Matt Breida transforms our offense.

[DJB]

2 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said:

The difference is in acceleration after the handoff. He’s able to hit the hole, when it’s actually open, instead of being a step or two slower and missing it.

 

Wait a minute funny guy...are you trying to say that this oline opens up holes?!?!

[BuffaloBill]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

"Brenda"

 

Best nickname in sports?

 

 

 

Are the ladies playing in the NFL now?

[kjack151]

51 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Brieda gives the “potential” of a home run play. You won’t get that from Motor/Moss. Remember how the Bills contained King Henry, but the 2 long runs was the difference in him having a subpar game to a super game 

I agree with you.  He’s the only speed threat that we have on offense, and unfortunately we don’t have room on our roster for a true speed receiver because of the logjam. 

[bmur66]

3 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

I like it too. Especially when he runs like this.🤗

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i0RSj-q7qw8

That was an impressive run. He trucked that no. 43

Edited November 26, 2021 by bmur66

[78thealltimegreat]

In the olines defense when they do open a hole we don’t really have a back to make a defense pay by hitting it hard and getting to the second level…Breida really does change this as his speed when he sees an opening is something the Bills haven’t had in recent years 

[freddyjj]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

Honestly, why has it taken this dude 10 weeks to get on the field?

 

He’s an absolute weapon and a solid piece in passing and running. I saw several plays that Singletary got 4 on that Breida could have gotten 12 because of the difference in speed. Not to say Singletary had a bad game, he’s just limited.

 

Its time for 24 carries a game between the two of them for the rest of the year.

Slow your roll please.  He was benched for all Of 3rd quarter for running the wring way on screen play On drive before end of half - play before interception.

 

As most veteran RB he can't be doing that. 

[UConn James]

In the immortal words of the fixer Wolf in Pulp Fiction, let’s not go sucking each other’s 🍆s just yet.

 

Need to see if he can do this consistently and against good / better Ds.

Edited November 26, 2021 by UConn James

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

He was benched for all Of 3rd quarter for running the wring way on screen play On drive before end of half - play before interception.

 

Yep, McDermott sent him a well deserved message. But then he put him back on the field and he promptly scored a TD that Singletary and Moss couldn't dream of scoring. He needs to have a featured role in the offense from now on.

[Dr. K]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

Breida is the best I think.

He doesn't pass block. That's why he played less in the second half.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

4 hours ago, without a drought said:

9 carries for 26 yards, people may be getting a little ahead of themselves here.

 

He did a nice job getting to the end zone on the screen pass and his speed has been a missing element in their offense, but transforms the offense is a bit strong.

But those 26 yards were the best 26 yards I have seen!!

 

in all seriousness, Breida’s carries were pretty interesting— lots of longish runs (9, 6, 5, etc) mixed with negative runs (-4, etc.)

 

what’s nice is that his good runs have the ability to be much bigger gains than our other RB’s.

[FireChans]

31 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

He doesn't pass block. That's why he played less in the second half.

I didn’t say perfect, I said The best.

[Marv's Neighbor]

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Devin Singletary is by far our best RB. I don't know why we go away from him. Brieda is the perfect compliment. 

 

 

I put Moss ahead of Singletary.    Would prefer to see Moss and Brieda together.

[starrymessenger]

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Devin Singletary is by far our best RB. I don't know why we go away from him. Brieda is the perfect compliment. 

 

 

I agree that Brieda makes Singletary better. If he was in the same backfield as Jonathan Taylor he would be better still and quite possibly very good. That may seem self evident but it’s not necessarily the case that one back can raise another’s production and effectiveness  significantly. Moss is not a good complement to Devin and vice versa actually.  But the thing that can hold him back are his hands and especially ball security. That can derail his career in a hurry unless correctable and corrected.

[pennstate10]

2 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

So, if you don't count the plays in which he didn't do well, then he was good?

