Diggs Extended 4 more years breaking news per WGR 550

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

41 minutes ago, CapeBreton said:

Did not see that coming but looks like a good deal! I do worry about WRs not aging well these days and Diggs was banged up pretty much all of last year so that’s not a great sign, but glad he’s back! 

 

22 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Really?? Assumed it was expected myself, at least at some point. I do recall seeing a couple posters that were saying they thought he would be traded for some reason (don't know the reason making one believe that)....

 

There was no way Diggs wasn't going to get taken care of eventually or traded imo

I LOVE it that both sides have intentions for Diggs to retire a Bill. Very excited to hear that.

 

Yes figured there was discussion in the works.  IMO outcome was either he's sign a deal the Bills could live with (which is what happened) or if he was asking for Adams/Hill and higher money, then a good chance they could have traded him.  If he was sounding like I need to be paid NOW, then could have seen a trade in next two weeks.  If he wanted a mega deal but sounded like he was OK to play out this season, then would have kept him around and either see if by next year the market changes a little and are able to sign him or traded him next off season and draft a WR likely in 1st round this year.

 

Has there been any numbers posted on salary cap affect or contract breakdown for up coming years?  All I've read is a decrease in cap this year which is kind of a given.

[Patrick Duffy]

5 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

 

Yes figured there was discussion in the works.  IMO outcome was either he's sign a deal the Bills could live with (which is what happened) or if he was asking for Adams/Hill and higher money, then a good chance they could have traded him.  If he was sounding like I need to be paid NOW, then could have seen a trade in next two weeks.  If he wanted a mega deal but sounded like he was OK to play out this season, then would have kept him around and either see if by next year the market changes a little and are able to sign him or traded him next off season and draft a WR likely in 1st round this year.

 

Has there been any numbers posted on salary cap affect or contract breakdown for up coming years?  All I've read is a decrease in cap this year which is kind of a given.

 

I haven't seen anywhere just yet myself unless I missed it....

 

 

[WMDman]

lets. *****. go.

[Warcodered]

 

[BillsSbSoon]

3 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

I think Edmunds gets traded before the draft. His cap hit is/will be too high. Just speculation of course.

And then we would have a big hole at mlb. Doesnt make a whole lot of sense to do that right now with a team trying to win a super bowl. 

I wanna see what tremaine does with this revamped dline in front of him

[Coach Tuesday]

We are in the heyday.  Enjoy the feeling.

[Freddie's Dead]

Whaley can go suck a bag o' *****.  Super Bowl, babyyyyyyy!!!!!!

[FilthyBeast]

I definitely didn't see this coming but obviously a key move keeping core players intact and likely freeing up some cap space to secure one of the top DB's left on the FA market.

 

Not sure how this story will end for this current group but this is the closet thing to a 'golden era of Bills football' since the 90's teams.

[MAJBobby]

While Diggs was not drafted here.  Lets look at the Extensions given to the Players of the McD and Beane draft eras.  I think they know what they are doing in the draft as well. 

 

2017 (Starters 3)

Tre White - Extended 

Dion Dawkins - Extended 

Matt Milano - Extended

Nathan Peterman 

Tanner Vallejo 

 

2018 (Starters 5)

Josh Allen - extended

Tremaine Edmunds

Harrison Phillips

Taron Johnson - Extended

Siran Neal - Re-signed

Wyatt Teller

Ray - Ray McCloud

Austin Proehl

 

2019 (3 Starters)

Ed Oliver

Cody Ford

Devin Singletary

Dawson Knox

Vosean Joseph

Jaquan Johnson

Darryl Johnson

Tommy Sweeney

 

2020 (3 Starters - Dane took over for Tre)

AJ Epensea

Zack Moss

Gabriel Davis

Jake Fromm

Tyler Bass

Dane Jackson

 

2021 (2 Starters)

Greg Rousseau

Boogie Basham Jr.

Spencer Brown

Tommy Doyle

Marquez Stevenson

Damar Hamlin

Rachad Wildgoose

 

1 hour ago, Einstein's Dog said:

I think you forgot Knox.  He will get his market share a year early (w some guaranteed cash to sweeten the pot).  He's a keeper.

No I didnt.  I personally just do not think Knox is a major priority.  I know he is well liked and has improved every year, but it is not like he is a super top end TE.  Though I do think he could get an extension I also could see him as the odd man out on this offense.  

[Big Turk]

43 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

We already had that available. Remember the cap numbers change significantly once it shifts to only counting the Top-51. We were already expected to have the room to sign rookies earmarked. Any savings from this Diggs deal will likely (hopefully) go to more Free Agent signings.

