Baker Mayfield says goodbye to Cleveland (update - Traded to Panthers)

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

43 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Yep, that draft class of 2018 was a big disappointment QB wise, wasn't it. 😁

 

Overall it was, other than Allen and Jackson.  And Jackson is a bit questionable IMO.  Not sure if his early success was solely because defenses didn't yet know how to play him?  Now they've figure him out.

 

So the one guy who was by many likely to be the biggest failure is arguably one of the top 5 players in the league and could be the best very soon if not already.

[DCbillsfan]

29 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I think they balance each other out. We already saw what happens when they mix another choir boy with him. Reich could use a little of Mayfield's fire, and Mayfield could use a little of Reich's humbleness.

 

edit: If Reich can work with 1980s Jim Kelly, he can DEFINITELY handle Baker Mayfield.

 

 

Mayfield may go to Colts but Reich ate a lot of crow re Wentz.  I don't think Frank will be leading the charge for Baker.

Edited March 17, 2022 by DCbillsfan

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, DCbillsfan said:

Mayfield may go to Colts but Reich ate a lot of crow re Wentz.  I don't think Frank will be leading the charge for Baker.

 

I dont think he is either. Indy has been mentioned as a landing spot for Mayfield for a week now. I doubt that comes from Reich or only Reich.

 

My post you quoted was only about how they'd be able to work together. Not that Reich is pushing for it.

[RaoulDuke79]

Not a huge Baker fan. But after that Mortensen tweet saying they wanted an "adult " QB, how else could this end. Browns are a terrible organization. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Captain Hindsight]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

 

Darnold for Baker straight up

[Inigo Montoya]

38 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

 

He escalated everything now.

 

Whatever team he goes to he will be a distraction, no debate about that.  Former #1 pick Heisman trophy winner.  Gugny is correct, he should have kept his mouth shut.  That tweet will end up costing the Borwns and himself a lot.  And the Browns FO is incredibly inept with how they handled this.

 

I think it's a generational thing.  I'm not a Boomer but close, I'm a Gen Xer and for some young people, things don't happen, things aren't real until they are posted on social media.  The term "Facebook Official" comes to mind about dating.

 

For Baker the idea of not commenting on something like this on social media is anathema.  Kind of like Cole with his COVID stance on Twitter.  I personally feel no need to share details of my life with strangers on the internet.  I'm not saying one view is right and one is wrong, it's just one of the big differences between generations where one grew up with rotary dial phones and one grew up cutting their teeth on iPhones. 

[MRW]

38 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

Discussed exploring acquiring? What, are they going to form a committee to research investigating possibly offering a trade?

[chongli]

On 3/15/2022 at 7:30 PM, BuffaloRebound said:

Moral of the story… don’t be a national commercial pitch-man before your play on the field backs it up.  

 

Faker Playfield??

[GaryPinC]

40 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Bro they escalated it first by going for Watson and being sketchy.

 

Eff the Browns. They deserve another 15 years of being a poverty franchise. 

I honestly feel Stefanski and the FO's refusal to shut Mayfield down last year played into(escalated) this situation.  He shouldn't have been on the field the second half of the season if not sooner:

 

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/sports/pro/browns/2022/01/05/browns-injury-update-baker-mayfield-playing-hurt-was-small-miracle-shoulder-surgery-case-keenum/9071999002/

 

"Mayfield suffered a completely torn labrum and fraying in his left, non-throwing shoulder in Week 2 while attempting to make a tackle on an interception return versus the Houston Texans. Mayfield played through shoulder issues — he also suffered a fractured humerus bone in Week 6 — wore a harness to prevent it from repeatedly dislocating and also dealt with lower-body injuries (left heel, right knee, groin) throughout the season."

 

I'm not the biggest fan of him, but after the labrum tear his accuracy was uncharacteristically way off.  Mobility and throwing angles also hampered.  I think most Browns fans know Stefanski should have made the call.  The guy was a mess and fought through it all, I respect him for that at least.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[QCity]

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

12 minutes ago, MRW said:

Discussed exploring acquiring? What, are they going to form a committee to research investigating possibly offering a trade?

