YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Anyone notice him the last couple games and if he’s been a factor? I admittedly didn’t. Interesting wrinkle. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Anyone notice him the last couple games and if he’s been a factor? I admittedly didn’t. Interesting wrinkle. Yea, he was out sealing the edge last week on one of Allen’s TD runs to the left. Love seeing him getting some time in there. He is so big but displays agility that’s impressive for a man his size. I noticed him last night a couple of times, one of which was him brushing the front of his jersey, signaling to the ref he would be lining up as an eligible receiver. The ref then announces that to the defense. Edited January 10, 2022 by atlbillsfan1975 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I've seen him out there but haven't noticed him. Best compliment a young OLman can get IMO. I'm thinking they try and throw him a pass this week or next (providing we make it) much like they have done with Dawkins before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I’m glad that he’s getting some experience out there and he seems to be making a difference. Iirc he had 1 (maybe 2 penalties) and almost had another for going Morton Downey Jr on someone after the play. Doyle was fired up It would be nice if we had a TE2 worthy of being active. Are we the only team in the league that only dresses 1 TE weekly? I hope he’s been practicing some routes and they have some trickery planned for these playoff games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I noticed his holding penalty that killed a drive, I think in the 3rd Q. Any way to get him snaps is good I guess. I much prefer Beane find a better TE#2 and move on from Sweeney. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I noticed him a couple times - one being salty after the play (in a good way). I couldnt figure out why he was playing - at one point I thought Dawkins got hurt or something 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Had to do something to give the running game a boost with that & the use of our 1 FB maybe thats why motor has been doing a bit better i just hope they can keep it up !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I noticed him fighting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Good job, Daboll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: I noticed him fighting Was he part of that scrum or was this a separate fight btw I think he is a former hockey player so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said: I've seen him out there but haven't noticed him. Best compliment a young OLman can get IMO. I'm thinking they try and throw him a pass this week or next (providing we make it) much like they have done with Dawkins before. He had a couple of penalties. Holding I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, stevewin said: I noticed him a couple times - one being salty after the play (in a good way). I couldnt figure out why he was playing - at one point I thought Dawkins got hurt or something That was my reaction, too. I figured someone was dinged up but this explains it. He and Brown are giants out there. Strength guys will have a field day in the offseason with these two horses. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Spencer Brown was a home run pick, and if Doyle works out as well that's a really good OL draft this year. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said: Spencer Brown was a home run pick, and if Doyle works out as well that's a really good OL draft this year. Had the Eagles not stoled Jack Anderson (he started for them at OC the season finale) this would have been a good foundation for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 All I remember is the holding penalty (yawn). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Yeah I noticed he was out there a bunch yesterday. He's basically our Lee Smith now. Granted, he presents zero threat to run a pattern or catch a pass, but he's a capable extra blocker. It's kind of funny to me, actually. After the Bills struggled with run blocking and pass protection all season, Daboll was finally just like "***** it, we're bringing in an extra tackle." It also helps explain us only having one true tight end active the past few weeks. If, heaven forbid, Knox ever goes down with injury mid-game....yikes. It's Gilliam city. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, Fixxxer said: Had the Eagles not stoled Jack Anderson (he started for them at OC the season finale) this would have been a good foundation for years to come. If he turns out to be good…..starting a game because their starter was resting doesn’t really mean much. I thought he had some potential, but he hasn’t shown he can play yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I think people are making to much of it. He is playing the role Bates played before becoming our guard - he is the extra lineman brought in. The increase emphasis on running has given him extra snaps the last 2 games and he does play with nice strength and a bit of an attitude. He drove a jet defender to the turf yesterday and then got into a nice scrum with the player. He also had a penalty - I believe - and missed a least one block on the outside. He is less athletic than Bates, but Brown, Doyle, and Williams on the right side is a lot of beef and attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 The Brown and Doyle picks have me hoping that we're over the "slimmed down" guys phase and will value size. In this draft I want a DT who when he walks into the room people think there's an earthquake happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, TheFunPolice said: The Brown and Doyle picks have me hoping that we're over the "slimmed down" guys phase and will value size. In this draft I want a DT who when he walks into the room people think there's an earthquake happening. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, NewEra said: If he turns out to be good…..starting a game because their starter was resting doesn’t really mean much. I thought he had some potential, but he hasn’t shown he can play yet. of course, time will tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Wait for tackle eligible against pats 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Yeah, seems like he really would take the d to another level, he will only be there for us when we pick if he runs poorly at the combine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just now, 4BillsintheBurgh said: Yeah, seems like he really would take the d to another level, he will only be there for us when we pick if he runs poorly at the combine. Even then, you probably have to trade up, but it might be close enough to think about. (I don't think he'll run poorly, though.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 43 minutes ago, Fixxxer said: Had the Eagles not stoled Jack Anderson (he started for them at OC the season finale) this would have been a good foundation for years to come. Yeah, if Doyle Pan’s out, then they’re set at OT for the prime of Allen’s career. They will need another G and Morse’s replacement, but it’s possible Bates moves to C eventually. Had they kept Teller instead of Spain, they’d be in great shape. That said, Beane and co seem pretty good at finding OL in rounds 3 and later. Ford was R2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Even then, you probably have to trade up, but it might be close enough to think about. (I don't think he'll run poorly, though.) Neither do I. Plays like we wish Star would play. Him, Oliver, Harry and Zimmer would be a strong rotation. Edited January 10, 2022 by 4BillsintheBurgh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Bob in STL said: I noticed his holding penalty that killed a drive, I think in the 3rd Q. Any way to get him snaps is good I guess. I much prefer Beane find a better TE#2 and move on from Sweeney. Using Doyle at TE to help in the run game has been understated. Knox was pretty bad in that area 7 minutes ago, TPS said: Yeah, if Doyle Pan’s out, then they’re set at OT for the prime of Allen’s career. They will need another G and Morse’s replacement, but it’s possible Bates moves to C eventually. Had they kept Teller instead of Spain, they’d be in great shape. That said, Beane and co seem pretty good at finding OL in rounds 3 and later. Ford was R2. Leave Bates at guard, draft a center. 