 

He had 20 yards on his first 3 carries and then 4 yards on his next 4 carries, including two rushes for negative yardage - and all four of those rushes were in the first half, not when the were trying to run out the clock. As a matter of fact, after his first three rushes, he had 6 rushes the rest of the game for 7 yards. Three of those rushes were for negative yardage and not one of them was in a "run out the clock" situation.

 

I like Breida's speed and he had a couple of really nice plays. I hope they continue to find a role for him in the offense.

 

This is why you need to watch the game and not depend solely on stats. 
 

on breidas positive runs, he showed a burst through small holes that none of the other Bills backs have shown. 
 

on at least two of his negative 4-5 yd runs, there were 1-3 guys on him immediately after Josh got him the ball. Those were failures by OL and TE, not Breida. 

[TuelTime]

Breida is the only RB with speed to get around the edge. This helps keep defenses honest, makes them set an edge and prevents them from pinning their ears back which helps the passing game. Just because his YPC isn't great doesn't mean he isn't helping the offense.

[billsfan1959]

22 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

This is why you need to watch the game and not depend solely on stats. 
 

on breidas positive runs, he showed a burst through small holes that none of the other Bills backs have shown. 
 

on at least two of his negative 4-5 yd runs, there were 1-3 guys on him immediately after Josh got him the ball. Those were failures by OL and TE, not Breida. 

 

I watched the game. He had a couple of nice plays. However, you (generically the people down on Singletary and Moss) can't blame the Oline and TE for Breida's plays in which he is ineffective and dismiss it when others say the same thing about why Singletary and Moss aren't more effective. And if you want to blame the Oline and TE for Breida's less effective plays then give them credit for his most effective play. On the 23 yard screen pass for the touchdown, Breida was 10 yards downfield before he even had to think about a defender. He then made a nice cut through a hole opened by his blockers. He, essentially went untouched on that TD because of the great downfield blocking.

 

Like I said, I like the speed Breida brings to the offense and he did have a couple of nice plays. But this Idea that he some how transformed the offense is ridiculous.

 

On most of his plays, he ran into the same problems Singletary and Moss have run into: awful blocking.

[BillsFanForever19]

 

Singletary - 68% of snaps

Breida - 32% of snaps

 

This needs to change to at least 50/50. With as hot as he was in the 1st half, it was driving me insane seeing series after series in the 2nd half with Singletary. He wasn't bad last night. But I couldn't help but think that on the one big 10 yard run he had that Breida would have taken it to the house if he had that hole. 

 

I don't understand McDermott's undying loyalty to him and refusing to see anyone else as the lead back. Even in post game, when the media was asking him about Breida, he cut them off to say "I think BOTH backs were great today".

[Beast]

Matt Breida transforms our offense.

 

I now think I've heard it all.

 

 

Edited November 26, 2021 by Beast

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

11 minutes ago, Beast said:

Matt Breida transforms our offense.

 

I now think I've heard it all.

 

 

He keeps defense honest from fully pinning there ears back as well as have to wiser.  When teams useTampa 2 or cover 2 shell when teams use this stuff have to account for him as well.

[Beast]

Just now, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

He keeps defense honest from fully pinning there ears back as well as have to wiser.  When teams useTampa 2 or cover 2 shell when teams use this stuff have to account for him as well.

Whatever.

 

I made a statement. Do you believe yourself that Matt Breida "transforms" our offense?

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Just now, Beast said:

Whatever.

 

I made a statement. Do you believe yourself that Matt Breida "transforms" our offense?

Lots of ways helps out lots. Not saying fully transforms it but helps in lots of ways Brenda helps out.

[billsfan1959]

11 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Singletary - 68% of snaps

Breida - 32% of snaps

 

This needs to change to at least 50/50. With as hot as he was in the 1st half, it was driving me insane seeing series after series in the 2nd half with Singletary. He wasn't bad last night. But I couldn't help but think that on the one big 10 yard run he had that Breida would have taken it to the house if he had that hole. 

 

I don't understand McDermott's undying loyalty to him and refusing to see anyone else as the lead back. Even in post game, when the media was asking him about Breida, he cut them off to say "I think BOTH backs were great today".