Remember how Fraser and Niles Crane used to phrase the simplest thoughts in the most complicated way?  Goes with the territory. 😁

[Freddie's Dead]

You're the starting QB for an NFL team.  You have a torn labrum in your non-throwing shoulder, but instead of going on IR and getting surgery like you should, you tough it out.  Management tells you after the season that you're their guy, yet a contract extension is not forthcoming.  You have to watch as the team tries to land human excrement in Watson, so you send a tweet thanking the fans and request a trade.  For that, Baker Mayfield is getting the crap kicked out of him in this thread.  The Browns told Mayfield exactly what they thought of him when they went after that POS Watson.  What would you have him do, stay in Cleveland and take whatever ***** they send his way?  Baker Mayfield did not create the situation, the Browns ownership and FO did.  The hate he's getting here is ridiculous.

[RalphWilson'sNewWar]

11 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

You're the starting QB for an NFL team.  You have a torn labrum in your non-throwing shoulder, but instead of going on IR and getting surgery like you should, you tough it out.  Management tells you after the season that you're their guy, yet a contract extension is not forthcoming.  You have to watch as the team tries to land human excrement in Watson, so you send a tweet thanking the fans and request a trade.  For that, Baker Mayfield is getting the crap kicked out of him in this thread.  The Browns told Mayfield exactly what they thought of him when they went after that POS Watson.  What would you have him do, stay in Cleveland and take whatever ***** they send his way?  Baker Mayfield did not create the situation, the Browns ownership and FO did.  The hate he's getting here is ridiculous.

1.) Bakers play is inconsistent.  Despite personal feelings many have on him…if he was winning…people would still hate him, but they wouldn’t talk.  He’s down now so it’s easy to pounce.

 

2.) Baker…doesn’t play or carry himself the way media/fans “romanticize” a player should carry/play…and that makes them hate him all the more.

[Captain Hindsight]

7 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

You're the starting QB for an NFL team.  You have a torn labrum in your non-throwing shoulder, but instead of going on IR and getting surgery like you should, you tough it out.  Management tells you after the season that you're their guy, yet a contract extension is not forthcoming.  You have to watch as the team tries to land human excrement in Watson, so you send a tweet thanking the fans and request a trade.  For that, Baker Mayfield is getting the crap kicked out of him in this thread.  The Browns told Mayfield exactly what they thought of him when they went after that POS Watson.  What would you have him do, stay in Cleveland and take whatever ***** they send his way?  Baker Mayfield did not create the situation, the Browns ownership and FO did.  The hate he's getting here is ridiculous.

I mean nobody looks great here. Baker and Stefanski weren’t exactly friendly to each other in the media at the end of the season. Baker does have prickly personality and seems to clash with teammates and coaches. Browns openly pursuing another QB then turning back to Baker after telling Mort he isn’t an “adult” is a bad look. 
 

I don’t blame Baker for wanting out. I also don’t think that solves his problem of being a QB that hasn’t gotten it done. 
 

Browns will probably have to trade him and now have to try to have a viable option either in FA or in the draft. The musical QB chair is winding down and the Browns could be left with Mariota or Andy Dalton two years after being one 4th down stop from the AFC Championship game 

[filthymcnasty08]

Enjoy Jimmy G Cleveland.

 

Well played!

[LeGOATski]

Baker should do the Mitch and come backup Josh for cheap. We can do this each year for failed 1st round QBs.

[Brennan Huff]

2 hours ago, Steptide said:

Man am I happy we drafted allen. I fully admit I was on the Rosen train, but I am so glad I was wrong. We got the best qb in that draft. 

I was on the Mayfield train…

[Mojo44]

2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Baker should do the Mitch and come backup Josh for cheap. We can do this each year for failed 1st round QBs.

FREE BAKER!!!

[Doc]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

And the “adult” is someone who sexually assaults women.  Awesome. 

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, Brennan Huff said:

I was on the Mayfield train…

Unfortunately I was also...however I will say I'm happy to admit I wasn't as bad as many because I had Allen 2nd when many had Rosen at #1 or Darnold lol. I had Allen above Darnold and Rosen. 

 

In any event, so many had it wrong from fans to majority of media. Mayock(?) I believe it was was one of the few that was high on Allen

[Beast]

3 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Unfortunately I was also...however I will say I'm happy to admit I wasn't as bad as many because I had Allen 2nd when many had Rosen at #1 or Darnold lol. I had Allen above Darnold and Rosen. 

