Max Fischer Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 5 hours ago, ExWNYer said: Agree. Leaks rarely, if ever, come out of the Bills FO unless they purposely want something out there. They are as tight-lipped as it gets. They are taking an Edge or CB, IMO. I don't see a RB in the 1st Round. There will be better value at other positions. I doubt they would select a RB but what I like about this FO is we won’t know until that night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 7 hours ago, 17islongenough said: Everytime the Bills are interested or keen on a player it never seems to happen. Take it with a grain of salt. They were keen on Ed Oliver. Also were listed as high on Devin and Knox too. Just saying, it’s not all been wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 So, in other words, the Bills have ZERO interest in Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Not a surprise. Outside of the Jets basically every team that picks after #18 and has a possible need for RB. But the Jets roster is too bad to be drafting RB's in the first round. Even if it's the second first round pick you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) I can definitely see them taking Harris or Etinne. Bills are in win now mode and that spot can easily be upgraded majorly with one of those two backs. Edited March 27, 2021 by CaptnCoke11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 this means we want Williams from UNC. I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 53 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I can definitely see them taking Harris or Etinne. Bills are in win now mode and that spot can easily be upgraded majorly with one of those two backs. yea same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: This is almost like drafting a RB in the 2nd round which I'm sure a lot of people here would feel better about. Need to get used to this winning mindset. Name one RB that the Bills passed on that went in round 1 that you regret missing on. Go back 30 years to 1990 if you'd like. It doesn't happen. And no, the 30th pick is not almost a 2nd round pick.........having the 5th year option alone is a HUGE distinction.........especially if that player turns out to be someone who can man one of the "$20M+" positions (QB/PassRusher/LT/CB/WR1). Wasting your top pick on a RB when you are about to enter a period where you are going to be tight to the cap for the foreseeable future is not so much a "winning mindset" as it is a shortsighted one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 This Bills will probably draft someone we did not expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Name one RB that the Bills passed on that went in round 1 that you regret missing on. Go back 30 years to 1990 if you'd like. It doesn't happen. And no, the 30th pick is not almost a 2nd round pick.........having the 5th year option alone is a HUGE distinction.........especially if that player turns out to be someone who can man one of the "$20M+" positions (QB/PassRusher/LT/CB/WR1). Wasting your top pick on a RB when you are about to enter a period where you are going to be tight to the cap for the foreseeable future is not so much a "winning mindset" as it is a shortsighted one. Hey man. I love you buddy. I see your point and respect it. Didn't mean to strike a nerve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 8 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Think anyone would do a 4th for Singletary? The Chiefs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Name one RB that the Bills passed on that went in round 1 that you regret missing on. Go back 30 years to 1990 if you'd like. It doesn't happen. And no, the 30th pick is not almost a 2nd round pick.........having the 5th year option alone is a HUGE distinction.........especially if that player turns out to be someone who can man one of the "$20M+" positions (QB/PassRusher/LT/CB/WR1). Wasting your top pick on a RB when you are about to enter a period where you are going to be tight to the cap for the foreseeable future is not so much a "winning mindset" as it is a shortsighted one. Totally agree. You think the Chiefs don’t want a do-over on the Edwards Helaire pick? An indulgent pick for a team that cut both its Tackles and desperately needs Corners and Linebackers. Please don’t take a RB in the first 3 rounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Name one RB that the Bills passed on that went in round 1 that you regret missing on. Go back 30 years to 1990 if you'd like. That’s easy - I’d be much happier if they had taken DeAngelo Williams or Joseph Addai over John McCargo in 2006 😁 Not that it was a binary choice. Basically they could’ve taken anyone else. Like Nick Mangold… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Hey man. I love you buddy. I see your point and respect it. Didn't mean to strike a nerve It's not a nerve.........it's just something we go thru every 2-3 draft seasons on here......there is always a different rationale........"the winning mindset" was a creative one......points for that. Me pointing out how nonsensical drafting a RB is in round 1 is just part of "the process". First of all.......the further we get from the regular season the further removed fans get from what actually works on the field. And I'm not saying that Beane won't make the mistake of misallocating a valuable asset.........he's made his share of mistakes like reaching past better players at more important positions to fill perceived needs at lesser ones with the likes of Cody Ford, Singletary, Moss etc. But I do think that they are more likely to pick up a player at a more important position. The