12 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said: Yeah, seems like he really would take the d to another level, he will only be there for us when we pick if he runs poorly at the combine. I like Jones(UCONN) and Ika(Baylor) later in draft. Get Josh some younger playmakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I like Jones(UCONN) and Ika(Baylor) later in draft. Get Josh some younger playmakers I've always said that once you have a playoff caliber team it's a decent time to go for a top TE in the first round. Most of your team has pretty good talent and a TE can help you get over the top. I guess I'm not sold on Knox as the only guy yet because he can't root people out while blocking, he's more of a get in their way blocker. Which I think is why Doyle has been able to step into the lineup. That said, if there is a TE who can both block and get down the seam (aka has a high enough RAS score, ha,ha) I'm fine with taking him in the first round. I think a two TE set will help our running game and our passing game. I can see them taking a wr also. I thought Gabe was a little shaky yesterday, I saw Diggs getting him lined up once and there seemed to be a couple of wrong reads/patterns too. I'm guessing that's why Sanders plays more than Davis, and if that's the case in Davis' second year it might be the staff doesn't trust him yet and they may commit a high draft pick to a wr this coming draft. It's nice to have first world problems instead of what we had during the drought. Edited January 10, 2022 by 4BillsintheBurgh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Was he part of that scrum or was this a separate fight btw I think he is a former hockey player so It wasn't the big bust up, it was a separate play where he carried on going at it with someone after the play. I like to see that kind of spirit in a player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Just threw him a TD thus morning. He trucked 3 guys in from the 5. Glad to see he's getting his feet wet. Between him and Brown they have a couple road graders for the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: Leave Bates at guard, draft a center. I recall reading an article about Bates and how he was focused on C, hoping to take over after Morse goes. If he can be a good C, it's a lot easier to find guards in the draft, so why not? At any rate, I trust Beane will continue to ensure the Bills meet their needs going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, TPS said: I recall reading an article about Bates and how he was focused on C, hoping to take over after Morse goes. If he can be a good C, it's a lot easier to find guards in the draft, so why not? At any rate, I trust Beane will continue to ensure the Bills meet their needs going forward. I mean either way need another Guard and someone to back up at center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I love the idea of 6 linemen on the field at once. We seemingly have great depth at this position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I think we should just teach Doyle how to run routes and catch and make him our TE2. He’s already better than Sweeney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 this was our pick after spencer brown, right? iirc, if we didn't draft brown everyone would be talking about what an absolute ahthletic freak this kid is. he was down from brown, who by many accounts is the most athletic OT ever measured, but he's like top 1% of athletic tackles ever tho. i think we got so bloody rocked by the pats w the extra lineman (in that we knew what they were doing, prolly knew the exact play half the time, but still got trucked often enough) that we stole the idea. it can set up some play action too, or even just a qb keeper. Good to have an extra look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 hours ago, TheFunPolice said: The Brown and Doyle picks have me hoping that we're over the "slimmed down" guys phase and will value size. In this draft I want a DT who when he walks into the room people think there's an earthquake happening. To be fair we've drafted behemoths like Cody Ford in the second round. 6'4 330 And teller 6'4 320 Brought in Star ... A huge end in Rousseau Oliver is small for a DT but is playing like a top 10 pick.. he has been our best d lineman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Logic said: Yeah I noticed he was out there a bunch yesterday. He's basically our Lee Smith now. Granted, he presents zero threat to run a pattern or catch a pass, but he's a capable extra blocker. It's kind of funny to me, actually. After the Bills struggled with run blocking and pass protection all season, Daboll was finally just like "***** it, we're bringing in an extra tackle." It also helps explain us only having one true tight end active the past few weeks. If, heaven forbid, Knox ever goes down with injury mid-game....yikes. It's Gilliam city. I actually think he might be a better pass catcher than lee smith. On draft night I though brown could be the smith replacement and after checking his measurements were better than lee smith. I suspect Doyle is also faster. I love that they have moved to getting the best 11 guys out there and if that includes 6OL then so be it. I also have thought Knox has been a much better blocker this year. Particularly the falcons game (granted they are not world beaters). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, colin said: this was our pick after spencer brown, right? iirc, if we didn't draft brown everyone would be talking about what an absolute ahthletic freak this kid is. he was down from brown, who by many accounts is the most athletic OT ever measured, but he's like top 1% of athletic tackles ever tho. i think we got so bloody rocked by the pats w the extra lineman (in that we knew what they were doing, prolly knew the exact play half the time, but still got trucked often enough) that we stole the idea. it can set up some play action too, or even just a qb keeper. Good to have an extra look. The Bills have been using an extra lineman on unique occasions all year. Mainly, Bates. Doyle has inherited the role with Bates’ move to full-time employment. I do think they have gone to it more in the last quarter of the season. Edited January 10, 2022 by CSBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 One thing you have to give credit to this coaching staff is they seem to maximize their roster and work everyone into the lineup. Unfortunately some times that means too much flip flopping on the inactive list each week or wasting reps on guys that just aren't cutting it, but it's nice to see guys like Doyle get some action after sitting pretty much the first 3/4 of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 11 hours ago, CSBill said: The Bills have been using an extra lineman on unique occasions all year. Mainly, Bates. Doyle has inherited the role with Bates’ move to full-time employment. I do think they have gone to it more in the last quarter of the season. ya, when i see them bring one in and keep him in for a few consecutive plays, i figure its growing on them now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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