 

1) Singletary gets more snaps because this is still a passing offense and Singletary is much better at pass protection than Breida.

2) Breida's first three runs netted 20 yards. His last 5 carries in the first half netted 8 yds, including two runs for negative yards. He also had a short pass over the middle for 6 yards. I hardly think that qualifies as being "hot" in the 1st half.

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, FireChans said:

Honestly, why has it taken this dude 10 weeks to get on the field?

 

He’s an absolute weapon and a solid piece in passing and running. I saw several plays that Singletary got 4 on that Breida could have gotten 12 because of the difference in speed. Not to say Singletary had a bad game, he’s just limited.

 

Its time for 24 carries a game between the two of them for the rest of the year.

.....the same reason it took so long to realize players like Peterman and Ford were busts. Breida was a very good acquisition that got buried because of two 3rd round investments. What drives me nuts is if they realized Moss and Singletary had no speed then why not give Breida the snaps.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

.....the same reason it took so long to realize players like Peterman and Ford were busts. Breida was a very good acquisition that got buried because of two 3rd round investments. What drives me nuts is if they realized Moss and Singletary had no speed then why not give Breida the snaps.

Agree Breida is a very good acquisition. Wanted him out there lots.

[Doc]

Negative runs are from bad blocking.  Every RB on the Bills suffers from them.  All other things being equal, I'd rather have the guy who has homerun speed.

[billsfan89]

I like the speed Breida brings to the offense. But it isn't like he is transforming the offense either. He isn't having that much more success than Moss or Singletary. This team needs to get Spencer Brown and Mongo back on the O-line in order to have success in the rushing game. Breida is a nice player to add to the mix but he isn't that great either.

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

I like the speed Breida brings to the offense. But it isn't like he is transforming the offense either. He isn't having that much more success than Moss or Singletary. This team needs to get Spencer Brown and Mongo back on the O-line in order to have success in the rushing game. Breida is a nice player to add to the mix but he isn't that great either.

He is averaging over 5 YPC and 11 yard per catch. 
 

He has more TD’s than Singletary and 2 TD’s less than Moss playing 3 games.

[Hebert19]

38 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said:

 

1) Singletary gets more snaps because this is still a passing offense and Singletary is much better at pass protection than Breida.

2) Breida's first three runs netted 20 yards. His last 5 carries in the first half netted 8 yds, including two runs for negative yards. He also had a short pass over the middle for 6 yards. I hardly think that qualifies as being "hot" in the 1st half.

Well the one rpo lost 6 yards because josh made a bad decision 

[Mat68]

He adds a dimension the offense lacked.  Teams that have problems securing the edge will have big issues with Breida.  His speed will greatly add to the boot action behind the outside zone. He is making good on his opportunities.  His ability, added to the higher concentration on running helps the offense.  

[John from Riverside]

So the question once again becomes is it the office of line that’s the main problem or is it the running backs

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Transforms? No.

 

Passes the eye test and should be getting significant playing time?  You bet.

 

Really hope this isn’t a play just to motivate Moss where we see Breida inactive again soon.

[John from Riverside]

I am thinking back to last year's draft.....what was that RB that got drafted by the jags ahead of us and got hurt?

 

Would we have taken him based on his physical skills and speed with that first pick watching how Brieda does so much better with this OL?

[hondo in seattle]

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

.....the same reason it took so long to realize players like Peterman and Ford were busts. Breida was a very good acquisition that got buried because of two 3rd round investments. What drives me nuts is if they realized Moss and Singletary had no speed then why not give Breida the snaps.

 

I just don't buy this.  McD and Daboll have spent their lives in football and have been successful.  But they're too stupid to see that Breida might be better than a 3rd rounder?   That just doesn't make sense to me.  I mean seriously, what coach says, "I don't care if he's outperforming X.  We used a 3rd round draft pick on X and X needs to play."  3rd round picks just aren't that special.  