financial pinch they are in will really limit their ability to re-stock much more important positions in the coming years. And the idea that "well a RB can help right away and if you get 5 top years out of them....." just doesn't actually pan out because as the position has become devalued so has the overall quality of athlete playing it. With less than a full handful of exceptions......the lead backs of today would have been the Kenny Davises of yesteryear...........fine for a short period of time.......but not up to the task longer term. Which is fine..........it's a passing league.........Josh Allen produces 8 yards on average every time he passes the ball.........Jim Brown couldn't make it worthwhile to take the ball out of his hands. The difference between top backs and guys like Singletary and Moss is less than a measly half yard per carry. Edited March 27, 2021 by BADOLBILZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: It's not a nerve.........it's just something we go thru every 2-3 draft seasons on here......there is always a different rationale........"the winning mindset" was a creative one......points for that. Me pointing out how nonsensical drafting a RB is in round 1 is just part of "the process". First of all.......the further we get from the regular season the further removed fans get from what actually works on the field. And I'm not saying that Beane won't make the mistake of misallocating a valuable asset.........he's made his share of mistakes like reaching past better players at more important positions to fill perceived needs at lesser ones with the likes of Cody Ford, Singletary, Moss etc. But I do think that they are more likely to pick up a player at a more important position. The financial pinch they are in will really limit their ability to re-stock much more important positions in the coming years. And the idea that "well a RB can help right away and if you get 5 top years out of them....." just doesn't actually pan out because as the position has become devalued so has the overall quality of athlete playing it. With less than a full handful of exceptions......the lead backs of today would have been the Kenny Davises of yesteryear...........fine for a short period of time.......but not up to the task longer term. Which is fine..........it's a passing league.........Josh Allen produces 8 yards on average every time he passes the ball.........Jim Brown couldn't make it worthwhile to take the ball out of his hands. The difference between top backs and guys like Singletary and Moss is less than a measly half yard per carry. My only counter to that is Harris/Etienne are weapons in the passing game. They’re not just runners. Singletary became straight shenanigans in the passing game last year and it hurt us in the most inopportune times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I think the Moss injury hurt.... not a huge Moss fan but he’s better than Singletary who regressed last season and Moss was starting to come on towards the end of the year and in that playoff game against the Colts.....also McD hated Yeldon so the only time he played was when they had no choice and he flashed when given the opportunities.... Pretty sure Tre White was picked 27th overall.... Which isn't 30th? We don't have the 27th pick. If we're referencing the 2017 draft, then we probably would have got the next CB after Tre with the 30th pick - Kevin King. That's a world of difference. It's a random point to argue though so who knows. This draft will be different because of the amount of QBs taken in the 1st, so maybe you can still get a top CB with the 30th pick, but the history of that pick and DBs in particular is awful. Edited March 27, 2021 by Nelius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 My guess is the Bills will try their best to move up. They’re in a win now mode, they can’t mortgage their future a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I wouldn't hate it, I just worry that he doesn't really give our offense a new dimension. Everything I read about him says he's more of a grind out yardage kind of RB. We need a home run threat. I would much prefer drafting Etienne or just waiting until the 2nd and drafting Gainwell. In fact if I had to put an ideal Bills draft together it would be Rondale Moore in the 1st and Gainwell in the 2nd. Good luck opposing defenses. That being said if Harris ends up being the next Derrick Henry or Nick Chubb it would be a great pick at 30, so as usual I'm not going to judge any pick before they've even taken a snap in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Who at OBD is using Tony Pauline to put out disinformation? I don't see this team going RB, but stranger things have happened. This time of year believe absolutely zero about which player an organization is interested in. The likelihood it's true is remarkably low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Think anyone would do a 4th for Singletary? I know it’s easy to make fun of now, considering the way WE ran the ball (or didn’t) late last year. I think he gets too much hate. The guy has averaged 4.8 YPC in 2 seasons in the NFL. That is pretty impressive stuff. I don’t know what we do at RB, and we certainly have room for improvement, but he’s an NFL player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, SCBills said: My only counter to that is Harris/Etienne are weapons in the passing game. They’re not just runners. Singletary became straight shenanigans in the passing game last year and it hurt us in the most inopportune times. I think using the term "weapons in the passing game" makes it seem like the returns in giving RB's touches are much greater than