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Remaining items on Beane's list because I believe in this moment in time there is nothing he can't do:

 

1.  Trade for DK Metcalf without giving up any players or important draft picks;

2.  Sign S. Gilmore to start at CB for the veteran minimum;

3.  Make it so "The Last Jedi" never existed either here or in any of the other multiverses, except for the multiverses where I have hair (f*** those lucky jerks);

4.  Sign 66 year old Jeff Nixon to a 1 game cap friendly (of course) contract so he can play against the Dolphins at home one more time to try and duplicate or surpass his four turnover game (3 INTs, 1 FR) that ended the 20 game losing streak in 1980 and so he can hang with Poyer and Hyde, where he belongs.

 

OK...so...giddy up now.

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12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I think the quotes make it a reference to the incorrect assessment of Diggs that was made by the Vikings, their fans, and most of the league at the time of his trade.

 

Doesnt read to me like Brown is calling him a diva, even sarcastically. He's referring to the quotes by others.

Are we playing the Vikings at home or on the road ? Regardless I expect to see Diggs get targeted more then a dozen times !!! 

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1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

If he has another season like last year, he definitely gets a top 5 TE contract because he will be a top 5 TE.

71 targets 49 receptions for 587 yards and 9 TDs isn’t top 5 TE Production IMO

 

those are all (except maybe the TDs) easily replaceable. 
 

but let’s see what he does this year with likely more targets. 

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10 minutes ago, Putin said:

Are we playing the Vikings at home or on the road ? Regardless I expect to see Diggs get targeted more then a dozen times !!! 

Oh for sure....will be the 1st time game against them since leaving for Bills. Big game for him written all over here.  

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48 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Yeah, wonder what made him decide to use that word? He has certainly proved otherwise, but anyways

The “Diva” label came from Min with the Trade. And why he is using it here and putting in quotes. 

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7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

49 receptions for 587 yards and 9 TDs isn’t top 5 TE Production IMO

 

Stats rarely tell the whole story.

 

Especially for a TE who is part of an offense loaded with WR talent. Unlike guys like Kittle, Waller, Andrews, Pitts, etc who are their QBs #1 option.

 

The way Knox played last year was like a top-5 TE. If he keeps it up, he's a top-5 TE, even with those stats.

 

We'll see what the OC change to Dorsey who lived and died by his TEs does for him. I'm also more confident with Knox than some others that he'd give the Bills the Milano/Dawkins/White type of discount. He'll get paid but it will be a fair team deal.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

49 receptions for 587 yards and 9 TDs isn’t top 5 TE Production IMO

11 TDs counting the  postseason, and please keep in mind all the other high class receivers on the team.  Not enough footballs to go around to keep everybody in synch with high class production.  But be assurred that he is, in fact, high class.

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4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

The “Diva” label came from Min with the Trade. And why he is using it here and putting in quotes. 

Yeah, it was pointed out to me that was likely the case. Makes sense, I just wasn't thinking of it along those lines at the time

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6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Stats rarely tell the whole story.

 

Especially for a TE who is part of an offense loaded with WR talent. Unlike guys like Kittle, Waller, Andrews, Pitts, etc who are their QBs #1 option.

 

The way Knox played last year was like a top-5 TE. If he keeps it up, he's a top-5 TE, even with those stats.

 

We'll see what the OC change to Dorsey who lived and died by his TEs does for him. I'm also more confident with Knox than some others that he'd give the Bills the Milano/Dawkins/White type of discount. He'll get paid but it will be a fair team deal.

 

 

Cool if he produces I will decide if I would extend him. Right now would not be my priority. If anything he likely goes the Gesicki route and gets Tagged. 
 

that is how I would deal with Knox at this point. At end of the day cannot pay everyone. and because of that IMO this is going to be Poyers last year as a Bill as well. (Best case) may not even make it into the year. 

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24 minutes ago, Putin said:

Are we playing the Vikings at home or on the road ? Regardless I expect to see Diggs get targeted more then a dozen times !!! 

 

The Bills play GB and MIN at home. CHI and DET on the road this year.

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4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Cool if he produces I will decide if I would extend him. Right now would not be my priority. If anything he likely goes the Gesicki route and gets Tagged. 
 

that is how I would deal with Knox at this point. At end of the day cannot pay everyone. and because of that IMO this is going to be Poyers last year as a Bill as well. (Best case) may not even make it into the year. 

Yeah I agree you wait and see with Knox. I do agree with @DrDawkinstein he did a hell of a job last season. Made one of the biggest improvements anyone could hope for and did play like a top TE.

 

My thing is I just want to see that level of play will roll over to this upcoming season. Basically would hope to see consistency and not end up being one of those 1 season and drop off typethings

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2 hours ago, Motor26 said:


If they don’t get a Super Bowl in that 7 year window then maybe they really are cursed.

The new stadium will be off the Indian burial grounds so that's one less curse to worry about in that time frame. 

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3 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

 

I haven't seen anywhere just yet myself unless I missed it....

 

 

 

Spotrac still doesn't have T Jones listed yet so could be awhile!! LOL

 

Have to say, kind of shocked that Ryan Bates hit this year is only $3.5 mil, about $1 mil over the tender.  Bears didn't make it very hard to match.

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6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Old enough to remember when Mario Williams contract was a big deal - that stuff is ground up and in the freezer now

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8 hours ago, davefan66 said:

No way they would break up Josh and Diggs and not tick off Josh.  No way they were doing to trade him.

 

Glad to see they got it done!