 

I think this is more likely:  Breida is not a powerful back.  He's a speed guy who needs space to work and the Bills offensive line so far hasn't been good at creating space.  McD and Daboll probably thought Moss and Singletary were more likely to get yards when dealing with a penetrated backfield and crowded line of scrimmage.  

 

[SoCal Deek]

3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

So the question once again becomes is it the office of line that’s the main problem or is it the running backs

I’m going with the “office of line”. 😂😂
Just kidding…I’m often amazed at what iPhone thinks I’m trying to say! 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

10 hours ago, flmike said:

and he drops at first contact usually. I did see one play where he shook off a tackler and was pretty amazed. It's a rare sight. 

He breaks a few more tackles than you think but it is still way too few. 

I'm fine with a 50 / 50 split with Brieda. 

As someone else said if Breida can't pass block then Singletary will get 70% of the snaps

[Einstein]

11 hours ago, Spiderweb said:

Brenda gives our offense an additional weapon, but at 2.9 yards per carry, let's not get carried away. That is still a pedestrian performance.

 

Opportunity cost.

 

There we’re several runs that Singletary had room but it closed quickly and I kept thinking  “Breida would have had several more yards there”.

1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I just don't buy this.  McD and Daboll have spent their lives in football and have been successful.  But they're too stupid to see that Breida might be better than a 3rd rounder?   That just doesn't make sense to me.  I mean seriously, what coach says, "I don't care if he's outperforming X.  We used a 3rd round draft pick on X and X needs to play."  3rd round picks just aren't that special.  

 

I think this is more likely:  Breida is not a powerful back.  He's a speed guy who needs space to work and the Bills offensive line so far hasn't been good at creating space.  McD and Daboll probably thought Moss and Singletary were more likely to get yards when dealing with a penetrated backfield and crowded line of scrimmage.  

 

 

Youre reasoning may be correct but you’d think by a month into the season they’d be saying “Ok, we thought wrong, time to try Breida”.

 

Yet it took until November.

[TailgateChef]

5 hours ago, Mat68 said:

He adds a dimension the offense lacked.  Teams that have problems securing the edge will have big issues with Breida.  His speed will greatly add to the boot action behind the outside zone. He is making good on his opportunities.  His ability, added to the higher concentration on running helps the offense.  

Good observation Sir.  It is, indeed, the ultimate chess match out there.  We can now exploit a particular weakness of some teams that may have previously had the upper hand.

[JoshAllin]

41 minutes ago, Einstein said:

There we’re several runs that Singletary had room but it closed quickly and I kept thinking  “Breida would have had several more yards there”.

There was the singletary 16yrd run where I think breida would have got tackled early, either way they both look to compliment each other I like breida on the edges while singletary gets more of the power runner and pass blocker role

Edited November 27, 2021 by motorj

[DrPJax]

12 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

Transform may not be the best description. Perhaps, an added wrinkle? We ran our base offense the majority of the game. Regardless, it was nice to see a burst and a RB that get some YAC- Breida had a nice TD and overall a solid game.

Great point, he was just added to our regular offense, so think what might be possible if Daboll focused on what Brieda may do better or best and design plays , some blocking schemes t o enhance those abilities.  Reverses, counters, put him in the slot, etc.  we’ve seen the limits of moss, singletary, why not try focus on speed with Brieda, Stevenson. It’s something teams have no film on and it coukd jump start our crucial month of December.  Ypc wasn’t great but Brieda still had more explosive plays. This offense is stuck in last years schemes, defenses evolve and we need to be ahead rather than keep reacting! 

[BananaB]

Breida is just more explosive, that’s why he’s getting in the end zone.

Singletary’s couple TDs a year ain’t putting fear in any defences eyes. 
 

This really is a good offense to get the best out of Breida because  he’s not asked to do too much. With all our weapons opportunities should be easy to come by. That goes for all positions.  I always thought teams never really gave two ***** about Devin or Moss, let them have their carries they were never really gonna burn them.  Breida is too fast and speed kills. Defences are now gonna have to take notice