 

 

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Damn! McDermott loves Diggs like that too? Whole family has Diggs jerseys?? 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, eball said:

Manny Sanders is beside himself on GMFB…love that guy.

 

”See this table right here?  I’m gonna jump through it!!!”

 

LOL at his stuff about how Josh Allen has a "Diggs shrine" in his locker and Diggs has a "Josh Allen shrine" in his.

 

And the part about how Josh jumped on trade talk to Dallas:  "No."

[Patrick Duffy]

8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

While Diggs was not drafted here.  Lets look at the Extensions given to the Players of the McD and Beane draft eras.  I think they know what they are doing in the draft as well. 

 

2017 (Starters 3)

Tre White - Extended 

Dion Dawkins - Extended 

Matt Milano - Extended

Nathan Peterman 

Tanner Vallejo 

 

2018 (Starters 5)

Josh Allen - extended

Tremaine Edmunds

Harrison Phillips

Taron Johnson - Extended

Siran Neal - Re-signed

Wyatt Teller

Ray - Ray McCloud

Austin Proehl

 

2019 (3 Starters)

Ed Oliver

Cody Ford

Devin Singletary

Dawson Knox

Vosean Joseph

Jaquan Johnson

Darryl Johnson

Tommy Sweeney

 

2020 (3 Starters - Dane took over for Tre)

AJ Epensea

Zack Moss

Gabriel Davis

Jake Fromm

Tyler Bass

Dane Jackson

 

2021 (2 Starters)

Greg Rousseau

Boogie Basham Jr.

Spencer Brown

Tommy Doyle

Marquez Stevenson

Damar Hamlin

Rachad Wildgoose

 

Yeah, couple disappointing picks but nobody will knock them all out the park. I mean I think the most disappointing would be Ford considering he was a 2nd round pick. Some will say AJ. Epensea too being a 2nd rounder, but for me it's still a bit early to count him out imo.

 

In any event, the good/solid picks out number the bad for sure

Edited April 6, 2022 by Sheneneh Jenkins

[transplantbillsfan]

Holy crap! This is awesome! 

 

Weird immediate question but how much Cap space does this free up?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

20 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

SLIME

[Ralonzo]

4 hours ago, Virgil said:

I was off by 4 mil total.  

 

35 minutes ago, Augie said:

Chump change……

 

: sad face :

[Gambit]

 

 

[loyal2dagame]

Glorious!, Wonderful!.

After 30 years of watching guys walk and not keeping a solid core together on this team,  these past 4-5 years are a refreshing reset in how to keep a team competitive long term. 

Way to go Buffalo Bills. The current management is without a doubt the best we've ever had. 

 

 

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Yeah, couple disappointing picks but nobody will knock them all out the park. I mean I think the most disappointing would be Ford considering he was a 2nd round pick. Some will say AJ. Epensea too being a 2nd rounder, but for me it's still a bit early to count him out imo.

 

In any event, the good/solid picks out number the bad for sure

 

The issue with the EDGE picks are that they can take a while to develop.  

 

Ideally their rookie year is the learning curve and then in Year 2, they hit the ground running.... Rousseau/Basham, looking at you.

 

With Epenesa, we're now entering Year 3, and if he does start figuring it out, well then we have 1-2 years of him before we have to shell out big money at a big money position.  

 

I think Beane is pretty good at identifying talent in the draft, but my one critique is that we need more immediate impact out of our high picks...especially now with a top heavy roster. 

 

 

 

Edited April 6, 2022 by SCBills

[MrEpsYtown]

20 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

While Diggs was not drafted here.  Lets look at the Extensions given to the Players of the McD and Beane draft eras.  I think they know what they are doing in the draft as well. 

 

2017 (Starters 3)

Tre White - Extended 

Dion Dawkins - Extended 

Matt Milano - Extended

Nathan Peterman 

Tanner Vallejo 

 

2018 (Starters 5)

Josh Allen - extended

Tremaine Edmunds

Harrison Phillips

Taron Johnson - Extended

Siran Neal - Re-signed

Wyatt Teller

Ray - Ray McCloud

Austin Proehl

 

2019 (3 Starters)

Ed Oliver

Cody Ford

Devin Singletary

Dawson Knox

Vosean Joseph

Jaquan Johnson

Darryl Johnson

Tommy Sweeney

 

2020 (3 Starters - Dane took over for Tre)

AJ Epensea

Zack Moss

Gabriel Davis

Jake Fromm

Tyler Bass

Dane Jackson

 

2021 (2 Starters)

Greg Rousseau

Boogie Basham Jr.

