Diggs Extended 4 more years breaking news per WGR 550

[BillnutinHouston]

12 hours ago, Hebert19 said:

There is a reason we have 2 safeties visiting.  

 

I think it's more likely that they need a backup plan in case their first choice is unavailable.   

 

 

[coloradobillsfan]

1 hour ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

I'm sorry but I didn't see, does this free up more cap space for us?

I saw this in Sal's article on wgr550
 

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According to the NFLPA's public salary cap report, the Bills have less than $287,000 remaining in available salary cap space for this coming season. They'll need over $2 million of space to sign their draft picks.

 

[Motor26]

14 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

I think it's more likely that they need a backup plan in case their first choice is unavailable.   

 

 

Who are the two safeties? 

[BillsFanForever19]

21 minutes ago, coloradobillsfan said:

I saw this in Sal's article on wgr550

 

Yes, but this isn't confirmation. Just speculation. Is it likely? Yes. But we don't know for sure. It's been reported as an extension, not a completely new deal.

[3rdand12]

so darned late to the Party
hell yes !

 

[Aurelius]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

FWIW, both Poyer and Hyde got new deals prior to free agency, when an argument could be made that they were grossly underpaid for performance.

 

So that would seem to be a case of pot-kettle-black

 

Rachel Bush was "going off" about Von Miller getting signed whilst her hubbykins wasn't being extended, well prior to the Diggs extension.  So I would say the "understanding" you speak of may be more perception than reality.

In addition, Josh Allen needs targets.  Nobody gonna argue with Diggs, the number 1 receiver for the QB getting his contract adjusted.  It also benefits cap space.  Only so many lions can eat, and others have to wait for food.  Everybody knows that. 

[Einstein's Dog]

6 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Cool if he produces I will decide if I would extend him. Right now would not be my priority. If anything he likely goes the Gesicki route and gets Tagged. 
 

that is how I would deal with Knox at this point. At end of the day cannot pay everyone. and because of that IMO this is going to be Poyers last year as a Bill as well. (Best case) may not even make it into the year. 

I disagree again.  If you believe Knox is going to be a top 10 TE then pay him like a top 10-15 TE during this season.  Don't have him go to FA market.  You get deals by extending while still under contract.  Gesicki will not be with Miami long term because it's unlikely that Miami will be the highest bidder next year.  The Bills should not go down that road.

 

The FO already probably knows Knox is a great fit - offensively and culturally.  Also his value is growing, sign him on the upswing.  Njoku got tagged at $10M.  J Smith got $12M.  During the season, Knox would be amenable to getting a raise and guaranteed money.  I think Knox likes it here and would take a reasonable market contract, $10-12M/yr for the next 5 years with some nice guaranteed cash.

[JoPoy88]

Long thread to review…the people that were advocating for a Diggs trade or other sort or separation  just a few days ago seem to be absent from all pages…

 

Funny to think even ONE of you would even entertain the possibility that Beane would trade multiple assets, including a 1st round pick, only to jettison the guy after 2 years of elite production cuz he was getting too expensive. Love this place, only for the unintended comedy if nothing else. 

[Patrick Duffy]

11 minutes ago, Aurelius said:

In addition, Josh Allen needs targets.  Nobody gonna argue with Diggs, the number 1 receiver for the QB getting his contract adjusted.  It also benefits cap space.  Only so many lions can eat, and others have to wait for food.  Everybody knows that. 

The wait is never a long one. Josh spreads the ball around quite well giving everyone opportunities. So imo there is plenty to go around for all the lions to eat

[Warriorspikes51]

Per RapSheet

 

More details: Stefon Diggs gets a $21.5M signing bonus and $70M in total guarantees. The cap number for 2022 goes down, as well.

[JerseyBills]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

I'm just glad the D & G show has been renewed.

 

 

Much appreciate this post. Never saw this! That was some great footage!

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said:

Long thread to review…the people that were advocating for a Diggs trade or other sort or separation  just a few days ago seem to be absent from all pages…

 

Funny to think even ONE of you would even entertain the possibility that Beane would trade multiple assets, including a 1st round pick, only to jettison the guy after 2 years of elite production cuz he was getting too expensive. Love this place, only for the unintended comedy if nothing else. 

Actually I spoke about that earlier in the thread and a few responded, so not all of them are absent lol. Anyways, they were assuming Diggs would want T. Hill type of contract/money  which gave the feeling he would get traded.

 

I for one wasn't concerned the slightest. I have been highly confident the whole time Diggs would get taken care of at some point. No way he would get traded and thought didn't enter my mind. But for some reason some here thought Diggs would demand that type of T. Hill contract and nothing less I guess.. Lol

[BillsfaninChicago]

This off season has been like winning the Mega Millions. I can’t believe how much we have gotten done. It seems like older regimes would have either traded Diggs or eventually let him walk. Success breeds success and we are seeing it finally.

[T master]

I've heard that with this signing the Bills have opened up another something like $18 million in cap space i could see Beane bringing back Gilmore & possibly Hughes & still having enough for the rookie class .

 

I don't know how he's doing it but i think it's going to be one hell of a ride this year !! 

