Week 2: Bills at Dolphins

[MrSarcasm]

1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m not overlooking anyone after yesterday. Have to get out there and get some balance in the offense. Get 26 going early.  Also need to tackle well and stop the run. This game won’t be a push over.

Getting Singletary going early should also calm Allen's nerves. Pretty hard to get amped up just handing off the ball.

[HeHateMe]

2 minutes ago, MrSarcasm said:

Getting Singletary going early should also calm Allen's nerves. Pretty hard to get amped up just handing off the ball.

I hate that this is still a thing..  The fans in the stands is certainly a legitimate argument still.

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, HeHateMe said:

I hate that this is still a thing..  The fans in the stands is certainly a legitimate argument still.

 

Yea....  I tried as hard as I could to dismiss this, but it's clearly something worth monitoring.  I'm expecting him to put it behind him at some point, but I really hate that this clearly can't be put to bed yet. 

[SWATeam]

4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I’m the opposite… the Bills have won the last 4 against Miami and destroyed them the last outing…. Part of me thinks the Dolphins are due and will be highly motivated to beat the Bills Sunday, especially a Bills team that is vulnerable offensively at the moment. If Josh and the offensive line play like they did yesterday on Sunday Dolphins will win, IMO. 

I'm shocked!!!

[HappyDays]

11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Part of me thinks the Dolphins are due and will be highly motivated to beat the Bills Sunday

 

Com on Scott... you watched the Patriots dominate us for nearly two decades. There is no such thing as a team being due to beat another team. The Bills will be highly motivated to make sure they don't start the season 0-2. Kind of like we don't match up well with the Steelers, the Dolphins don't match up well against us. No guaranteed victories in the NFL but what about the Dolphins scares you? The strength of their team is the secondary. That doesn't worry me nearly as much as a team with a good pass rush.

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Com on Scott... you watched the Patriots dominate us for nearly two decades. There is no such thing as a team being due to beat another team. The Bills will be highly motivated to make sure they don't start the season 0-2. Kind of like we don't match up well with the Steelers, the Dolphins don't match up well against us. No guaranteed victories in the NFL but what about the Dolphins scares you? The strength of their team is the secondary. That doesn't worry me nearly as much as a team with a good pass rush.

I can see why someone would be worried about us dominating the Dolphins lately and them coming out motivated, but unlike Pittsburgh - and much like us back during the Pats reign - the Dolphins don’t have the dogs Pittsburgh has.  Different mentality.  
 

I was worried about the fact we had beat them two years in a row.   Miami, not so much. 
 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by SCBills

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

You really comparing that to the Patriots domination over us?

 

Yes, albeit on a much shorter timeframe. McDermott with Allen is 5-1 against them. The lone loss was his rookie year when Clay dropped a game winner and he had zero talent around him in any case. Last year our backups crushed them for an entire half in a game they needed to win. What do you call that if not domination? I'm sure the Dolphins are motivated to beat us. That doesn't change my thinking.

[TBBills]

18 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

Noodle arm Tua...I see him as a career backup QB...He does not scream franchise QB to me...

His team didn't even make him a captain... That tells you something.

[SCBills]

JC Jackson was openly clowning Tua after the game 

[ColoradoBills]

29 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

You really comparing that to the Patriots domination over us? The Bills fielded ***** rosters year in and year our while the Patriots were perennial SB participants. 
 

Miami is a lot more talented than those Bills teams…. Nothing particularly scares me about the Dolphins… Just saying I wouldn’t at all be surprised if the Bills lose if the offense looks as disheveled this week as last. 

 

Then if you are right the Bills will lose.

[RyanC883]

1 hour ago, MrSarcasm said:

Getting Singletary going early should also calm Allen's nerves. Pretty hard to get amped up just handing off the ball.

 

Singletary and Moss both.  Lets activate them.  I can't think of another team that gives the RB the ball less on a continual basis.  

[MAJBobby]

Please MIA try it again. Please think you can just play Man against us and hope it works. After a bad game with Steelers MIA could be the perfect game for an Allen Get well game. 

18 hours ago, CodeMonkey said:

Tua and the fish managed to beat the pats today. On paper the Bills win.  But if the same Bills team as today shows up, 0-2.

Tua and the Turnovers beat the Pats. Those Turnovers will dry up. 

[Bangarang]

I don’t want to run more just for the sake of doing it. This team is going to live and die by Allen’s arm.

 

We also don’t necessarily need Allen slinging it 30 yards downfield 50 times a game. The Chiefs make a living at turning 3 yards passes into 12 yard gains.

Edited September 13, 2021 by Bangarang

[MAJBobby]

Not ready to lock it in yet. BUT I am thinking Bills by 3 scores. 

