Albany,n.y. Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 He has his 2 backups on the practice squad & will probably keep them there until he uses up the callups on Hoyer. He also has Garrett Gilbert on the PS after Dallas let him go. Not surprising that he has pulled off another legal way of getting around roster limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 In our fantasy league Bill never drafts a kicker or dst. He is always bending the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 So who cares. the BU QB is better and more important than some NAVY or Wake Alum sitting at roster spot 53. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goober Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Is that strategically getting around limits or having garbage backup QBs 3 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: He has his 2 backups on the practice squad & will probably keep them there until he uses up the callups on Hoyer. He also has Garrett Gilbert on the PS after Dallas let him go. Not surprising that he has pulled off another legal way of getting around roster limits. I mean, every team in the league could do that if you want your backup QB to be someone no one else in the league wants to sign in preference to their own backup QB 2 minutes ago, goober said: Is that strategically getting around limits or having garbage backup QBs Snap 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 They have Hoyer on the PS. With the rules this year it's not that big of a deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Pats claimed WR Malcolm Perry. He played QB for Navy and converted to WR. He could play QB in a pinch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, goober said: Is that strategically getting around limits or having garbage backup QBs It means their backups are so bad they aren’t worth a roster spot on 31 other teams and willing to accept PS money. 1 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Beating them again this year will be fun. I think there is a good chance that the bloom will be off the Hoodie rose by seasons end. NES drafting hasn’t been All That for a while and I’m not buying the pervasive opinion that he is smarter than everyone else. MJ might not be trash but he certainly isn’t a treasure either. And Gilbert???? Hoyer???? Puleeeeze😵 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Who cares about a teams backup?? No coach wants to leave theirs teams destiny in the hands of a backup. So... Edited September 2, 2021 by Ghost_002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 What this means is teams will take extra shots on rookie QB in a game when the QB has no backup in a game especially on teams which coaching staff is not secure. This must be why Brian Flores was meeting with Gregg Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 58 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said: Who cares about a teams backup?? No coach wants to leave theirs teams destiny in the hands of a backup. So... Is there anything BB does that you won't defend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: He has his 2 backups on the practice squad & will probably keep them there until he uses up the callups on Hoyer. He also has Garrett Gilbert on the PS after Dallas let him go. Not surprising that he has pulled off another legal way of getting around roster limits. Zero chance Hoyer isn't on the active roster by game day. He's just not cutting players subject to waivers for now. Every team does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, jkeerie said: Pats claimed WR Malcolm Perry. He played QB for Navy and converted to WR. He could play QB in a pinch. It you are an military academy quarterback you did not throw many passes. I'm sorry, I an retired military and watched many inter service games, they are not prepping you to be an NFL QB. Edited September 2, 2021 by Coastie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 The Patriots are going to be so awful this year. This is not a case of Belicheat turning absolutely nothing into a pesky playoff bubble team, this is the bottom falling out. I bet they finish behind the Jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goober Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said: Who cares about a teams backup?? No coach wants to leave theirs teams destiny in the hands of a backup. So... Ok no need for a backup QB in NE. Got it. Odd question but did one of your top 2 gunners ever play QB in college? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 hours ago, goober said: Is that strategically getting around limits or having garbage backup QBs Exactly. Let's try putting Mitch on the PS and see how that works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 47 minutes ago, cle23 said: Zero chance Hoyer isn't on the active roster by game day. He's just not cutting players subject to waivers for now. Every team does it. I don't know of any team doing what NE is doing-having their 2nd string QB on the practice squad with only 1 QB on the 53 man roster. Hoyer's not being re-signed like the Bills did with Freguson. BB did the same thing with his PKs part of last season, calling them up from the PS on game days & not having them on the 53 man roster. He doesn't have to be on the 53 man roster to be active on gameday, they just need to use one of his call ups, but if it's the same as last year each practice squad player is oly eligible to be called up to a certain amount of games. After NE uses up