 

Edit:  I bet this creates some salary cap room.  Nothing to run out and buy another FA, just breathing room to sign draft class and take care of in season signings.

Diggs was off the Spotrac list qhen this was announced.  I assume Beane intended this would ear some cap space. Steven Nelson? Jwrry Hughes? On a cheap one year deal? Hughes has been a great guy and I would love to see him help win a Super Bowl 

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4 minutes ago, Georgie said:

Diggs was off the Spotrac list qhen this was announced.  I assume Beane intended this would ear some cap space. Steven Nelson? Jwrry Hughes? On a cheap one year deal? Hughes has been a great guy and I would love to see him help win a Super Bowl 

 

Steven Nelson maybe. Jerry Hughes, no.

 

I get the idea of wanting him to be on the team to see a Championship. But you have to think of it this way, it's a lot to ask for him to come back for literal pennies on the dollar. We're not going to pay much for the kind of role he'd have on this team. It's a lot to ask for him to go from being a Starter to a rotational guy seeing minimal snaps behind Miller and Rousseau. It's a lot to ask for him to come back and go from the Defensive Captain for the better part of a decade and unquestioned leader in the DE room to being a guy in the background to King Von.

 

And that's another wrinkle of this. I think the Von move screamed a changing of the guard. They want Von to be the leader in that room. I don't think the team wants the shadow of Jerry Hughes looming over that. And it wouldn't shock me if Von wouldn't want that either.

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Schopp and the Bulldog constantly harping on the “go for it” mentality and our window… I’m so sick of hearing about this tbh.  
 

Our window is for however long Josh Allen is here.  
 

“But what about it Von and Diggs decline in a few years… ok, and?   Miller has an out after 3 years.   We’ll see how Diggs is structured.  
 

Enough… KC isn’t closing their window this year to reset because they traded Tyreek Hill,.. it’s simply asset re-allocation. 

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1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Schopp and the Bulldog constantly harping on the “go for it” mentality and our window… I’m so sick of hearing about this tbh.  
 

Our window is for however long Josh Allen is here.  
 

“But what about it Von and Diggs decline in a few years… ok, and?   Miller has an out after 3 years.   We’ll see how Diggs is structured.  
 

Enough… KC isn’t closing their window this year to reset because they traded Tyreek Hill,.. it’s simply asset re-allocation. 

Yea but there is a special window in which your QB's money hasn't fully kicked in. That is what rhey are talking about. The time when you can go crazy just to get the best possible outcome. 

 

 

After that you will need to rely on drafting well.

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1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Stats rarely tell the whole story.

 

Especially for a TE who is part of an offense loaded with WR talent. Unlike guys like Kittle, Waller, Andrews, Pitts, etc who are their QBs #1 option.

 

The way Knox played last year was like a top-5 TE. If he keeps it up, he's a top-5 TE, even with those stats.

 

We'll see what the OC change to Dorsey who lived and died by his TEs does for him. I'm also more confident with Knox than some others that he'd give the Bills the Milano/Dawkins/White type of discount. He'll get paid but it will be a fair team deal.

 

 

I agree with most of this but I doubt the number of targets will go up due to the addition of Howard, Allen starting to throw to Singletary, (hopefully) emergence of Davis and (presumably) the addition of a fast rookie. 

 

We should be comfortable with the fact that we won't ever have a "top 5" TE as defined by yards and TDs. And in a balanced offense with gobs of receiving talent, that is perfectly fine. 

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7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

When I first saw this I thought is was going to be a stat Cowherd showed today. The Bill’s five highest paid players are: QB, Edge, WR, CB and LT. ALL of the key positions. 

 

The Patriots five highest paid players are a LB (Judon - a good player), then a couple TE’s and a couple so-so WR’s. 

 

Which team do you think has better managed their salary cap in today’s game? Hats off to Beane & company! 

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1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

The “Diva” label came from Min with the Trade. And why he is using it here and putting in quotes. 

 

Yep.  It was also brought up by Schrager in the GMFB clip SlimShady'sSpaceForce shared as well, so it was probably fresh in T. Brown's mind after getting his GMFB fix this morning.  

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18 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Yea but there is a special window in which your QB's money hasn't fully kicked in. That is what rhey are talking about. The time when you can go crazy just to get the best possible outcome. 

 

 

After that you will need to rely on drafting well.

I have a feeling in 2-3 years his deal is going to look like a drop in the bucket related to cap hit.  From everything I have seen the cap should have been around 260m this year pre-covid.  They expect them to get to that point by next season plus the new TV contracts could push it closer to 300m.

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43 minutes ago, Georgie said:

Diggs was off the Spotrac list qhen this was announced.  I assume Beane intended this would ear some cap space. Steven Nelson? Jwrry Hughes? On a cheap one year deal? Hughes has been a great guy and I would love to see him help win a Super Bowl 


We need cap space for in season signings.  I believe a few years ago we had trouble doing so.  
 

I would love to see Hughes come back.  Dude can still play.  Wouldn’t need to be a 2 or 3 down guy, just pin the ears back and rush the passer.  Would love to see him end his career here with some nice hardware!

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2 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Beane unlike predecessors does not need to take his advice if he does not want it.

 

Beane: Jim stop raising your hand and please go sit in corner until I call you.

 

Ryan Fitzpatrick called it best in Fred Jackson's roast when he called him a Jauron but he used his first name instead.

Nope. Jim’s sole function is cap management, Beane knows it, and is reliant upon it. Jim wouldn’t be there if his role was to simply sit in the corner if Beane doesn’t want his help. Beane not only wants that help, he needs that help. 

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