[LABILLBACKER]

18 hours ago, buffalo2218 said:

Perhaps Daboll actually utilizes a run game for this game? The phins' run D is pretty porous

Miami might have some of the best dbs in the league. Activate Moss and mix the run the whole game. Not just when you have a lead. I know our OL are not great run blockers but Pitt basically ignored Devin.

[HeHateMe]

Probably another close game... Offense needs to get right quick or we are staring at 0-2.

[CircleTheWagons99]

19 hours ago, buffalo2218 said:

Perhaps Daboll actually utilizes a run game for this game? The phins' run D is pretty porous

He will have allen throw 60 times

[Scott7975]

58-9 Bills.  Tua is ok but nothing great.  Average QB.  Defense is good but Josh has owned that defense.  Dolphins coaching sucks IMO.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

1 hour ago, HeHateMe said:

I hate that this is still a thing..  The fans in the stands is certainly a legitimate argument still.

Great post.

[MrSarcasm]

1 hour ago, RyanC883 said:

 

Singletary and Moss both.  Lets activate them.  I can't think of another team that gives the RB the ball less on a continual basis.  

Leave Moss off(I've got Singletary in my Fant🙄sy)

[CincyBillsFan]

4 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

Nearly 24 hours later I'm really not sure how I feel about next week but make no mistake this is pretty much a must win for the Bills because a loss not only puts them at 0-2 but essentially 3 games behind the Dolphins.

 

I was flipping back and forth between the Dolphins/Pats and Browns/Chiefs yesterday but from what I saw the Dolphins defense still looks very good but obviously not quite like the Steelers in terms of the front seven. Tua was solid other than the INT but it still says something to go into Foxboro and win especially on opening day.

 

If the Bills do bounce back and throttle the Dolphins by 2+ scores this week I'll be impressed but something tells me that even if we win it might be another ugly afternoon.

The Dolphins gave up nearly 400 yards to the conservative, ball control, rookie QB led NE offense.  Sure NE struggled in the red zone but that's expected with a rookie QB.  The Dolphins have a solid D but IMO it's no where near as good as a healthy Steeler's D.

 

 

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

I like our track record against Miami and think we kind of ran into the perfect storm yesterday. Give me the Bills to win by 10 on Sunday! 

 

Another sliver of hope for anyone that's looking for some: as far as we know, we escaped Week 1 without any notable injuries. Seems like it was an absolutely brutal week injury-wise for a lot of teams. Jason Verrett, Raheem Mostert, Braden Smith, Mekhi Becton, Jerry Jeudy, Lamarcus Joyner, Trent Brown, Marcus Davenport, Jeff Okudah, Marshon Lattimore...mostly longer-term injuries as well. 

 

For Week 3, Fitzpatrick and Curtis Samuel are already on IR...that defense is scary, but their offense will be really short-handed without those guys. 

[Houston's #1 Bills Fan]

I was going to get tickets to this game, as my son was off from school that Monday. But, my A/C went out Friday, so I spent the money on my comfort and not my aggravation! 

[Putin]

5 minutes ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said:

I was going to get tickets to this game, as my son was off from school that Monday. But, my A/C went out Friday, so I spent the money on my comfort and not my aggravation! 

I don’t blame you I’m in the west Texas area and it’s still in the high 90’s I can only imagine how hot it is still Houston 

Edited September 13, 2021 by Putin

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

4 hours ago, MrSarcasm said:

Getting Singletary going early should also calm Allen's nerves. Pretty hard to get amped up just handing off the ball.

Get this kid a therapist … I’m pretty tired of this excuse for poor outings, if this is indeed the case

[LABILLBACKER]

36 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Get this kid a therapist … I’m pretty tired of this excuse for poor outings, if this is indeed the case

20 minutes of zen meditation before every game. Git er done McD....

[RichRiderBills]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

I’m not going to be surprised by either outcome to be honest…. I think the Bills offense has been figured out a little going back to last season against the Colts in the WC game…. And something just seemed off with the team yesterday….. Just completely sloppy all the way around and Allen didn’t look his self. Maybe it carries over. 

 

I dont think its been figured out. Hit a couple deep passes and not make bone head play calls and we would have been fine.

 

Honestly, tempo of the game was very similar to last years Steeler game, only difference is we melted late instead of get hot. Instead, Steelers got hot. 

 

We dont look like a Madden team vs good teams but we were still effective. Just gotta make plays.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

34 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

20 minutes of weed before every game. Git er done McD....

Fixed it

[chaccof]

O 4 the 7D's

That was then - Bills back on track

The Fish are fileted 

 

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

23 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

I dont think its been figured out. Hit a couple deep passes and not make bone head play calls and we would have been fine.

 

Honestly, tempo of the game was very similar to last years Steeler game, only difference is we melted late instead of get hot. Instead, Steelers got hot. 