they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 9 hours ago, The Governor said: They’re going to trade up. Why would they do this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Why would they do this Because all of the DE’s suck so they have to go either RB, CB, or WR and you’re not getting the best one at 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, The Governor said: Because all of the DE’s suck so they have to go either RB, CB, or WR and you’re not getting the best one at 30. They could easily go DT or OG with a strong bit on CB If Zaven Collins falls definite possibility I think trading up in the first round is out After the signing of Brieda I think it became a lot less likely because Maas is a hammer and breida is the speed We are not talking about T.J. Yeldon when it comes to Brita he is better than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: They could easily go DT or OG with a strong bit on CB If Zaven Collins falls definite possibility I think trading up in the first round is out After the signing of Brieda I think it became a lot less likely because Maas is a hammer and breida is the speed We are not talking about T.J. Yeldon when it comes to Brita he is better than that Apparently there isn’t a DT worth taking at 30. That’s what others here have said. My gut tells me that we’ll have to move up at least 3 or 4 spots because I don’t see the 4 QB’s going first. I could see ATL and Carolina passing in Fields. That could end up screwing us up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Logic said: In before 43 more people say "it's a smokescreen". I'm not saying it's NOT a smokescreen, by the way. For what it's worth, Benjamin Albright, who is right about the Bills more often than he's wrong about them come draft time, has also heard that the Bills are looking running back at 30. Don't shoot the messenger. I don't have a horse in this race either way. Harris would be a great pick. Him or Etienne. Both are good in the pass game. Etienne is a homerun threat from anywhere. Harris has some good playmaking skills too. Folks should stop looking at them as RBs. They are playmakers. And the Bills roster is at the point they can pick one of these dudes if they want to. Context matters. An edge at 30 might not be the best player available in spite of the position being a bigger value. Bills are in a Super Bowl window now. Beane might not want a development guy in the first round and that’s what will be there at 30. Epenesa and Johnson are already that player. Edited March 27, 2021 by purple haze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Logic said: Funny thing is, one of the few people who DID see it coming was Benjamin Albright, who just so happens to be the same guy saying the Bills are looking RB at 30. Also, I agree that Harris is the perfect fit for the Bills. Power backs go much better with spread offenses than speed backs. Come out in 10 or 11 personnel and the defense comes out in nickel or dime. Then you have a guy like Najee Harris back there and, well....the opposing defenders are gonna have to make some business decisions. a RB and a DE...our D worked hard and played hard last yr but they spent whole games without getting much of a rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, The Governor said: Apparently there isn’t a DT worth taking at 30. That’s what others here have said. My gut tells me that we’ll have to move up at least 3 or 4 spots because I don’t see the 4 QB’s going first. I could see ATL and Carolina passing in Fields. That could end up screwing us up a bit. Some one is going to fall that helps us....they always do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 10 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: It's not a nerve.........it's just something we go thru every 2-3 draft seasons on here......there is always a different rationale........"the winning mindset" was a creative one......points for that. Me pointing out how nonsensical drafting a RB is in round 1 is just part of "the process". First of all.......the further we get from the regular season the further removed fans get from what actually works on the field. And I'm not saying that Beane won't make the mistake of misallocating a valuable asset.........he's made his share of mistakes like reaching past better players at more important positions to fill perceived needs at lesser ones with the likes of Cody Ford, Singletary, Moss etc. But I do think that they are more likely to pick up a player at a more important position. The financial pinch they are in will really limit their ability to re-stock much more important positions in the coming years. And the idea that "well a RB can help right away and if you get 5 top years out of them....." just doesn't actually pan out because as the position has become devalued so has the overall quality of athlete playing it. With less than a full handful of exceptions......the lead backs of today would have been the Kenny Davises of yesteryear...........fine for a short period of time.......but not up to the task longer term. Which is fine..........it's a passing league.........Josh Allen produces 8 yards on average every time he passes the ball.........Jim Brown couldn't make it worthwhile to take the ball out of his hands. The difference between top backs and guys like Singletary and Moss is less than a measly half yard per carry. Yes, but you don’t want to reach for a lesser prospect at a “more valuable” position either. A so-so DE prospect isn’t (necessarily) a better pick than a very good prospect at a “lesser” position. To be clear, I am not advocating for Harris or Etienne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Augie