Hoyer's call ups he will either have to be added to the 53 or they'll have to get more PS QBs if Gilbert uses up his call ups too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nelius said: The Patriots are going to be so awful this year. This is not a case of Belicheat turning absolutely nothing into a pesky playoff bubble team, this is the bottom falling out. I bet they finish behind the Jets. Would love to see it. Really looking forward to the Dolphins vs. Patriots week one game. Somebody's got to lose! Tua has some pretty good skill players now but I still think he is going to struggle against the Patriots D. Even without Gilmore. As for Mac Jones. Freaking Dolphins D better not let him have a decent game. New England will probably just run it anyway though. Mac will have like 18-20 pass attempts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said: Who cares about a teams backup?? No coach wants to leave theirs teams destiny in the hands of a backup. So... And yet, injuries including at the QB position are a fact of life, and those teams who have cultivated some decent depth will be unquestionably better off when the time comes…see Bills with Trubisky, who arguably will be a starter again next year somewhere. Hostetler & Foles even won Super Bowls as backups who had to step in during those years—to say nothing of Reich, who engineered the greatest comeback in NFL history as a career backup… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Would love to see it. Really looking forward to the Dolphins vs. Patriots week one game. Somebody's got to lose! Tua has some pretty good skill players now but I still think he is going to struggle against the Patriots D. Even without Gilmore. As for Mac Jones. Freaking Dolphins D better not let him have a decent game. New England will probably just run it anyway though. Mac will have like 18-20 pass attempts. Who's even going to run for them, though? Their backs have been pretty lame since Michel fizzled out after his rookie year, and now he's gone. Burkhead's gone for whatever he was worth. I guess 30 year old James White and Damien Harris? Harris is alright but he's definitely not a bell cow that can carry a team, he may not even be top 30. It's just a bad team top to bottom right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goober Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: And yet, injuries including at the QB position are a fact of life, and those teams who have cultivated some decent depth will be unquestionably better off when the time comes…see Bills with Trubisky, who arguably will be a starter again next year somewhere. Hostetler & Foles even won Super Bowls as backups who had to step in during those years—to say nothing of Reich, who engineered the greatest comeback in NFL history as a career backup… Right , having that much confidence in your rookie QB in addition to the apparent confidence that he couldn’t possibly get injured, that you don’t care about signing a backup with apparently any value? It makes me wonder if they have a weird mutation of Peterman overconfidence syndrome but realize pats* are always right , me not so much. So I will try to let Ghost bask in his glory for the time being anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: I don't know of any team doing what NE is doing-having their 2nd string QB on the practice squad with only 1 QB on the 53 man roster. Hoyer's not being re-signed like the Bills did with Freguson. BB did the same thing with his PKs part of last season, calling them up from the PS on game days & not having them on the 53 man roster. He doesn't have to be on the 53 man roster to be active on gameday, they just need to use one of his call ups, but if it's the same as last year each practice squad player is oly eligible to be called up to a certain amount of games. After NE uses up Hoyer's call ups he will either have to be added to the 53 or they'll have to get more PS QBs if Gilbert uses up his call ups too. You can only do it twice per player. It isn't cheating. It is within the rules. Just nobody else would do it because they don't wanna risk their backup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nelius said: Who's even going to run for them, though? Their backs have been pretty lame since Michel fizzled out after his rookie year, and now he's gone. Burkhead's gone for whatever he was worth. I guess 30 year old James White and Damien Harris? Harris is alright but he's definitely not a bell cow that can carry a team, he may not even be top 30. It's just a bad team top to bottom right now. Hmmmnn. They've got a great group of TE's and a nice stable of RBs. Good defense too. I mean I still think we win the division, but I expect the Pats to make the playoffs if Mac Jones plays average ball. You are selling Harris short. 700 yards in 10 games and a 5.0 ypc. He's a top tier runner. And Stevenson has looked great in preseason. They'll make Jones's life much easier. Just run play action off that. Edited September 2, 2021 by TheBrownBear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Mac Jones found Brady's old Exempt from Physical Contact by Order of NFL Officiating Office badge. It doesn't expire until 2037 so Bill doesn't need a backup for a while 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 The Hoodie is messing with us again. What is he up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: It means their backups are so bad they aren’t worth a roster spot on 31 other teams and willing to accept PS money. Or Kraft found a way to give Hoyer money under the table. Anyone want some BH#5 juice or bars - 100% all natural - we accidentally bought 10,000 cases at $1000 a case and found out they were horrible. Oh well I guess Hoyer will get the 10 million - AW shucks it was an honest investment opportunity. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Some team needs to claim Hoyer just to mess with darth-hoodie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 We know this must somehow be a good idea because Belicheat is a genius. No doubt the NFL Network and ESPN will devote significant air time to debate this brilliant new strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Not saying this will happen at all, but God help the Pats if Jones goes down for a substantial period of time. Hoyer cannot play NFL football at a remotely capable level anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: He has his 2 backups on the practice squad & will probably keep them there until he uses up the callups on Hoyer. He also has Garrett Gilbert on the PS after Dallas let him go. Not surprising that he has pulled off another legal way of getting around roster limits. Genius! Now he can add another running back. 4-D chess! 5 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: Mac Jones found Brady's old Exempt from Physical Contact by Order of NFL Officiating Office badge. It doesn't expire until 2037 so Bill doesn't need a backup for a while And his special helmet radio that tells him who's open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 hours ago, goober said: Is that strategically getting around limits or having garbage backup QBs This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Not that he’s anything, but is Stidham done? Looks like is is on PUP list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 He did this last year with his kicker I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 10 hours ago, Ghost_002! said: Who cares about a teams backup?? No coach wants to leave theirs teams destiny in the hands of a backup. So... Yeah, kind of a useless discussion. Watch out for the Pats, Mac Jones has looked very good with the starters and McDaniels will coach him up well. I know everyone is expecting a SB, but Pats will be a very different team than the Bills saw last year. Jets will be better, Phins will be tough,. Nothing is a given in the NFL. They will need to compete for every win they get this year. Go Bills. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Yeah, kind of a useless discussion. Watch out for the Pats, Mac Jones has looked very good with the starters and McDaniels will coach him up well. I know everyone is expecting a SB, but Pats will be a very different team than the Bills saw last year. Jets will be better, Phins will be tough,. Nothing is a given in the NFL. They will need to compete for every win they get this year. Go Bills. My main point. its not even about BB and the pats, just a general statement. Not saying, not having a backup isn't important And really about BB the man has been coaching since the 70s like do people honestly think he has no idea what a 53 man roster should consists of?? 9 hours ago, Fan in Chicago said: Is there anything BB does that you won't defend? Please tell me what he is doing wrong in this scenario ? Edited September 2, 2021 by Ghost_002! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Nelius said: The Patriots are going to be so awful this year. This is not a case of Belicheat turning absolutely nothing into a pesky playoff bubble team, this is the bottom falling out. I bet they finish behind the Jets. Lets not get carried away. Their defense will still be tough and it will keep them in games. I expect the Pats to continue to lean on a heavy run game. I think much like last year they will need to sustain 10+ play drives to put points on the board which is not easy in this league. I anticipate the Pats will beat a lot of bad and middling teams but struggle to keep up with elite offenses. Cam is completely shot. I can't believe they let him finish the season last year. Mac Jones has a Rodgers/Allen type arm compared to Cam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 8 hours ago, goober said: Right , having that much confidence in your rookie QB in addition to the apparent confidence that he couldn’t possibly get injured, that you don’t care about signing a backup with apparently any value? It makes me wonder if they have a weird mutation of Peterman overconfidence syndrome but realize pats* are always right , me not so much. So I will try to let Ghost bask in his glory for the time being anyway. What is there to "bask in?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Ask yourself how you'd feel if it were the Bills going with a rookie starter and no active backup on roster. Would you be feeling like we'd be a playoff contender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_002! Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2021/09/01/brian-hoyer-patriots/ Patriots re-sign QB Brian Hoyer to back up Mac Jones The Patriots announced they’ve re-signed quarterback Brian Hoyer on Wednesday, one day after cutting the 12-year veteran. The move to cut Hoyer was procedural, and multiple reporters correctly predicted the Patriots planned to bring him back .............. I swear people don't care to think. They have their backup...he wasn't going into the season without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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