 

We dont look like a Madden team vs good teams but we were still effective. Just gotta make plays.

I feel the opposite...I think in some ways the Bills have exposed themselves as being way to dependent on Allen.  Steelers game planned the same way the Chiefs did against us in the AFCCG(Defensively).  It was so similar that it had me saying to myself that the Bills have become predictable.  I have half a thought that McD will abandon the pass completely and try to become a power running team against the Dolphins, and they'll be ready for it.  The Phins have to know we are going to amp up the running plays this week as a knee jerk reaction from yesterday.

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

I feel the opposite...I think in some ways the Bills have exposed themselves as being way to dependent on Allen.  Steelers game planned the same way the Chiefs did against us in the AFCCG(Defensively).  It was so similar that it had me saying to myself that the Bills have become predictable.  I have half a thought that McD will abandon the pass completely and try to become a power running team against the Dolphins, and they'll be ready for it.  The Phins have to know we are going to amp up the running plays this week as a knee jerk reaction from yesterday.

I definitely don’t think this will happen. 

[RichRiderBills]

7 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

I feel the opposite...I think in some ways the Bills have exposed themselves as being way to dependent on Allen.  Steelers game planned the same way the Chiefs did against us in the AFCCG(Defensively).  It was so similar that it had me saying to myself that the Bills have become predictable.  I have half a thought that McD will abandon the pass completely and try to become a power running team against the Dolphins, and they'll be ready for it.  The Phins have to know we are going to amp up the running plays this week as a knee jerk reaction from yesterday.

 

I don't disagree. The offense has flaws. Situations can manifest that knock us off our game. That does not mean its "figured out" so to speak. It just is what it is.

 

I believe this is made worse by our run philosophy. I don't defend this. Teams with balanced defenses have fail safes if the normal path is not working, we don't really. It's a flaw with the offense. 

 

Its still an incredible challenge to shut down Allen or our WRs.

 

Allen did play relatively poor in our two playoff wins though. He also didn't play great in the Steelers win last year.

 

I think Daboll needs to mix in 10 more runs per game. I think he needs to relax on some of the cute angle stuff and know when to go straight at the defense better. 

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

21 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

I don't disagree. The offense has flaws. Situations can manifest that knock us off our game. That does not mean its "figured out" so to speak. It just is what it is.

 

I believe this is made worse by our run philosophy. I don't defend this. Teams with balanced defenses have fail safes if the normal path is not working, we don't really. It's a flaw with the offense. 

 

Its still an incredible challenge to shut down Allen or our WRs.

 

Allen did play relatively poor in our two playoff wins though. He also didn't play great in the Steelers win last year.

 

I think Daboll needs to mix in 10 more runs per game. I think he needs to relax on some of the cute angle stuff and know when to go straight at the defense better. 

I agree, but our offense looked so unimaginative yesterday aside from the "cutesy" plays that blew up in our face.  Four and five sets...very little motion or play action(as if defenses would buy it anyway.) we need to be more balanced with some mis-direction mixed in...I know I'm preaching to the choir but still feeling a little disappointed from yesterdays showing.

 

 

[CincyBillsFan]

26 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

 

Allen did play relatively poor in our two playoff wins though. He also didn't play great in the Steelers win last year.

 

I don't get why people believe Allen played poorly in BOTH our playoff wins.  The fact is that Allen was brilliant against a very good Colts D. His play in that game was elite by any measure:

 

26/35 for 324 yards and 2 TD's.  11 runs for 54 yards and 1 TD.  That's all three TD's and 378 total yards.  Allen basically won that game.

 

Sure he was average against Baltimore in a cold wind storm. But even here he did enough to win.

 

 

[buffalo2218]

44 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I definitely don’t think this will happen. 

I agree, if anything, I think Allen will end up hurting their D running, I just hope it's not designed runs. I'm pretty sure Flores is still fuming about week 17 last year. But then again, I'm pretty sure Josh is fuming over last sunday which makes Flores moot

[balln]

watch waddle burn levi wallace / taron johnson. phins winning by 7

[Locomark]

I am actually excited it’s Miami this week. 1. We will play angry  and 2. Allen has always played well in Miami.    
 

It is a get right game IMO. I expect us to to not overreact and keep flinging the ball around. 

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Eh. I doubt Josh is fuming. Dude just got paid a ***** ton of money. 

Josh is a competitor much like Brady. I'm sure he's upset and what I like is he was accountable too.

[balln]

gosecki and waddle all day

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

18 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Great… hopefully we see that this Sunday…. A lotta clips of Josh ***** around all practice throughout training camp….. hopefully the bad outing got him refocused.

 

You’re a broken record, we get it already!!!