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, BillsfaninChicago said:

This off season has been like winning the Mega Millions. I can’t believe how much we have gotten done. It seems like older regimes would have either traded Diggs or eventually let him walk. Success breeds success and we are seeing it finally.

Yeah it's exciting, remember there was lot of post that said Bills wouldn't be able to do much with the cap space etc. Turns out much more could be done that what they thought lol

[The Dean]

2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I would wholeheartedly disagree that the Diggs extension was done now simply because they wanted cap space. It was done now because we want to keep him in the fold for years to come, keep him happy with all the other big deals that were handed out to WR's, and because he's wanted a new deal since the day we traded for him over two seasons ago. 

 

The signing has been billed as an "extension". Not a completely new deal. When we extended Josh, his contract stayed the same and the new numbers came in the extension. It's possible they reworked these two years, but it's not a given. Especially when you consider his number now isn't excessive in the grand scheme of top WR's.

 

 

While you may be right (but I'd bet money you are not) why extend it NOW?  The Bills could have waited until after the draft to extend him, later in the year or next year to extend him. BTW the bolded is your speculation I think. Do you have any real evidence for this? I mean every player would like a new better deal, but where to you see Diggs demanding one since he first came here?

 

And I believe Josh's deal did help the cap when it was signed. Please let me know if I'm wrong on that.

[Niagara Dude]

13 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

I get that sentiment. But you cannot pay everyone. So I do think Poyer is that Veteran chip that has been rumored that could get moved in draft. 
 

we will see. But most likely the team stays together in 2022 to go all in to get that Lombardi this year. Then Poyer and Edmunds move on in UFA. 

I think it makes sense to trade Poyer, very good play but I think the Bills can upgrade the position with a player who has better speed. 

3 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

How does Beane not win GM of the year after this off-season??

They still need to win on the field and the Super Bowl

[Doc Brown]

47 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

Long thread to review…the people that were advocating for a Diggs trade or other sort or separation  just a few days ago seem to be absent from all pages…

 

Funny to think even ONE of you would even entertain the possibility that Beane would trade multiple assets, including a 1st round pick, only to jettison the guy after 2 years of elite production cuz he was getting too expensive. Love this place, only for the unintended comedy if nothing else. 

I wasn't advocating for a trade but if Diggs demanded to be the highest paid NFL WR then it would make sense to trade him now where you can sell high.  It wasn't a crazy conversation given the recent trades of Adams and Hill.  Instead, we got him on a reasonable 20.7 million a year.  That's only 2.7 million more per year than Christian Kirk.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said:

I think it makes sense to trade Poyer, very good play but I think the Bills can upgrade the position with a player who has better speed. 

Who do you suggest that player might be that's an upgrade over Poyer? He and Hyde have a type of connection that you don't see very often. One knows what the other is thinking and how they will move. That itself is very important and I don't see anyone that's an upgrade over Poyer at this time.

 

Maybe next year could find someone, But I don't see where you think that player will come from at the moment.

[longtimebillsfan]

3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Could you provide a link? I've yet to hear anyone who has any info on what the contract looks like. Just fan speculation.

I have read so many articles I have no idea where it was.  The statement just said that Diggs cap hit for 2022 was reduced.

[Chandler#81]

6 hours ago, Augie said:

 

When I first saw this I thought is was going to be a stat Cowherd showed today. The Bill’s five highest paid players are: QB, Edge, WR, CB and LT. ALL of the key positions. 

 

The Patriots five highest paid players are a LB (Judon - a good player), then a couple TE’s and a couple so-so WR’s. 

 

Which team do you think has better managed their salary cap in today’s game? Hats off to Beane & company! 

Excellent analysis, Augster!👍

[Warriorspikes51]

54 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said:

I think it makes sense to trade Poyer, very good play but I think the Bills can upgrade the position with a player who has better speed. 

They still need to win on the field and the Super Bowl

 

How exactly do you upgrade from a 1st Team All Pro? Poyer has plenty of speed for what he does. 

[HappyDays]

5 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

My guess is that many of those draft picks acquired for Hill will go towards helping Mahomes.

 

Yeah. If they're lucky they might even draft someone as good as Tyreek Hill.

[Chandler#81]

6 hours ago, Ross Murdock said:

God less Ralph Wilson, .. No they just have to ring home the Lombardi!!     

Yes, Ralph was godless. No, you cant call the Lombardi and ask it to come over

🤦‍♂️

[Norcalbillsfan]

The diggs extension makes me think if the right WR is at 25 the bills take it. Signing Gabe is looking more and more difficult. Now would be a great time to have a young reciever learning from diggs, with no pressure to come in and be the #2 this year.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

The diggs extension makes me think if the right WR is at 25 the bills take it. Signing Gabe is looking more and more difficult. Now would be a great time to have a young reciever learning from diggs, with no pressure to come in and be the #2 this year.

Not sure what makes you believe this?? Why is it looking more difficult? He still playing on his rookie contract so I don't understand 

[HappyDays]

4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

Said it many times this offseason.........you don't re-do Diggs deal until there is only one year left.

