NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 While not normally a conspiracy theorist, all bets are off when it comes to games against the evil empire and the current state of league officiating which has been, mildly, putrid this year. Call your shot with how many flags we will be treated to that extend Pats drives on 3rd down Monday! 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: While not normally a conspiracy theorist, all bets are off when it comes to games against the evil empire and the current state of league officiating which has been, mildly, putrid this year. Call your shot with how many flags we will be treated to that extend Pats drives on 3rd down Monday! lol did you see the bit NFL good morning football did? It was hilarious about BB being the emperor and Mac the young apprentice.. I died laughing it was so funny.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 28. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) Edited December 1, 2021 by Draconator 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 My blood is already starting to boil just thinking about this.....the officiating in the Chiefs and Jags games this year was as bad as it gets, but I shudder to think how the Zebras are going top themselves and screw the Bills over in this one. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 27 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: lol did you see the bit NFL good morning football did? It was hilarious about BB being the emperor and Mac the young apprentice.. I died laughing it was so funny.. Be honest, do you really feel Mac is a special player that has superstar upside? I'm just not getting it. Brady was wrongly maligned for years by Bills fans for being a system qb who dinks and dunks, but he always had the ability to sling the rock downfield and demonstrated much better arm strength than given credit for. With Jones I see an smart & accurate qb, but one with significant physical limitations and ceiling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: lol did you see the bit NFL good morning football did? It was hilarious about BB being the emperor and Mac the young apprentice.. I died laughing it was so funny.. At the heart of every good legend is a ‘kernel’ of truth…🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 It should be noted that Bill Vinovich's crew averages the least amount of penalties this year. Hopefully it will be the same as with Brad Allen last week. Let the players play 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I have 1-3, but they will be important drives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 Old habits die hard! 🧐 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: While not normally a conspiracy theorist Said every conspiracy theorist who ever lived. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 WHO THE HELL IS THE CREW?? WHO IS IT?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Said every conspiracy theorist who ever lived. Is this where it’s appropriate to start my response with, “hear me out…?” 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: lol did you see the bit NFL good morning football did? It was hilarious about BB being the emperor and Mac the young apprentice.. I died laughing it was so funny.. Also, it would be remiss of me to leave out this little gem whilst we’re discussing the progress of this dark side “apprenticeship” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 7 hours ago, buffblue said: Be honest, do you really feel Mac is a special player that has superstar upside? I'm just not getting it. Brady was wrongly maligned for years by Bills fans for being a system qb who dinks and dunks, but he always had the ability to sling the rock downfield and demonstrated much better arm strength than given credit for. With Jones I see an smart & accurate qb, but one with significant physical limitations and ceiling. As a fan of course I do! But if I am honest it is still way to soon to tell. The first 5-6 games they didn’t let Jones really do much more than dink and dunk as he learned.. Since they have opened up the playbook but I feel they are still taking it slow with him so he doesn’t make that big dumb rookie mistake. 6 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Also, it would be remiss of me to leave out this little gem whilst we’re discussing the progress of this dark side “apprenticeship” Yup the dark side still went 11-5 with Matt Cassell at QB. Probably been undefeated again if Lord Brady had not gone down.. lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 OP already preparing mentally for an L. sad Let em play the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Every team on 3rd and long just throws it deep and out comes the yellow flag. Every team every game. NFL officials are worse than WWE "officials". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Realistically, I have the over/under at 3.5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 And how many stoopid penalties will the Bills take? Does anyone have stats about Bills 3rd down penalties on defense this year and how many were RPP or personal fouls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Pats wont score unless a flag is thrown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I will say it will likely be as bad as Cowboys vs Raiders. I actually felt bad for Cowboys on some of those calls and I hate the Cowboys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 9 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Old habits die hard! 🧐 You're not exactly brightening up my morning good sir. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I like that these stats can be looked up easily, so I checked NE has 21 firsts downs by penalty this year, Buffalo 11. Just so we know that isn't an anomaly the 2009-Present stats go 375 for NE (most in the league) to 257 for Buffalo (3rd least in the league). 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Well considering the Bills are in the top 8 in penalties against them this year, top 6 last year, top 9 in 2019, top 6 in 2018. I would dare say the Bills shoot themselves in the foot a few times versus the Pats. That's four straight years in the top 10 in penalties, you can only blame the refs so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said: You're not exactly brightening up my morning good sir. 😉 Hopefully we will have enough material after this game to create a new annual meme thread featuring MJ instead! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: Well considering the Bills are in the top 8 in penalties against them this year, top 6 last year, top 9 in 2019, top 6 in 2018. I would dare say the Bills shoot themselves in the foot a few times versus the Pats. That's four straight years in the top 10 in penalties, you can only blame the refs so much. 5th in most penalties per game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: Well considering the Bills are in the top 8 in penalties against them this year, top 6 last year, top 9 in 2019, top 6 in 2018. I would dare say the Bills shoot themselves in the foot a few times versus the Pats. That's four straight years in the top 10 in penalties, you can only blame the refs so much. But the refs have already handed New England the game and its T-minus 106 hours until kickoff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 All of them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 It will be 3. There is an art to fixing games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Greg S said: Every team on 3rd and long just throws it deep and out comes the yellow flag. Every team every game. NFL officials are worse than WWE "officials". In all fairness, and while it annoys the everloving crap out of me, DBs gotta learn to turn their head around. Play the ball, not the