Week 16: Bills at Pats - DISCUSSION

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They're missing a lot on offense. Still have their OL though.

So far......

[Magox]

I think from a mental and psychological standpoint, things are aligning for a good performance from the Bills.   I think they will play with urgency right off of the bat and I would expect for Josh to do everything in his power to lead the Bills to victory which most likely includes a lot of running off of scrambles and tosses, called running plays and non called runs.

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

One down…

 

 

 

Please make it so.

[Success]

Everyone has to have a great game.  Players like McKenzie have to step up. We can't have dumb penalties.  We need to win the turnover battle.

 

You deal w/ reality.  No sense getting all spilt milk about it.  Beat the Patriots, and win the division.

 

[par73]

When is the last time the Bills actually won a game like this-- with everything on the line? And now they are missing important chunks of their offense.  I need a confidence booster.

[transplantbillsfan]

Can we just not get anymore players on the list? Or at least no more starters?

 

Right now with the players out for NE (Bourne, Agholor, Stevenson, anyone else...?) I view our losses of Beas, Davis and Dawkins as a wash. 

 

But if we lose any of Diggs, Sanders, Knox, or Singletary on offense we're in big trouble.

 

Notice the player on offense I didn't mention... that's because I believe we might as well forfeit the season if we lose him and I don't want to tempt fate even saying his name. My Christmas will be full of a bit of background anxiety hoping he stays off the Covid list.

[Albwan]

   I love the Bills, but Sunday is the end of their season. They have a monumental

task ahead ahead of them for next year.

[Process]

Have we heard anything at all on Dawkins? We really need him back for this game. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Can we just not get anymore players on the list? Or at least no more starters?

 

Right now with the players out for NE (Bourne, Agholor, Stevenson, anyone else...?) I view our losses of Beas, Davis and Dawkins as a wash. 

 

But if we lose any of Diggs, Sanders, Knox, or Singletary on offense we're in big trouble.

 

Notice the player on offense I didn't mention... that's because I believe we might as well forfeit the season if we lose him and I don't want to tempt fate even saying his name. My Christmas will be full of a bit of background anxiety hoping he stays off the Covid list.

I don’t see that as a wash at all…josh has the arm talent to make pretty much any receiver look good and mac very much does not.   Nfl won’t test josh they ‘randomly’ choose vaccinated players to test and they want to keep makin that $$$ so it won’t hit too many big name vaccinated qbs imo 

13 minutes ago, Albwan said:

   I love the Bills, but Sunday is the end of their season. They have a monumental

task ahead ahead of them for next year.

How…10-7 more than likely gets us in if we lose 

[Dr.Sack]

25 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I don’t see that as a wash at all…josh has the arm talent to make pretty much any receiver look good and mac very much does not.   Nfl won’t test josh they ‘randomly’ choose vaccinated players to test and they want to keep makin that $$$ so it won’t hit too many big name vaccinated qbs imo 

How…10-7 more than likely gets us in if we lose 

You realize on most ESPN NFL playoff machine scenarios putting Cincy, Ravens, and Bills at 10-7, the Bills get edged by Ravens and / or Cincy. Assuming Colts and Chargers finish 10-7 or better. Going 10-7 is no guarantee. Best scenario is Ravens beat Cincy this week, and Cincys loses at home vs Chiefs (most likely). Tyler Huntley better be ready this week. And that also assumes, the Bills can beat the Falcons with a shorthanded roster. 

Edited December 24, 2021 by Dr.Sack

[HalftimeAdjustment]

50 minutes ago, Process said:

Have we heard anything at all on Dawkins? We really need him back for this game. 

 

No, other than he hasn't been back in time to practice. So either he is sick or facing a recurring stream of positive tests.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Bobby Hart our hero.

[Jeffbigalls]

2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Can we just not get anymore players on the list? Or at least no more starters?

 

Right now with the players out for NE (Bourne, Agholor, Stevenson, anyone else...?) I view our losses of Beas, Davis and Dawkins as a wash. 

 

But if we lose any of Diggs, Sanders, Knox, or Singletary on offense we're in big trouble.

 

Notice the player on offense I didn't mention... that's because I believe we might as well forfeit the season if we lose him and I don't want to tempt fate even saying his name. My Christmas will be full of a bit of background anxiety hoping he stays off the Covid list.

Stevenson out is big 

Edited December 24, 2021 by Jeffbigalls

[Golden]

5 minutes ago, Jeffbigalls said:

Stevenson has not been ruled out

Sal Capaccio 

@SalSports

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38m

Patriots officially rule out both WR Nelson Agholor and RB Rhamondre Stevenson against Bills. Their list of questionable players is lengthy. WR Kendrick Bourne is also still on the Covid list.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I really am wondering what the bills

do with the oline. I know it is not popular, but the idea of just having Doyle or Bates at LT makes more sense than shifting 3 guys to weaken 3 positions on the line. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

15 minutes ago, Jeffbigalls said:

Stevenson out is big 

Bourne would be huge also. They aren't deep at WR. 

Stevenson has covid.

[Golden]

21 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I really am wondering what the bills

do with the oline. I know it is not popular, but the idea of just having Doyle or Bates at LT makes more sense than shifting 3 guys to weaken 3 positions on the line. 