Spencer Brown

Tommy Doyle

Marquez Stevenson

Damar Hamlin

Rachad Wildgoose

 

No I didnt.  I personally just do not think Knox is a major priority.  I know he is well liked and has improved every year, but it is not like he is a super top end TE.  Though I do think he could get an extension I also could see him as the odd man out on this offense.  

 

Also, there are guys on that list who are contributors for other teams as well. 

• Wyatt Teller is an all pro guard
• Tanner Vallejo turned into an excellent special teams guy 
• Ray Ray is a starting return man in the league
• Phillips got big money from the Vikings
• Daryll Johnson was traded for a pick
• Peterman has hung around the league somehow
• Fromm, Wildgoose, and Jack Anderson were plucked off our practice squad and put on main rosters

 

Not to mention UDFAs like Levi Wallace who became a starter and turned it into money. Or Ryan Bates who came in a preseason trade and as just extended. They likely wanted him as an UDFA for them to make that move.

 

They have done an exceptional job. 

Edited April 6, 2022 by MrEpsYtown

[Mat68]

2 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Yeah, couple disappointing picks but nobody will knock them all out the park. I mean I think the most disappointing would be Ford considering he was a 2nd round pick. Some will say AJ. Epensea too being a 2nd rounder, but for me it's still a bit early to count him out imo.

 

In any event, the good/solid picks out number the bad for sure

Epensea going into the year was just behind Chase Young as best edge in the country.  Idk if his physical change helped or hurt him.  He was a no brainer 2nd rder.  Gotta take swings at premier positions.  If Rouseau, Basham, or Epensea hit its a huge boost.  You can call Epensea a miss if he doesnt pan out but I wouldnt blame the organization.  Seemed like a homerun at the time.

[Alphadawg7]

My absolute favorite tweet response to the Diggs contract news:

 

 

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

What? No but he does need to start hitting on picks cause we can’t keep signing free agents. He also drafted josh and that gives a chance to win every year. We have to get cheaper at certain positions. That’s just a fact

 

This is ridiculously short sighted - you do realize that since McD took over bringing The Carolina board in year 1.  This front office has drafted 14 starters in those 5 drafts including 5 different drafted players that we have extended.

 

In addition we have at least 14 additional drafted or UDFA guys that are primary back-ups and contributors on this roster.

 

Beane does not need to start hitting on Picks - this team with this FO is by far one of the top 3 drafting teams across the league.
 

Is every pick perfect - Nope, but he has used the draft well to create a deep team and used FA to ensure there are no major holes.

 

Will he draft 4 starters at the positions you suggested - who knows - he may read the team needs very differently than you because he knows who he is looking at for extensions and cuts post June 1st around the league, but the one thing we know - the guys he will draft will be ballers.  
 

I am not worried about the draft because Beane and McDermott have been on fire getting picks that fit needs and wants both starting and depth.

 

 

 

 

[Brand J]

2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Ranking next extensions in order. 
 

1. Oliver

 

I am not putting Poyer or Edmunds in yet. Need to see the Bills get through the draft. I could see both moved at the draft. 
 

I am leaning to I can get Edmunds level play from Dodson. I know though the internal Bills think much more ahighly of Edmunds than even I do. 

If Edmunds isn’t going to be extended this off-season, or the first few weeks of the regular season, then he needs to be traded before, during, or after the draft to a team that values him highly. 

[Patrick Duffy]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

The issue with the EDGE picks are that they can take a while to develop.  

 

Ideally their rookie year is the learning curve and then in Year 2, they hit the ground running.... Rousseau/Basham, looking at you.

 

With Epenesa, we're now entering Year 3, and if he does start figuring it out, well then we have 1-2 years of him before we have to shell out big money at a big money position.  

 

I think Beane is pretty good at identifying talent in the draft, but my one critique is that we need more immediate impact out of our high picks...especially now with a top heavy roster. 

 

 

 

Agree....would like to see their 1st round pick (2nd too with any luck) players make more of an impact similar to how DK Metcalf was or Chase with Bengals. 

[Punching Bag]

4 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

I really thought this was gonna be Peter pan 

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/video/bills-wr-stefon-diggs-reportedly-agree-four-year-104m-extension?ls=pftvod

Peter Pan and Chris Simms discuss this.

[Utah John]

This is great news.  Does anyone know what this does to this year's salary cap?

[DrDawkinstein]

6 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

The issue with the EDGE picks are that they can take a while to develop.  

 

Ideally their rookie year is the learning curve and then in Year 2, they hit the ground running.... Rousseau/Basham, looking at you.

 

With Epenesa, we're now entering Year 3, and if he does start figuring it out, well then we have 1-2 years of him before we have to shell out big money at a big money position.  