receiver. Its a dumb AF flag and really should be a 15 yard/1st down penalty instead of a spot foul but the rule is quite clear that if the DB is fighting with the receiver but doesn't have his head turned towards the ball a flag is gonna get thrown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I voted 1-3 because the Bills are averaging 1.9 per game 1 hour ago, Klaus said: I like that these stats can be looked up easily, so I checked NE has 21 firsts downs by penalty this year, Buffalo 11. Just so we know that isn't an anomaly the 2009-Present stats go 375 for NE (most in the league) to 257 for Buffalo (3rd least in the league). The Bills have 18 https://www.buffalobills.com/team/stats/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, JMF2006 said: I voted 1-3 because the Bills are averaging 1.9 per game The Bills have 18 https://www.buffalobills.com/team/stats/ And opponents have 30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane nelson Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 3 x more than us. They know Wallace is good for at least 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) I think this could be a factor. Not because the refs want to help the Pats though, but because we have done this to ourselves in way too many games this year. On both sides of the ball though. We kill drives and take points off the board with stupid things like false starts and holding as much or more as we give opponents more chances to score on defense by negating a 3rd down stop with dumb penalties. While some of those on both sides were atrocious calls by the refs, most were self inflicted. Bills being good is good for the NFL. They love the positive image of the Bills, it’s fans, Josh Allen, etc. I don’t believe for one second there will be a conspiracy biased to help the Pats beat the Bills from the Refs or NFL. Josh Allen is one of the most likable and marketable players to enter the NFL in years from an image side of things. They aren’t conspiring against him or the Bills. 24 minutes ago, shane nelson said: 3 x more than us. They know Wallace is good for at least 3. Except Wallace has played great this year. I have no clue where all this Wallace negativity comes from. It’s like none of you actually watch him play. Edited December 1, 2021 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2716721-roger-goodell-says-robert-kraft-friendship-was-never-strained-by-deflategate This shouldn't of been allowed to happen, it didn't even dawn on ownerships of the league, and just how dirty Kraft and Goodell could be given their family alliances in Detroit for the Purple Gang-era. Normally, I'd respect gangsters going legit my Great-Uncle Tommy Fitzmorris (ran girls for the Irish in Buffalo) went legit. Beyond just drive extending drives, Goodell favoring teams, and Farrelly seemingly black mailing everyone they are just animalistic trash and thugs who are probabally doubling up on gambling profits from off shore Russian gambling operations (Kraft's meeting with Putin was personal not a mistake or a party.). I've had enough of their crap as a Bills fan from Maine. Anybody else want to roll their eyes at me feel free too got to wonder how many Tong's and Traid's provide the older girls for meeting Kraft's needs given he's not satisfied by a much younger woman. Couple of sex worker advocates tried to tell me about how discussing those illegal crime families cold land them in trouble and described it as something the general public like myself doesn't understand in scope. Told them my loss prevention background and to quit treating me like a gutter bum on Twitter. Alas, misunderstandings meant they blocked me after a couple of posts saying I put their lives in danger; Take notice folks we got this information and we can deduce it no matter what you think on my analysis of a situation regarding McDermott I can be right on the money which is a fifty-fifty gamble and about all analytics relating to differing levels of intelligence gathering can be. Tired of their conduct on and off the field, tired of how they seemingly have Goodell stitching everything up, and tired of them having Judges in their pockets like Berman. I've kicked their tires, had a couple of Twitter reports filed, when asked for their evidence of libel, and slander they backed off like rats. Would rather just grap a cup of Tim Horton's in front of them, sit in the middle, interrupt a meeting, and give Farrelly the pedophile defender a nod. A lot of this goes beyond just flags officials have been having their own private meetings for years with guys like the disgraced former IRS Agent Jeff Triplette (Music City Miracle, and after retirement wanted to work in the Titans org). You break these guys up publicly make them nervous, push them around, and it's not like they've ever gone beyond being some pedophile animals from Southie like Bulger. Seeing Howie Carr with Kraft is like WTAF are you doing Carr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I won’t mind a flag for RTP as long as it involves Mac’s arse being driven so far into the earth that an original Chinese Geisha gets to tickle his starfish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said: Well considering the Bills are in the top 8 in penalties against them this year, top 6 last year, top 9 in 2019, top 6 in 2018. I would dare say the Bills shoot themselves in the foot a few times versus the Pats. That's four straight years in the top 10 in penalties, you can only blame the refs so much. I do wonder how many penalties are on the Bills defense vs. Bills offense. If the penalties are defense heavy it could be a design of the gameplan to be extra physical and live with a few extra calls going against you. But if the penalties are heavy on the offensive side too that's on the coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Football games, especially those with playoff implications, represent interstate commerce, and any attempt to illicitly affect a games outcome would go beyond a civil case (which would, in its own right, be substantial), and fall into RICO felony status. The idea of the referees, or the NFL, getting on board with such a scheme would, IMO, be a non-starter. Too risky for the refs. Too risky for the NFL. It was the RICO implications that made the Spygate controversy, and the weird scene of NFL executives, in their suits, and dress shoes, destroying evidence in a concrete hallway in Foxboro, a much bigger deal than Patriots* fans will ever admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQW87 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I'm more interested in how many drive stalling penalties the Bills will get. If you have watched the Pats throughout the many years of their supposed dynasty, in every big game the opponent has to overcome at least one holding penalty every drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 15 hours ago, buffblue said: Be honest, do you really feel Mac is a special player that has superstar upside? I'm just not getting it. Brady was wrongly maligned for years by Bills fans for being a system qb who dinks and dunks, but he always had the ability to sling the rock downfield and demonstrated much better arm strength than given credit for. With Jones I see an smart & accurate qb, but one with significant physical limitations and ceiling. Gonna be hard to roll with a straight up pocket passer in the modern nfl…I think the deck is kind of stacked against him if I had to take an educated guess. Defensive linemen are getting scarier and there are less and less pro ready offensive linemen in each draft. He seems like the perennial playoff contender but not enough of an X factor to carry the team through a tough playoff game in my wayyyy too early assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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