 

In any event, so many had it wrong from fans to majority of media. Mayock(?) I believe it was was one of the few that was high on Allen

 

Mel Kiper had Allen rated as the top QB.

[YoloinOhio]

Ouch

Edited March 17, 2022 by YoloinOhio

[Patrick Duffy]

5 minutes ago, Beast said:

 

Mel Kiper had Allen rated as the top QB.

Ah ok. Don't know why I was thinking it was Mayock... Thanks

[Patrick Duffy]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ouch

Lol, obviously top priority for Bengals, no surprise there. But man the Browns are a real piece of work....I imagine their fans emotions are all over the place. In one hand, they probably like, "knew it wouldn't take long for Browns to screw everything up again".....

 

Then maybe , "one decent season getting to 2nd round of playoffs giving just a small taste of success and finally future looks bright was too much" 

 

It was tough being a Bills fan for along time, but man the Browns may be worse for sure at this point lol

 

Hang in there Browns fans!!

[FLFan]

1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said:

 

I think it's a generational thing.  I'm not a Boomer but close, I'm a Gen Xer and for some young people, things don't happen, things aren't real until they are posted on social media.  The term "Facebook Official" comes to mind about dating.

 

For Baker the idea of not commenting on something like this on social media is anathema.  Kind of like Cole with his COVID stance on Twitter.  I personally feel no need to share details of my life with strangers on the internet.  I'm not saying one view is right and one is wrong, it's just one of the big differences between generations where one grew up with rotary dial phones and one grew up cutting their teeth on iPhones. 

I think you make a good point, but I also think it is more than that.  Baker has always had a sense of self entitlement.  I think generally there is an over abundance of that in our current social structure.  Not sure of exactly how we got there, and I certainly would not assert that it is necessary representative of a particular generation, but I would assert that it is all too prevalent in today's society.  Taking responsibility for one's own success and failure and actions seems to be a quaint anachronistic concept anymore.  That is Baker in my opinion.  Why not just recognize your part in the situation (he has played poorly after all) , keep your feelings to yourself, take the high road and work toward getting what you want.  I really do not care how he "feels" about anything, but I do now think he a bigger jerk than I thought before, despite the fact that Browns behaved rather badly here as well.   I am really happy he is not our problem as he will never be an adequate leader IMO.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, Draconator said:

Let the standoff commence

 

 

 

Also reported by Garafolo:

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Making poor decisions 

 

 

It felt time for a rehash.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Ouch

 

 

 

☘️🍻

[Warcodered]

 

[HurlyBurly51]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

 

Mel Kiper had Allen rated as the top QB.

 

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Also reported by Garafolo:

 

 

Well he's understandably upset but I think he will have no choice but to play. Unless he's pissed enough to hold out.

[Malazan]

I'm getting the feeling that Houston is gonna end up being unable to trade Watson...again. 

[BuffaloBills1998]

5 minutes ago, Malazan said:

I'm getting the feeling that Houston is gonna end up being unable to trade Watson...again. 

Actually I wouldn’t doubt it Watson decided to sit this season and wait for a better team to offer him. 

[Big Turk]

Browns acting like little b!tches and deny the request. They are the ones who caused the issues by actively and openly trying to get Watson.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Well he's understandably upset but I think he will have no choice but to play. Unless he's pissed enough to hold out.

 

Er…didn’t you just say “he will have no choice but to play, unless he chooses not to play”?

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Browns acting like little b!tches and deny the request. They are the ones who caused the issues by actively and openly trying to get Watson.

Lol, yeah Browns put themselves in this situation for sure. They pretty much had to deny it  since their plan blew up. I guess they figure they will try an smooth things over at some point and sweet talk Baker with some BS lol

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Er…didn’t you just say “he will have no choice but to play, unless he chooses not to play”?

Lol, yeah guess I kinda did....worded that all jacked up. Was trying to say I think he plays and won't hold out basically lol

[CSBill]

11 hours ago, Doc said:

And the “adult” is someone who sexually assaults women.  Awesome. 

 

Exactly.

 

The idiots here are the Browns organization and leadership (sorry, that's a misuse of the word leadership: correction, "anti-leadership"). 

 

I'm not a Baker Mayfield fan, but he is not the problem here. And after watching all this play-out, what QB in his right mind would want to go there? . . . Contrast that with what we are seeing in Buffalo now; HOF players maneuvering to come here. Cleveland Browns = Joke