Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. 2 1 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Merge into post-game thread in 3... 2... 1... But yes, he sucked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. He had a rough night. The expectations are high on him. He was not the problem tonight. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. Diggs dropped an easy touchdown, and on the 3rd and 14, Diggs just flat out stopped on the play, leaving Knox as Josh's only option. If Diggs showed just a little bit of effort, we would have had a 4th and 5. Diggs was just as bad, if not worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Nobody in a Bills uniform had an all pro game when it was most needed. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. Dawson? Sorry man, but I Def didn't see it that way Early in the game on a 3rd and like 14, Josh threw a laser right into his numbers The 1st drop on the 1st drive, hit him in stride, both hands. Not to mention a costly redzone penalty. He did make a couple decent short grabs, but the misses outweighed it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Knox was not why this team lost…. Not even close….all the girls that play defense are why the Jill’s lost 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gravytrain Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Billznut said: Nobody in a Bills uniform had an all pro game when it was most needed. Milano did 1 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. Disagree with those takes, especially on the first pass. I'll have to watch it again, and I know the pass wasn't perfect, but he should have caught that ball IMO. We also needed him to grab that catch in the end zone. Go get the ball and physically dominate space around the ball at the point of contact. He didn't do anything close to that. I really like Knox and he has really blossomed this year, but he had a garbage night. Edit: almost forgot his pre-snap penalty for false start. Edited December 7, 2021 by Nextmanup 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) Knox looked like he was playing drunk 1 minute ago, gordong said: Knox was not why this team lost…. Not even close….all the girls that play defense are why the Jill’s lost He definitely didn't help them win Edited December 7, 2021 by Mrbojanglezs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Yeah, I agree. The defender made a nice play on a couple of those. The only one that was uncontested was the first one, and that one would have been a difficult catch. Disappointing, but doesn't change my opinion that he's becoming a good player for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. He needs to make a big play when he has the chance. The one I am disappointed in the most was the one in the endzone. He is so much bigger and stronger than the DB. You wish he could make a play. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, The Gravytrain said: Milano did No he made two tackles on one series after the head coach told him which gap to attack. 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, gordong said: Knox was not why this team lost…. Not even close….all the girls that play defense are why the Jill’s lost Dude, if he even caught 1 one of the 2 perfect dimes in Pats territory, or not jumped offside on the last drive, that would've helped given the final score lol. Beyond McDermott and the entire Bills run D, he is the single biggest goat of this game and it's not really close Edited December 7, 2021 by buffblue 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said: He needs to make a big play when he has the chance. The one I am disappointed in the most was the one in the endzone. He is so much bigger and stronger than the DB. You wish he could make a play. Yeah I agree. That was the one that I was hoping once he got his hands on it he secures the catch. But you see it all the time. The defender punches the ball out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby Wilde Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Here's my opinion on Dawson Knox tonight and I'll try and keep it as civil as I can. F,,,K H.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Knox is playing like a guy who broke his hand a few weeks ago. Maybe its hurts still, maybe the coordination isnt there, maybe he is gun shy about breaking it again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. We are simply waiting on our version of Gronk/Waller/Kittle/Kelce. That’s all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 false start killed us 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. The first drop? In the 1st quarter? Looked like it hit him in both hands so not sure how it could have only been a “one-handed catch” as you put it. But if you want to be his apologist tonight go ahead I guess? He’s just another guy. I’m happy he’s improved this year but when you start out at an abysmal 19% drop rate, there’s really no where to go but up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Disagree with those takes, especially on the first pass. I'll have to watch it again, and I know the pass wasn't perfect, but he should have caught that ball IMO. We also needed him to grab that catch in the end zone. Go get the ball and physically dominate space around the ball at the point of contact. He didn't do anything close to that. I really like Knox and he has really blossomed this year, but he had a garbage night. Edit: almost forgot his pre-snap penalty for false start. The play in the end zone the fans want PI but when I rewatched it it looked clean if anything Knox pushed off to get open a bit. Don’t know what the fans saw there. Also can someone explain to me the logic of not going for 2 to tie the game at 8? I thought for sure they would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Knox has to go. Trade him this offseason while you can get something for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, gordong said: Knox was not why this team lost…. Not even close….all the girls that play defense are why the Jill’s lost Defense did hold to 14 points. Not excusing them though. Bills needed 15 and needed Knox help 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I'd say he may have costed the team some points with the drops and penalty 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. Are you seriously sticking up for Knox? Like what does Allen have to do throw it underhand to him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. Stop....the first drop was a perfect pass right through both his hands. The deeper ball was in his gut and he dropped that before the DB got a hand in there. The false start was the cherry. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, The Gravytrain said: Milano did It was nice of Matt to show up in the 4th quarter 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Hands were the wrong way to catch the first one (should have caught it). Defense did get hands on the other two, but not enough to prevent someone (him) from not being denied catching it.... needs to get his hands out/away further when he feels that. Needs a more killer, will-not-be-denied-the-ball attitude. He doesn't have it. Then, the stupid penalty. Which was REALLY stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, BuffaloBillies said: Hands were the wrong way to catch the first one (should have caught it). Defense did get hands on the other two, but not enough to prevent someone (him) from not being denied catching it.... needs to get his hands out/away further when he feels that. Needs a more killer, will-not-be-denied-the-ball attitude. He doesn't have it. Then, the stupid penalty. Which was REALLY stupid. Fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Stop blaming the players. This offense is a hot mess. Reliance on low percentage throws is the why this season is going down the crapper. Say what you want about the defense, but except for the Colts game, the defense has given the offense the chance to close out every game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Dawson Knox tonight? Does it need explanation? He's not long for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Maybe I'm not seeing what you are. The first "drop" could have been a one handed grab but the pass could have been better. He was completely stretched out and just barely got a hand on it. The other plays were pass break ups by the defender. He also made some great grabs and one really nice run after catch. Is this his agent? Cuz he sucked A$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 He was clearly held at least 4 times by #21 and didn't get a single call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Welcome to the NFL. If you want to be a franchise player you have to make game changing plays for your team. Tonight he made several game changing plays for the Pats. Cool that he's athletic but I'll take consistency at the TE position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynamemike Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Knox is playing like a guy who broke his hand a few weeks ago. Maybe its hurts still, maybe the coordination isnt there, maybe he is gun shy about breaking it again? Did you see it during his post game interview on thanksgiving? It’s still swollen like a mofo. It’s definitely effecting him but he missed a few big plays tonight for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Dawson Knox tonight? Does it need explanation? He's not long for this team. You really believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: You really believe that? Absolutely. I suspect he'll demand more than #2 TE money. No reason the Bills should pay him that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said: Dawson? Sorry man, but I Def didn't see it that way Early in the game on a 3rd and like 14, Josh threw a laser right into his numbers The 1st drop on the 1st drive, hit him in stride, both hands. Not to mention a costly redzone penalty. He did make a couple decent short grabs, but the misses outweighed it. I thought the false start penalty was pretty ticky-tack. Yeah, that 3rd and 14 right on the numbers that he couldn't haul in was killer. He had more than a couple "decent short grabs", he made a couple clutch catches. But he got beat pretty bad as a blocker to blow up a couple run plays and a screen, and he dropped a couple catches he should have had. But I thought everybody's effort was not what it could have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, Nitro said: He had a rough night. The expectations are high on him. He was not the problem tonight. He was absolutely a problem. He was a difference maker and dropped 3 passes one of which was a TD for not coming back to the ball and playing aggressively. He sucked… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonBillsfan Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said: Dawson? Sorry man, but I Def didn't see it that way Early in the game on a 3rd and like 14, Josh threw a laser right into his numbers The 1st drop on the 1st drive, hit him in stride, both hands. Not to mention a costly redzone penalty. He did make a couple decent short grabs, but the misses outweighed it. With Knox, factor in drops and hope that his completions, outweigh them. He's seems to be improving this year. The false start can't happen in that spot. The team played hard and if Bass makes that kick, the game might have been different. Very tough loss and now there is no room for error. Tampa is on a roll and NE will be tough at home. We probably will need to win one of those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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