78thealltimegreat Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1. This game was alot closer then the score that drop by Singletary was enormous 2. One touchdown on their field goal drives inside the 10 and the mindset is way different 3.Seems like they lived by the theory we are home and you’re aren’t calling everything and they where right..they where incredibly physical with our WRs 4. They gave us the throws to the backs and Knox because quite frankly they had zero fear they could break one long 5. it’s been said elsewhere like last week no running game by a player not named Josh Allen killed this team particularly in short yardage overall we really aren’t that far apart but a poor game plan on both sides and a lack of a pass rush by the front 4 was the difference I literally counted on one hand the amount of quality rush on Mahomes More speed at TE and RB and an elite pass rusher and we are right there 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The biggest thing I saw last night was KC dominated the trenches on both side of the ball and it wasn't close. Hope we sure up some big uglies this year. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: 1. This game was alot closer then the score that drop by Singletary was enormous 2. One touchdown on their field goal drives inside the 10 and the mindset is way different 3.Seems like they lived by the theory we are home and you’re aren’t calling everything and they where right..they where incredibly physical with our WRs 4. They gave us the throws to the backs and Knox because quite frankly they had zero fear they could break one long 5. it’s been said elsewhere like last week no running game by a player not named Josh Allen killed this team particularly in short yardage overall we really aren’t that far apart but a poor game plan on both sides and a lack of a pass rush by the front 4 was the difference I literally counted on one hand the amount of quality rush on Mahomes More speed at TE and RB and an elite pass rusher and we are right there I dont have the heart to rewatch the game, but your assessment sounds about right. Even with Moss were in trouble at RB. Our Offensive and defensive lines are the source of our problems. Also, wouldn't hurt to get a more consistent TE and maybe Kenny Stills can be used next year to stretch the field. Brown hurt? Gabriel Davis hurt still? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I've never seen so much pre snap changes, talk from Allen. Almost every play he was talking before it changing something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, TonyBeets said: I dont have the heart to rewatch the game, but your assessment sounds about right. Even with Moss were in trouble at RB. Our Offensive and defensive lines are the source of our problems. Also, wouldn't hurt to get a more consistent TE and maybe Kenny Stills can be used next year to stretch the field. Brown hurt? Gabriel Davis hurt still? I saw Brown limping on his one leg/ knee coming into the huddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 After a week of preparations they still had no answer for stopping or even slowing down Kelce/Hill. Shameful! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: 1. This game was alot closer then the score that drop by Singletary was enormous 2. One touchdown on their field goal drives inside the 10 and the mindset is way different 3.Seems like they lived by the theory we are home and you’re aren’t calling everything and they where right..they where incredibly physical with our WRs 4. They gave us the throws to the backs and Knox because quite frankly they had zero fear they could break one long 5. it’s been said elsewhere like last week no running game by a player not named Josh Allen killed this team particularly in short yardage overall we really aren’t that far apart but a poor game plan on both sides and a lack of a pass rush by the front 4 was the difference I literally counted on one hand the amount of quality rush on Mahomes More speed at TE and RB and an elite pass rusher and we are right there Glutton for punishment? Yes the two times we settled for field goals were killer. Just can’t do that against KC. Officiating was terrible, they caused the meltdown at the end. We aren’t on KC’s level Team speed difference was quite evident. Our offense needs a little, our defense needs a lot... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) I don’t know where we’re finding an elite pass rusher. Probably the best we can do is letting Milano walk, cutting some people like Brown etc., and signing a Bud Dupree or Matthew Judon. I think we need to cut bait with Singletary. Just chalk it up to a bad pick. Moss has a role, but we desperately need speed at the RB position. That drop was inexcusable, and it’s not an overreaction to say that he singlehandedly changed the momentum of the game. Never mind the fact a JAG in Yeldon looked 10x more dangerous out there when he replaced Singletary.... and Yeldon is not dangerous. I don’t even know where to start on defense. Big changes need to come on that side of the ball. Edited January 25, 2021 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I don't know how you could watch that game and think it was even remotely close. We were gifted a TD early with the fumble and then didn't score another one until the game was over in garbage time. The teams are world's apart and it showed last night. To be fair to the Bills, the chiefs are worlds apart from everyone. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, SCBills said: I don’t know where we’re finding an elite pass rusher. Probably the best we can do is letting Milano walk, cutting some people like Brown etc., and signing a Bud Dupree or Matthew Judon. I think we need to cut bait with Singletary. Just chalk it up to a bad pick. Moss has a role, but we desperately need speed at the RB position. That drop was inexcusable, and it’s not an overreaction to say that he singlehandedly changed the momentum of the game. Never mind the fact a JAG in Yeldon looked 10x more dangerous out there when he replaced Singletary.... and Yeldon is not dangerous. Singletary is just not very good I agree unfortunately. Yeldon did look so much better both running and passing. Moss is obviously not the answer. We should have no problem addressing the RB position in free agency. Offensive and defensive lines are another story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: 1. This game was alot closer then the score that drop by Singletary was enormous 2. One touchdown on their field goal drives inside the 10 and the mindset is way different 3.Seems like they lived by the theory we are home and you’re aren’t calling everything and they where right..they where incredibly physical with our WRs 4. They gave us the throws to the backs and Knox because quite frankly they had zero fear they could break one long 5. it’s been said elsewhere like last week no running game by a player not named Josh Allen killed this team particularly in short yardage overall we really aren’t that far apart but a poor game plan on both sides and a lack of a pass rush by the front 4 was the difference I literally counted on one hand the amount of quality rush on Mahomes More speed at TE and RB and an elite pass rusher and we are right there Running game is needed in red zone. That's what killed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I agree that without the Singletary drop, which would have created a first down inside their 45 the entire game potentially changes. Instead of being stopped, we show that we can answer them drive for drive putting a little pressure on their offense and keeping our defense off the field. Could have also opened up the offense if they have to worry about Singletary as a receiver. Potentially a 14 point swing with that drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: I don’t know where we’re finding an elite pass rusher. Probably the best we can do is letting Milano walk, cutting some people like Brown etc., and signing a Bud Dupree or Matthew Judon. I think we need to cut bait with Singletary. Just chalk it up to a bad pick. Moss has a role, but we desperately need speed at the RB position. That drop was inexcusable, and it’s not an overreaction to say that he singlehandedly changed the momentum of the game. Never mind the fact a JAG in Yeldon looked 10x more dangerous out there when he replaced Singletary.... and Yeldon is not dangerous. I don’t even know where to start on defense. Big changes need to come on that side of the ball. At least a pass rushing end, 1tech, Mike(Edmunds is a liability, good QBs manipulate him too easily), speed and size at corner and a different coordinator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1. We need a running game 2. We are severely lacking an elite pass rusher 3. We couldn’t cover a TE to save our lives all season long Get it done Beane 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 It looked like KC knew they could maul our smaller WRs at the line and on their breaks without getting called. I mean the holding on Beasley was a damn mugging with how much contact there was, thank goodness it was called! You saw Mahomes could throw into windows that were much larger than what allen was working with. You don't win every game - this was tough to swallow, but the Bills have most of the pieces in place to be effective for a long long time. They just need to be smart and efficient with draft capital and cap space 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Our O-line was good all year when pass blocking but completely fell apart last night. Our receivers could not get open either, we can’t run the ball so we were basically screwed. And then the defense couldn’t stop anything which has happened a few times this year. Not our day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, TAinLA said: After a week of preparations they still had no answer for stopping or even slowing down Kelce/Hill. Shameful! There's not a team in the NFL that has that answer. The Chiefs are one of the best offenses I've seen in almost 60 years of watching football. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Process said: I don't know how you could watch that game and think it was even remotely close. We were gifted a TD early with the fumble and then didn't score another one until the game was over in garbage time. The teams are world's apart and it showed last night. To be fair to the Bills, the chiefs are worlds apart from everyone. No, they aren't worlds apart. The Bills picked a hell of a game to play absolutely flat everywhere on the field. The freaking Chiefs are a damned good team but have won a bunch of tight games. This may have been their biggest point margin victory in a long time. If they played again today I'd feel the same way I did about 14 hours ago...that we definitely can beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, london_bills said: I've never seen so much pre snap changes, talk from Allen. Almost every play he was talking before it changing something. Every time Josh audibled, Anthony Hitchens seemed to know what was coming and put the defense in the perfect coverage. Some tendencies were clearly identifiable on film. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 read a stat on twitter from some KC analyst who cover 1 retweeted. they said that mahomes threw an average of less than 5 air yards and out of 33 or so attempts only 3 of them had a defender within 1 yard. also, cover 1 pointed out that if all of our red zone drives were automatic TDs, we still don't have enough points to win the game. the O was beat up and beaten up all game, and made mistakes, and had no balance, but at the end of the day the D was just rolled and we can't beat a top team w that trash out there. our entire D personal and scheme need to be retweaked to work better. mcD had a disgusting D in carolina for long enough that i think he can get the ship righted here, and he's reworked things quickly too, so here's to hoping he will that accomplished next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Brennan Huff said: 1. We need a running game 2. We are severely lacking an elite pass rusher 3. We couldn’t cover a TE to save our lives all season long Get it done Beane Agreed. #1 should be a cheap/easy fix if McBeane acknowledges the problem. #2 will probably cost our 1st rounder for a vet difference maker but is sorely needed. #3 2nd rounder on a big nickel. We need an upgrade in speed and violence on the roster to compete against KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCockSportif Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: 1. This game was alot closer then the score that drop by Singletary was enormous 2. One touchdown on their field goal drives inside the 10 and the mindset is way different 3.Seems like they lived by the theory we are home and you’re aren’t calling everything and they where right..they where incredibly physical with our WRs 4. They gave us the throws to the backs and Knox because quite frankly they had zero fear they could break one long 5. it’s been said elsewhere like last week no running game by a player not named Josh Allen killed this team particularly in short yardage overall we really aren’t that far apart but a poor game plan on both sides and a lack of a pass rush by the front 4 was the difference I literally counted on one hand the amount of quality rush on Mahomes More speed at TE and RB and an elite pass rusher and we are right there I agree with everything except point #1. The biggest difference is that KC laid the wood offensively for most of the game. 6 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: 1. We need a running game 2. We are severely lacking an elite pass rusher 3. We couldn’t cover a TE to save our lives all season long Get it done Beane I could swear that Romo called this out last night (not going to rewatch the game), ie the Bills giving Kelce a lot of leeway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Biggest observation from this game (and the entire year)... We are very good. Built for a sustainable run for the next decade potentially. We have an elite talent at QB and a strong GM/HC duo. We have a high level young LT locked up and an elite #1 WR. The pillars you need to build a top end offense are there. I think we can all see the tinkering that needs to be done on that side of the ball. The defense needs to be overhauled. Back to my observation.... We are very good. A potential year in/year out contender. We played two games against KC this year. We were out-coached and out-talented in both games. We’re very good. We need a really strong offseason to compete with KC. That’s it. That’s the observation. KC is just so much better than us right now. Their coaches know it and coach like it. Sadly, our coaches knew it, and coached like it too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 The pass blocking was a mess. Not sure why. They’ve been decently solid all year. I’m not willing to throw that unit under the bus...but something has to change with RB and MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, TAinLA said: After a week of preparations they still had no answer for stopping or even slowing down Kelce/Hill. Shameful! Anyone know what the game plan was I sure dont. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Leslie was clueless, he must of been thinking of the Houston job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, london_bills said: I've never seen so much pre snap changes, talk from Allen. Almost every play he was talking before it changing something. I thought the same......Bills need to address Pash Rush and Run game for 2021. Was an awesome ride, they played above thier heads for some games and were very very good other games. Thanks for the Fun this season..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, colin said: read a stat on twitter from some KC analyst who cover 1 retweeted. they said that mahomes threw an average of less than 5 air yards and out of 33 or so attempts only 3 of them had a defender within 1 yard. also, cover 1 pointed out that if all of our red zone drives were automatic TDs, we still don't have enough points to win the game. the O was beat up and beaten up all game, and made mistakes, and had no balance, but at the end of the day the D was just rolled and we can't beat a top team w that trash out there. our entire D personal and scheme need to be retweaked to work better. mcD had a disgusting D in carolina for long enough that i think he can get the ship righted here, and he's reworked things quickly too, so here's to hoping he will that accomplished next season. That is nuts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 We couldn't figure out TEs all year and just happened to go up against one of the best ever in the Championship game.. Scheme/Talent mismatch. I'm not sure what Edmunds does well.. Why didn't we play Milano on Kelce within 5 yards and hit him every time and have Poyer play the same side at 10 yards on a bracket/double team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, TAinLA said: After a week of preparations they still had no answer for stopping or even slowing down Kelce/Hill. Shameful! No one has a plan for that tbh. They are elite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 its incredible we got as far as we did there are about 10 players on this team worth building on......you wouldnt miss the rest (josh, diggs, beasley, tre, edmunds, hyde, poyer) fill in with a couple borderline this team has so many needs pass rush/sacks, defending the TE, we need a TE, a #2 CB, RB, better Oline play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 We just had absolutely no answer for Hill or Kelce and Mahomes doesn’t miss throws. Score 40 or lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) We were down by 9 several times because we settled for 3 point twice when deep in