said: I know it’s easy to make fun of now, considering the way WE ran the ball (or didn’t) late last year. I think he gets too much hate. The guy has averaged 4.8 YPC in 2 seasons in the NFL. That is pretty impressive stuff. I don’t know what we do at RB, and we certainly have room for improvement, but he’s an NFL player. Singletary has become the latest TBD whipping boy. It is an honor that has been bestowed on some really decent solid pros like Chris Kelsey and Shaw Lawson more recently. Singletary was a a 3rd round pick who had a very good rookie year, but did suffer behind an OL that never settled in last year due to injuries and position swaps. I don’t know why people seem to love to zero in on a particular player and decide that he deserves to be berated by fan board “experts”. It seems to feed on itself as more people join into “player x sucks” and becomes emotional. Is Singletary the best RB in the league? No. Does he suck? I don’t think so. I think he has performed pretty close to expectations for his draft position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Bills have interest in the top RB in this draft. Hardly groundbreaking as they need to improve talent at the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Checked out his highlights and can see why they like him. Great balance and vision, hard to bring down and seems to always find some positive yards. He lines up out wide sometimes so he's a part of the passing game. Big dude too. I wouldn't hate the pick at 30 or maybe a few spots down into the 2nd if they think he'll be there. Get your guy and a few extra picks, that's never a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Singletary has become the latest TBD whipping boy. It is an honor that has been bestowed on some really decent solid pros like Chris Kelsey and Shaw Lawson more recently. Singletary was a a 3rd round pick who had a very good rookie year, but did suffer behind an OL that never settled in last year due to injuries and position swaps. I don’t know why people seem to love to zero in on a particular player and decide that he deserves to be berated by fan board “experts”. It seems to feed on itself as more people join into “player x sucks” and becomes emotional. Is Singletary the best RB in the league? No. Does he suck? I don’t think so. I think he has performed pretty close to expectations for his draft position. I really like Singletary for his attitude and some of his skillset but he is way too slow and not a hard enough runner to be effective as a bruiser. He does nothing super well and that won't cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) Since we all fell for the JJ Watt and other Twitter bait, let’s also hold our breath for this as well. Should work out fine. Beane does have a habit of bringing in FA RBs pre draft, then drafting RBs. Edited March 27, 2021 by benderbender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Singletary has become the latest TBD whipping boy. It is an honor that has been bestowed on some really decent solid pros like Chris Kelsey and Shaw Lawson more recently. Singletary was a a 3rd round pick who had a very good rookie year, but did suffer behind an OL that never settled in last year due to injuries and position swaps. I don’t know why people seem to love to zero in on a particular player and decide that he deserves to be berated by fan board “experts”. It seems to feed on itself as more people join into “player x sucks” and becomes emotional. Is Singletary the best RB in the league? No. Does he suck? I don’t think so. I think he has performed pretty close to expectations for his draft position. Tough to turn this around on the fans. Singletary was pretty inefffective and mostly deserved some critique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said: Tough to turn this around on the fans. Singletary was pretty inefffective and mostly deserved some critique. Again, OL run blocking was pretty bad last year. You might note that Etienne “regressed” statistically last year with a lesser OL than he had year before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Some one is going to fall that helps us....they always do Yes. Someone good could fall to 30, but someone GREAT could fall to 26 and I think it will be very difficult for us to stay put when that happens. Edited March 27, 2021 by The Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 (edited) I would love this. My dream mock first 2 picks are: Round 1. Harris RB Bama Round 2. Elijah Moore WR Ole Miss A defense would have to stop Diggs, Davis, Beasley, Sanders, Moore (Tyreek Hill 2.0) and if you want to drop 8 in coverage like these teams did against us? Fine. We’ll feed the beast Harris 30 times and shred you! (Think about what KC did to us here in Buffalo during the rain game.) o, and we have Josh freakin Allen who can’t be stopped either. Give me Najee Harris and Elijah Moore and we will have the most talented team ever in Bills history IMO. Edited March 27, 2021 by McBean 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I believe this story is only being circulated by Pauline to atone for the shabby treatment afforded by the Bills to future HOF receiver Robert Foster... * 🙄😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 10 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Why would they do this Harris probably won't make it past the Dolphins and Steelers. As much as I want to see Harris in a Bills uni, I don't want to see Najee Harris in a Dophins uni. If Miami pulls off both Pitts and Harris it spells double the trouble for Buffalo IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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