 

I think Beane is pretty good at identifying talent in the draft, but my one critique is that we need more immediate impact out of our high picks...especially now with a top heavy roster. 

 

 

 

 

I'm giving Epenesa the leeway I used to give Edmunds (who I no longer have patience for), considering Epenesa's rookie year was 2020 in the height of COVID, with no rookie camps, and remote training camp. I'm putting him on the same timeline as Rousseau/Basham, so I expect to see some progress this year. I think Rousseau has already showed enough for us to feel confident he is on his way. We'll see what these young guys pick up from Miller.

[Einstein's Dog]

17 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

No I didnt.  I personally just do not think Knox is a major priority.  I know he is well liked and has improved every year, but it is not like he is a super top end TE.  Though I do think he could get an extension I also could see him as the odd man out on this offense.  

I strongly disagree with you here.  TEs are difficult to come by.  The price is skyrocketing and rookies take time to develop. 

 

Extending Knox in a market fashion similar to Josh and Diggs is the smart thing to do.  He's part of the core we now have and will be the best TE in Bills history before all is said and done.  You may not consider him a super top TE but he's the best we've got - and improving.  And if you go out in the open market you will pay (see J Smith/ D Ngoku).

 

This FO has been shown to be sharp.  Extending Diggs was smart.  Extending Knox is up there with extending Oliver.

[Yawning Frog]

YAAY!!!

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

Would it be weird if I got a Brandon Beane jersey?  He is a rockstar! 

[Special K]

Visual representation of the Bills offseason:

 

 

 

I'm so glad the Bills have an owner who can afford it!!

[K-9]

4 hours ago, Greg S said:

One of the best at what he does.

 

 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

Would it be weird if I got a Brandon Beane jersey?  He is a rockstar! 

 

This is a great idea. But would it be a blue blazer with "BEANE" on the back name plate?

[K-9]

Another tip of the hat to Jimmy Overdorf. Cap wizard. 

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

This is a great idea. But would it be a blue blazer with "BEANE" on the back name plate?

I bet the Bills could sell the crap out of a Brandon Beane "blazer jersey"!  or maybe one of those tux t-shirt type shirts with the blazer and nameplate.

[MrEpsYtown]

9 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Epensea going into the year was just behind Chase Young as best edge in the country.  Idk if his physical change helped or hurt him.  He was a no brainer 2nd rder.  Gotta take swings at premier positions.  If Rouseau, Basham, or Epensea hit its a huge boost.  You can call Epensea a miss if he doesnt pan out but I wouldnt blame the organization.  Seemed like a homerun at the time.

 

Epenesa took a lot of time to really get going at Iowa, so I am hoping he burst on to the scene a bit this year. He might just be a guy who needs time to adjust. 

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

Another tip of the hat to Jimmy Overdorf. Cap wizard. 

 

Great point. Dude was hated here for so long, but has proven he definitely wasnt the problem at OBD. He deserves big credit and appreciation, and really some apologies.

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Epensea going into the year was just behind Chase Young as best edge in the country.  Idk if his physical change helped or hurt him.  He was a no brainer 2nd rder.  Gotta take swings at premier positions.  If Rouseau, Basham, or Epensea hit its a huge boost.  You can call Epensea a miss if he doesnt pan out but I wouldnt blame the organization.  Seemed like a homerun at the time.

Yeah there have been some instances where AJ will make a play and has good speed. Then you don't hear from him for a while, but as I said imo it's too early to determine.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

I bet the Bills could sell the crap out of a Brandon Beane "blazer jersey"!  or maybe one of those tux t-shirt type shirts with the blazer and nameplate.

 

I'm trying to customize a jersey t-shirt on fanatics.com, but it wont let me put $$ as the jersey number 

 

[AuntieEm]

4 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Think that seals the deal for the Bills 1st round pick. I'd be surprised if it's a WR unless one falls in their lap. Unlikely since so many teams need a WR. I think it's the best available CB. 

   Just my take and I think pretty much a possibility is the Bills will end up with one of the top receivers of this draft class, but it will be on a second prove it contract once his rookie deal makes him a free agent after spending his rookie deal with sub standard qbs throwing to him.  In the mean time they get interest from any FA receivers looking to join a winner because we have Josh.  He is a creature and other creatures wanna join him. 

 

   So I don't worry about which direction they go in draft they seem to hit on the biggest moves to building a core that can sustain some plug and play with the defense.  No one puts the loss on Josh as defense lost it, and yet even them caving had Josh had another go I think a good number of general nfl fans wouldn't be surprised if Allen didn't impose his will driving for a  GW TD with a 2 point conversion.

 

 

    So whomever they draft is fine by me.

Edited April 6, 2022 by AuntieEm