the red zone and also missed a PAT. That is 9. We were still in the game deep into the 3Q but KC’s defense made everything hard by double coverage on Diggs and still able to blitz Allen. They kept him off balance, force bad throws, and got 4 sacks for -55. Beasley and Knox were good but the contributions by Singletary (drop to kill drive) and Brown (drop for interception) were negative. Davis is hurt and should not have played over McKenzie or maybe even Stills. The bigger problem was the defense giving up big plays all day with no pressure on Mahommes, and no answer for Kelce. It’s baffling that they did not take away either Hill or Kelce. KC punted once and that was in 1Q. The defense had its worst game of the season. It’s hard to even tell what their plan was it was that bad. Not a good day for a conservative offensive approach either. The Bills took a giant step this year but are clearly #2 in the AFC with Baltimore, Cleveland, Tennessee, Indy and Miami all on their heels. Beane needs to find a running back to help Allen, more speed in the lineup, and a playmaker in the defensive front 7. Edited January 25, 2021 by Bob in STL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, TonyBeets said: Singletary is just not very good I agree unfortunately. Yeldon did look so much better both running and passing. Moss is obviously not the answer. We should have no problem addressing the RB position in free agency. Offensive and defensive lines are another story. I'm kind of at a loss as to why Antonio Williams never got any play time except for the last game of the year where he looked the part at least. He didn't look out matched or scared of the situation, IDK why McD shelved him for the playoffs, thought he earned some more snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 40 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: 1. This game was alot closer then the score that drop by Singletary was enormous 2. One touchdown on their field goal drives inside the 10 and the mindset is way different 3.Seems like they lived by the theory we are home and you’re aren’t calling everything and they where right..they where incredibly physical with our WRs 4. They gave us the throws to the backs and Knox because quite frankly they had zero fear they could break one long 5. it’s been said elsewhere like last week no running game by a player not named Josh Allen killed this team particularly in short yardage overall we really aren’t that far apart but a poor game plan on both sides and a lack of a pass rush by the front 4 was the difference I literally counted on one hand the amount of quality rush on Mahomes More speed at TE and RB and an elite pass rusher and we are right there I mentioned after the game the team needed to address 3 needs, if i had to choose only two it would be RB and pass rushing DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Sadly if you take out the lucky fumble recovery at the 1, it was never a close game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Gun said: I'm kind of at a loss as to why Antonio Williams never got any play time except for the last game of the year where he looked the part at least. He didn't look out matched or scared of the situation, IDK why McD shelved him for the playoffs, thought he earned some more snaps. I think as a pure RB he's probably better than Singletary and Yeldon, I just think the pass blocking is what gets most RBS shelved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 aside from DE who can make an impact, i really am jumping on the move edmunds to OLB train. he has a ton of ability, but its just so clear he can be controlled by scheme and qb play by the other team into making mistakes, so he end up being ineffective way way way too often. i'd rather they try to work his talents into a different position where he can dictate, bumping and shadowing TEs, shallow zone stuff, and rushing up field. i suspect the decline of the tampa 2 style d has to do with the inability to get 4 DL who can create pressure by themselves, and the fact that MLB in that D is just a nearly impossible task. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Niagara Dude said: I mentioned after the game the team needed to address 3 needs, if i had to choose only two it would be RB and pass rushing DE This, and I firmly believe coaching is a huge issue on this team. Frazier can go anytime, Daboll is good and bad who needs to be consistently better and McD is scared to shoot it out with somebody, he is too conservative, which I thought he got better at after Arizona but went right back to in the playoffs. To be honest, the Colts outplayed us, if Lamar doesnt throw that pic it's most likely 10-10 and who knows who wins and we got destroyed yesterday, so McD needs to be a whole lot better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: 1. This game was alot closer then the score that drop by Singletary was enormous 2. One touchdown on their field goal drives inside the 10 and the mindset is way different 3.Seems like they lived by the theory we are home and you’re aren’t calling everything and they where right..they where incredibly physical with our WRs 4. They gave us the throws to the backs and Knox because quite frankly they had zero fear they could break one long 5. it’s been said elsewhere like last week no running game by a player not named Josh Allen killed this team particularly in short yardage overall we really aren’t that far apart but a poor game plan on both sides and a lack of a pass rush by the front 4 was the difference I literally counted on one hand the amount of quality rush on Mahomes More speed at TE and RB and an elite pass rusher and we are right there The Bills were as close to beating KC last night as I was to banging Cheryl Tiegs in 1978. This reminds me, sooner or later I have to take the poster down. 5684B18B-EAA7-4779-B2B2-C7BD8A78EE4A.webp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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