 

By that time we'd be looking at at least $30 million per year as the average market value of top WRs. You always pay the superstars on your team a year early. Our superstars are Allen, Diggs, and White. Beane paid all of them a year early. A year later each of their contracts looked (or in Diggs' case, will look) like bargains. Beane knows what he's doing.

 

If the fallout of giving Diggs a long term contract that will save us millions on cap space years into the future is that we lose Poyer this offseason or next, so be it. Poyer is replaceable. Diggs is not.

[Warriorspikes51]

4 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Not sure what makes you believe this?? Why is it looking more difficult? He still playing on his rookie contract so I don't understand 

By the time Davis is up for a new deal, even if he commanded 25-30 mil on open market…cap may be up 50 mil from what it is now from TV deals

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, T master said:

I've heard that with this signing the Bills have opened up another something like $18 million in cap space

 

Yeah where did you hear that?

[DrDawkinstein]

9 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah where did you hear that?

 

Spotrac wiped Diggs' number and dont have a new one, so the total listed for the Bills is currently $18M short. Expect $10-11M to be added back on when the new numbers come in.

 

 

Edited April 7, 2022 by DrDawkinstein

[Hapless Bills Fan]

2 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Who do you suggest that player might be that's an upgrade over Poyer? He and Hyde have a type of connection that you don't see very often. One knows what the other is thinking and how they will move. That itself is very important and I don't see anyone that's an upgrade over Poyer at this time.

 

Maybe next year could find someone, But I don't see where you think that player will come from at the moment.

 

Is it possible the Bills like Cam Lewis or Damar Hamlin?

 

Lewis started 2 games last season before going on IR, and one game (Houston) this season.

Hamlin played about 1/4 of the snaps vs Houston and in the NWE playoff game.

 

I guess I should clarify I don't think either of them are an upgrade on Poyer at this point, just that it's possible the Bills may feel fairly comfortable they might be ready to play - like they let Wallace walk in part because they felt comfortable with Dane Jackson

 

[No_Matter_What]

7 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

My guess is that many of those draft picks acquired for Hill will go towards helping Mahomes.

Agreed. Now we just need to make sure that guy we take at 25 is better than whoever they pick couple spots later.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they jumped us either.

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

4 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Yeah it's exciting, remember there was lot of post that said Bills wouldn't be able to do much with the cap space etc. Turns out much more could be done that what they thought lol

 Yep. And the same people saying we had no cap space are the ones saying “you can’t pay everyone!” now. 

[TBBills]

8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

No, extending Diggs just opened up a can of new issues.

 

Players understand when free agents get paid...........but once you start re-doing players with years remaining on their deal and rewarding them as if that player is an actual free agent.........ie not "team friendly"...........then it's invariable that guys like Poyer/Hyde/Edmunds .........whose values are unlikely to ever be higher........are inevitably going to feel jealous or mistreated and angry with the team.    

 

None of those players should be extended any further than they are right now and they had peace on that front IMO because of the fact that Diggs deal was below market.

 

Said it many times this offseason.........you don't re-do Diggs deal until there is only one year left.

 

 

 

 

You just started learning this football stuff... it's ok leave the decision making to the guys that know more than you.

[nucci]

4 hours ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

The diggs extension makes me think if the right WR is at 25 the bills take it. Signing Gabe is looking more and more difficult. Now would be a great time to have a young reciever learning from diggs, with no pressure to come in and be the #2 this year.

Why?

[muppy]

today basking in the post Diggs signing afterglow I must say this has been THE most fun offseason as well as lead in into the NFL draft I can remember. Does anybody remember how time would dragggg leading to the draft? Not this year HOLY COW PEOPLE.

 

I love that we fanbase are as happy to have Diggs as he is to be a part of and represent our fanbase Bills Mafia. He lights UP when talking about we fans. Allen too actually. We are BLESSED!~!~!!!!!

 

GO BILLS!~!~!!!!! 

[MAJBobby]

12 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I would wholeheartedly disagree that the Diggs extension was done now simply because they wanted cap space. It was done now because we want to keep him in the fold for years to come, keep him happy with all the other big deals that were handed out to WR's, and because he's wanted a new deal since the day we traded for him over two seasons ago. 

 

The signing has been billed as an "extension". Not a completely new deal. When we extended Josh, his contract stayed the same and the new numbers came in the extension. It's possible they reworked these two years, but it's not a given. Especially when you consider his number now isn't excessive in the grand scheme of top WR's.

It’s already been reported that his Cap hit I. 2022 was reduced 

[DCofNC]

Willing to bet it’s much like I purposed, sure sounds like it, 70 M lower base rates and a big signing bonus, effectively a void last year.

[T master]

8 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah where did you hear that?

 

From a family member that follows the team much closer than i do not sure exactly when or how i thought it was a awful lot of cap for this year i will ask for more details .

[Mr. WEO]

22 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

With the possible exception of Moss, I don’t think any of them have a high enough profile to generate the bash volume required to even approach Edmunds level.  Maybe Shaq I guess.

 

Edit:  Plus with Edmunds we get the added feature of people misspelling his simple last name.  How can this be done with Moss or Lawson.  Sure Haack is easy to misspell but he is a punter.

 

the whole lot of them are punters...