Matt Parrino

@MattParrino

· 1h

What I think o-line could look like on Sunday: LT- Bobby Hart LG- Ike Boettger C- Mitch Morse RG- Daryl Williams RT- Spencer Brown

 

[NewEra]

With Ford now being out and Daryl Williams a liability @ RT and Brown being a terrible LT, I’d go with Hart-Ike-Morse- Daryl-brown and I’d have Knox chipping on every pass. Running a few 2TE sets with Sweeney blocking and chipping would switch things up and could help.  Sucks that sweeney is our only option….. 🤦🏻‍♂️ 

[Stank_Nasty]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

With Ford now being out and Daryl Williams a liability @ RT and Brown being a terrible LT, I’d go with Hart-Ike-Morse- Daryl-brown and I’d have Knox chipping on every pass. Running a few 2TE sets with Sweeney blocking and chipping would switch things up and could help.  Sucks that sweeney is our only option….. 🤦🏻‍♂️ 

Might make sense. This way at least 3/5 of the could potentially perform well as opposed to possibly none. Lol. 

[Dr. Who]

Just now, NewEra said:

With Ford now being out and Daryl Williams a liability @ RT and Brown being a terrible LT, I’d go with Hart-Ike-Morse- Daryl-brown and I’d have Knox chipping on every pass. Running a few 2TE sets with Sweeney blocking and chipping would switch things up and could help.  Sucks that sweeney is our only option….. 🤦🏻‍♂️ 

When Bobby Hart at LT is your best option in the most important game of the year . . . 

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

When Bobby Hart at LT is your best option in the most important game of the year . . . 

Agreed.  Scary.  But we have Tommy Doyle….. rejoice

[Locomark]

They have no choice but to line up with Williams and Brown again at the tackles. This just leaves us to hope on Feliciano clearing or we have to play Bates or Doyle inside. I don’t think they play Hart unless another starter goes down. He’s that bad. They may even line up with an H back on 1 side or another just to chip often. Moss will be dressed this week because he is the best protector they have at RB. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Can’t Bates play LT?

[HalftimeAdjustment]

So Stevenson is out for NE. Last game he ran 24 times for 78 yds (3.2 ypc). A big part of their offense but maybe replaceable. How is Harris doing, he had 10 carries for 111yds (11.1 ypc)?

[Success]

10 minutes ago, HalftimeAdjustment said:

So Stevenson is out for NE. Last game he ran 24 times for 78 yds (3.2 ypc). A big part of their offense but maybe replaceable. How is Harris doing, he had 10 carries for 111yds (11.1 ypc)?

 

He was back at practice this week, but limited. He'll definitely play - but it's a hammy, so who knows if he can handle the full load.

 

If they didn't have Harris, they'd be in bad shape. They rely on the running game, and those are their best RB's.

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

50 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Can’t Bates play LT?

Bates can’t play anything apparently. 

2 hours ago, Golden said:

Matt Parrino

@MattParrino

· 1h

What I think o-line could look like on Sunday: LT- Bobby Hart LG- Ike Boettger C- Mitch Morse RG- Daryl Williams RT- Spencer Brown

 

just nuts if they think Hart is a better option than Doyle or Bates, but I guess I trust the coaches. But I agree generally that we should only swap out LT, not LT/RG/RT.

[CSBill]

Hard to imagine Hart at LT, but I guess we’ll go with it. …. And if so, what does that say about what the Coaches think about Bates or Doyle? Yikes.

[finn]

34 minutes ago, CSBill said:

Hard to imagine Hart at LT, but I guess we’ll go with it. …. And if so, what does that say about what the Coaches think about Bates or Doyle? Yikes.

I wonder if Williams is the best choice for left tackle. That leaves Brown at right tackle and Boettger and Bates at guard. Yes, Brown had no time to prepare for left tackle, but he played about as badly as anyone can play over there. 

 

What a mess. 

[HalftimeAdjustment]

Based on the last 10-20 posts in the NEWS thread, the separate threads experiment is not going well. Most of those posts contain "discussion" aka opinion, rather than NEWS.

 

I decided to post this comment here because it is also not news.

[Steptide]

I'm excited/interested to see some of our wide receiver depth step up, but I fear alot of dropped passes and mis communication. These depth guys haven't had alot of playing time and I fear that it'll show. Really need to feed Diggs, Sanders, mckenzie and Knox. Anyone else I say feed them easy passes. Maybe take a deep shot to Stevenson 

[Since1981]

Let’s get rid of the table broke mafia. Let’s go BEER chaser after score…every NFL fan can get behind that !! I think players are ready. I am. 
 

I have $10 and will help pay fine. 

[DapperCam]

We screwed up bad letting Lee Smith go. He was like an extra lineman.

 

Never thought I’d say that…

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

How about:

Bates Boettger Morse Williams Brown

[Coffeesforclosers]

8 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

How about:

Bates Boettger Morse Williams Brown

 

I don't see Bobby Hart or Cody Ford playing, so it looks good to me.

[Rockinon]

We could go with 6 OL men occasionally. Think I read somewhere that we've done that in previous games.

[aristocrat]

Is Dawkins not playing?

[Ray Stonada]

8 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

How about:

Bates Boettger Morse Williams Brown

Strength of this is that Josh loves rolling to the right so we could run designed roll outs to the better side and then mix it up with Singletary running counters to the left where Brown and Williams would pull…

[HalftimeAdjustment]

29 minutes ago, Rockinon said:

We could go with 6 OL men occasionally. Think I read somewhere that we've done that in previous games.

 

If we have 6 OL men who can play, and not get a false start penalty because they never did this before.

[Maynard]

24 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

Is Dawkins not playing?

All we know is he’s on the COVID-19 list and it’s hush hush from there.  I’d like to believe Dawkins can’t be that sick, after already having it once and being fully vaccinated. 🤔 

[CSBill]

9 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

How about:

Bates Boettger Morse Williams Brown

 
That is what I wanted last week, but apparently Bates is not a good option there. Really? Can he be any worse than Brown was? At least with this, everything else is relatively normal.