We have really struggled in finding any major downside to McBride's game, which has steadily improved until exploding onto the nat... 2 Jalen Wydermyer TE255lbs6-55.037115 85.7 Wydermyer had a consistently productive college career in Texas where he put up good numbers and looks to be an excellent receivin... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Please bear with me. I've been a fan since Dec. 1973 and was on the bbmb then here until a couple of years ago. I have been reading all along and decided to get back into the water. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 5 hours ago, CapeBreton said: Yeah this guy could make the team for sure, I feel like he unfairly fell in the rankings because of a horrendous forty time, over 5 seconds. But he looks pretty fast and athletic on tape and apparently was sick when he ran that time. I like the way he catches the ball. Makes hand catches, goes down for balls, nice receiver. Weird that he fell out of the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Tanner Owen played left tackle in college, which of course is the most demanding spot on the line as far as movement skills are concerned, but his lack of length makes him an ideal candidate to move inside in the pros. Maybe he's the next Ryan Bates and will offer similar position versatility if he develops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Wydermeyer,reminds me of Martellus Bennett. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 6 hours ago, CapeBreton said: Yeah this guy could make the team for sure, I feel like he unfairly fell in the rankings because of a horrendous forty time, over 5 seconds. But he looks pretty fast and athletic on tape and apparently was sick when he ran that time. some of that probably led to drafting Tenuta, his pro day was very different than his combine. That said, passing on Wydermyer and leaving him as a priority FA was the right move because for him It’s a desirable opportunity to earn a wide-open TE3 spot on one of the league’s best teams. Sweeney has fallen pretty flat on the chances he’s been given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Does LS Cole Jenkins have any chance to unseat R.F or this just a due diligence and for someone to snap to Punt god during rookie camp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, letsgoteam said: Does LS Cole Jenkins have any chance to unseat R.F or this just a due diligence and for someone to snap to Punt god during rookie camp? The latter is my guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 Owen is an intriguing player, super athletic and been playing OT at a high level, not the best measurables, but good player nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 On 4/30/2022 at 4:24 PM, MAJBobby said: Like I do every year I will keep all the reported signings below. However they tend to come fast and Furious. So if you see one not listed here feel free to say it and tag me with link. Will update the main post. as we are in the rounds players are sitting there thinking might be better to go UDFA at this point I figured I would start the thread to be ready to start updating it. I know in past I loved UDFA looking for players to still contribute right away. Bills are no longer at that point but get me players with at least ONE elite trait RB Raheem Blackshear TE Jalen Wydermyer - there is a chance to make the team here CB Travon Fuller DT Prince Emili WR Malik Williams WR Neil Pau’u IOL Alex Anderson Edge Kingsley Jonathan WR Keith Corbin OL Derek Kerstetter OL Tanner Owen 75 on Contract (with draft picks) 11 UDFAs reportedly signed 86 on roster (4 open spots) Rookie Camp Invite (3) S Jay Lenard LS Cole Jenkins CB Ja'Marcus Ingram Thanks for creating and updating MAJ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 On 4/30/2022 at 6:00 PM, RobbRiddick said: Who will be the guy we all obsess over being an absolute 100% pro bowler in the rough* this year??? (*only to see him gone at first cut down) ........all of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 On 4/30/2022 at 6:00 PM, RobbRiddick said: Who will be the guy we all obsess over being an absolute 100% pro bowler in the rough* this year??? (*only to see him gone at first cut down) Well there is no great white hype skill guy this year...it would have been Borghi. Wydermeyer has the best chance by far imo. Though Tanner Owen and Derek Kerstetter are interesting as OL depth. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: Well there is no great white hype skill guy this year...it would have been Borghi. Wydermeyer has the best chance by far imo. Though Tanner Owen and Derek Kerstetter are interesting as OL depth. Wydermeyer will be the new undrafted All pro of camp. He will basically, need to out ugly Sweeney. All the dirty stuff, blocking, teams and good locker room guy. He is a slow TE, he better maul dudes blocking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Mat68 said: Wydermeyer will be the new undrafted All pro of camp. He will basically, need to out ugly Sweeney. All the dirty stuff, blocking, teams and good locker room guy. He is a slow TE, he better maul dudes blocking. I can also see they keeping 4 tight ends and Gilliam getting the boot. He has not had much of a role on offense, and I don’t think he will have one at all. Keeping two guys in the running back room for special only, he and Jones seems unlikely imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I can also see they keeping 4 tight ends and Gilliam getting the boot. He has not had much of a role on offense, and I don’t think he will have one at all. Keeping two guys in the running back room for special only, he and Jones seems unlikely imo. Ehhh... playing Gilliam more late in season seemed to help Devin Singletary and rest of run game a lot. and once our run game got going a bit we were nearly impossible to stop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Kmart128 said: Ehhh... playing Gilliam more late in season seemed to help Devin Singletary and rest of run game a lot. and once our run game got going a bit we were nearly impossible to stop. I don’t know about all that. Those games were against terrible teams and Gilliam still only played like 10-15% of the snaps. And I like Gilliam, but I think we are going to see a one back offense under Dorsey. It is possible they keep Reggie around, but I think it is 50/50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I don’t know about all that. Those games were against terrible teams and Gilliam still only played like 10-15% of the snaps. And I like Gilliam, but I think we are going to see a one back offense under Dorsey. It is possible they keep Reggie around, but I think it is 50/50 Gilliam has STs in his favour. I think he is very unlikely to be cut. The only FB on the roster, can play some tight end and has been a critical piece on special teams. At some point before camp I will do the exercise I did last year where I look back at exactly who did what job for them on teams in 2021, because it helps you determine who plays some STs but is easily replaceable there and who has been playing the critical spots on their ST unit. Generally guys on rookie deals who have been playing key spots on ST are hard to shift off a roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 The Bills only had 2 TEs (and Gilliam at FB) on the 53 man roster to start last season. At best I see them carrying 3 on the roster this year and it will be between Wydermeyer and Morris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 First of all, thanks, OP, for compiling this list. It was not very long ago that I would pour over these UDFA signings hoping one or two would make the Bills roster and surprise everyone. Now, it’s just fun to see if I recognize anyone. I hope they get a chance somewhere, because it ain’t likely to be Buffalo. I suppose I agree with most of you that the guy with the best chance is probably the Aggie TE. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Gilliam has STs in his favour. I think he is very unlikely to be cut. The only FB on the roster, can play some tight end and has been a critical piece on special teams. At some point before camp I will do the exercise I did last year where I look back at exactly who did what job for them on teams in 2021, because it helps you determine who plays some STs but is easily replaceable there and who has been playing the critical spots on their ST unit. Generally guys on rookie deals who have been playing key spots on ST are hard to shift off a roster. I tend to agree. I just don't think they are going to use a fullback at all. JMO, but that 15% snap count rate is likely to be more like 0-5%. If they do keep him it will be all about special teams. Let me add that if I did a 53 projection right now, Gilliam would likely be on it. I think it just depends on what happens with these tight ends and how many Dorsey plans on using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Excited to see what Wydermeyer does. He has the skillset to be productive. Hopefully being in the right clubhouse allows him to develop and contribute. Will be an added bonus and another weapon for the offense if he does. Could easily see him start off at TE #3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 14 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: I tend to agree. I just don't think they are going to use a fullback at all. JMO, but that 15% snap count rate is likely to be more like 0-5%. If they do keep him it will be all about special teams. Let me add that if I did a 53 projection right now, Gilliam would likely be on it. I think it just depends on what happens with these tight ends and how many Dorsey plans on using. I don't know what they plan going forward, but a note that Gilliam got 20% of the snaps the last 2 reg season games and 34% against NE in the playoffs, 25% vs KC. That argues a guy they were starting to depend upon more at the end of the season. Didn't we use a fullback in our run game when Kromer was here before? Boobie Dixon and Jerome Felton? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) Greg Dulcich ran a 4.69 and I watched every play he made. I don't know how sick Wyndermyer was but on tape he's faster than Dulcich. Sorry Sweeney but you're gonzo. This kid is making the team. Edited May 6, 2022 by LABILLBACKER 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't know what they plan going forward, but a note that Gilliam got 20% of the snaps the last 2 reg season games and 34% against NE in the playoffs, 25% vs KC. That argues a guy they were starting to depend upon more at the end of the season. Didn't we use a fullback in our run game when Kromer was here before? Boobie Dixon and Jerome Felton? Gilliam brings that one great value the Bills value: Versatility. As was mentioned, he can play TE, they have lined him up by himself and as the lead blocker (fullback) in the backfield, I remember one play late in the season where they set him out wide and he caught a pass for a big gain, and he as a primary role on Special Teams. There may be others, and new ones, who can do anyone of those things better than him, but his value is his ability to do all these things well. I think his job is safe in Buffalo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 10 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't know what they plan going forward, but a note that Gilliam got 20% of the snaps the last 2 reg season games and 34% against NE in the playoffs, 25% vs KC. That argues a guy they were starting to depend upon more at the end of the season. Didn't we use a fullback in our run game when Kromer was here before? Boobie Dixon and Jerome Felton? My stance is more about Dorsey and Brady than Kromer. The Felton/Boobie years was Rex Ryan ground and pound with Greg Roman. Just a totally different offense. Shula/Dorsey had Mike Tolbert in Carolina, but he really wasn't a FB. Joe Brady basically got rid of the fullback at LSU and Carolina. I think we are going see a mostly one back offense with the tight end playing the F off the line. Doesn't mean Gilliam does not make it, but it depends on if they want to keep more tight ends and whether or not they want to keep Moss/Duke Johnson. Gilliam's prowess on special teams is why he makes it. Regardless of what we saw last year, I don't think we are going see the fullback very much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 3:17 PM, RocCityRoller said: I like the Wydermyer pick up a lot. Can see him making the 53 There's no way this guy is a 5 second 40. Guy can move 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 He looked faster in his earlier clips. Kind of looked like he lumbers more in the later clips. Prob my imagination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moulds 808080 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Not at the table Karlos said: There's no way this guy is a 5 second 40. Guy can move I'm a huge Texas AnM fan and love this kid!!! He is always open. I think we will be happy if he can make the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Have the Bills signed or invited any QBs for rookie minicamp as yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 18 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Greg Dulcich ran a 4.69 and I watched every play he made. I don't know how sick Wyndermyer was but on tape he's faster than Dulcich. Sorry Sweeney but you're gonzo. This kid is making the team. Wydermyer has a huge uphill climb to beat out Sweeney. Wydermyer runs like he has cement in his shoes and can’t block for ***** at his size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 46 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: Wydermyer has a huge uphill climb to beat out Sweeney. Wydermyer runs like he has cement in his shoes and can’t block for ***** at his size. Apparently you’ve watched no tape on Him?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 55 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: Wydermyer has a huge uphill climb to beat out Sweeney. Wydermyer runs like he has cement in his shoes and can’t block for ***** at his size. Joe Marino talking points. Tommy Sweeney has no upside. JA17 may have to beg McBeane into keeping him so he has somebody to go to the Sabres game with 😦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Apparently you’ve watched no tape on Him?? Or Sweeney. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: Joe Marino talking points. Tommy Sweeney has no upside. JA17 may have to beg McBeane into keeping him so he has somebody to go to the Sabres game with 😦 Went last time with Morse, Knox and Doyle, don't think that's a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Sweeney did not do much to impress when Knox was hurt. I don’t see that he brings much as a blocker or receiver. Wydermeyer has a shot at the 53 man roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Don't the Bills usually announce the UDFA by now? What would the hold be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, CSBill said: Gilliam brings that one great value the Bills value: Versatility. As was mentioned, he can play TE, they have lined him up by himself and as the lead blocker (fullback) in the backfield, I remember one play late in the season where they set him out wide and he caught a pass for a big gain, and he as a primary role on Special Teams. There may be others, and new ones, who can do anyone of those things better than him, but his value is his ability to do all these things well. I think his job is safe in Buffalo. There was a play down the right sideline last season where Gilliam recorded the fastest speed for any Bills player that week. He was out in front of a skill player (I think) on the sideline and kind of pulling away from him. He's more athletic than we might realize. (I know my anecdotal observation here is woefully lacking specific details, but I recall this moment vividly, as it was sneakily apparent in real time and then kind of eye opening after the fact when the MPH was revealed.) Edited May 7, 2022 by Richard Noggin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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