YoloinOhio Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Interesting given he was Ben’s choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Someone needed to be sacrificed to the football gods. Of course it won't be the HC and his gutless 4th down call.. Edited January 14, 2021 by wjag 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 About time. He was reason no. 1 why they were so awful. The offense looked a million times better when they go no huddle and Ben just calls his own plays. Fichtner always reminded me of a state department bureaucrat. He was the under-secretary to Guam, and slowly got promoted through the ranks and found himself to be Secretary of State through the sheer machinations of organizational restructuring and bureaucracy. 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Hopefully not related to Bill..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Fall guy... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Fire Ben. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Maybe a fall guy, but I think the future is pounding on the Steelers front door, and that future doesn’t include Ben. Time to turn the page in Pittsburgh. Jmo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Fichtner a very fireable name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, wjag said: Someone needed to be sacrificed to the football gods. Of course it won't be the HC and his gutless 4th down call.. Or the DC who gave up 48 points to the Browns... the Steelers came back to score 37 points with Ben throwing 68 times for 501 yards, 4 TDs, 4 INTs. So, it was all the OC's fault. Like in Miami when the Bills beat them by 56 in week 17. So Chan Gailey gets the nudge out the door. The HC lost control of A Brown, L Bell in the past and now Juju is dancing on opponents field emblems before games. Lets fire the OC tho. Think about one thing, HC Tomlin has had Big Ben his entire tenure as Steelers HC and look what happened last season when he didn't have him... Edited January 14, 2021 by Nihilarian 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 There are worse offensive coordinators in the league. The bigger issue is the talent just isnt very good anymore. A majority of the offensive line is old, the runningbacks arent world beaters which is compounded by the bad oline play. Their wideouts are only average, and the one real dynamic talent they have Diontae Johnson cant hold onto the ball. More than anything they have a guy at Quarterback who cant move anymore. They really need to hit the reset on the entire thing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) Check out Pat McAfee's segment with Mark Madden from 1/11 for a very entertaining run down of the Steelers' issues/Ben's future there and that the OC would likely be the one taking the hit... 8:15 in Edited January 14, 2021 by NoHuddleKelly12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/steelers-part-ways-with-offensive-coordinator-randy-fichtner-two-other-assistant-coaches/ Quote The Pittsburgh Steelers will not renew the contracts of offensive coordinator Randy Fichtner, offensive line coach Shaun Sarrett and defensive backs coach Tom Bradley, the team announced on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Fire that Fichkner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 That was obviously coming. They looked really bad for the last 6 weeks or so and he had no answers or ability to fix their ground game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 48 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Maybe a fall guy, but I think the future is pounding on the Steelers front door, and that future doesn’t include Ben. Time to turn the page in Pittsburgh. Jmo Didn't the Steelers have to beg Ben to play this season? He looked like he was ready to retire last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Fire Ben. Agreed. It’ll really hurt their cap, though. He’s due $41m next year I believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, Nihilarian said: Or the DC who gave up 48 points to the Browns... the Steelers came back to score 37 points with Ben throwing 68 times for 501 yards, 4 TDs, 4 INTs. So, it was all the OC's fault. Like in Miami when the Bills beat them by 56 in week 17. So Chan Gailey gets the nudge out the door. The HC lost control of A Brown, L Bell in the past and now Juju is dancing on opponents field emblems before games. Lets fire the OC tho. Think about one thing, HC Tomlin has had Big Ben his entire tenure as Steelers HC and look what happened last season when he didn't have him... The 8-8 last year was a pretty incredible job by Tomlin actually, I would say it was one of his better coaching jobs as a Head Coach. I didn't like the job Fitchner did this year, it was about more than the Browns game. They struggled mightily to run the ball all year and he could not work that out at all. That said, the biggest problem on offense for Pittsburgh is Ben and his line are old, slow and in Ben's case I think half checked out. The DC Keith Butler had a solid year but I think his limitations were shown too because when he lost star players he demonstrated no ability to adjust around their loss. It might be close to hard reset time in Pittsburgh but if Mike Tomlin became available and wanted to coach he would be in a job within a week. I have no doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Interesting given he was Ben’s choice this is really the most interesting part, and there are many interesting parts. Ben is a big crybaby when he doesn't have the OC he wants, who does things the way he wants, even if the results are good. This means that either Ben and Fichtner had a rift, or the Steelers are telling Ben it's no longer "your" team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Fichtner a very fireable name. On the contrary! That's a great German name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 No way Big Ben coming back for another season... He has lost his game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, TBBills said: No way Big Ben coming back for another season... He has lost his game. See above, steelers go into cap jail... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: Hopefully not related to Bill..... I had Bill run out in front of me in a crosswalk while I was in my car last year lol. The day before the home opener 😆 I was screaming and realized OH SNAP I JUST ALMOST HIT ALEX MAHONE! Good times lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 31 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Agreed. It’ll really hurt their cap, though. He’s due $41m next year I believe. This is what is worrisome about the huge contracts top flight qb’s must get. Once they lose top flight status the team is in cap jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: On the contrary! That's a great German name! That you, William? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: This is what is worrisome about the huge contracts top flight qb’s must get. Once they lose top flight status the team is in cap jail. Depends how they’re structured, but I hear you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: I had Bill run out in front of me in a crosswalk while I was in my car last year lol. The day before the home opener 😆 I was screaming and realized OH SNAP I JUST ALMOST HIT ALEX MAHONE! Good times lol Prison Break was an awesome, awesome show. Two of the most unredeemable characters ever, Alex Mahone, and Theodore "T-Bag" Bagwell, completely redeemed in the final season. Bill Fichtner and Robert Knepper are two of the finest actors working today. I love watching them in any role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 52 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Didn't the Steelers have to beg Ben to play this season? He looked like he was ready to retire last season. Not that I read or heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Anyone else thinking potential Daboll replacement if it god forbit comes to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I think Todd Haley is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, TBBills said: No way Big Ben coming back for another season... He has lost his game. If old Benny has anything to say about he'll be there with bells on. Has 40 million reasons to show up for the last year of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: The 8-8 last year was a pretty incredible job by Tomlin actually, I would say it was one of his better coaching jobs as a Head Coach. I didn't like the job Fitchner did this year, it was about more than the Browns game. They struggled mightily to run the ball all year and he could not work that out at all. That said, the biggest problem on offense for Pittsburgh is Ben and his line are old, slow and in Ben's case I think half checked out. The DC Keith Butler had a solid year but I think his limitations were shown too because when he lost star players he demonstrated no ability to adjust around their loss. It might be close to hard reset time in Pittsburgh but if Mike Tomlin became available and wanted to coach he would be in a job within a week. I have no doubt about that. Mike Tomlin is overrated. The team looks disinterested most of the time and so does Tomlin. He was a good coach for a long time. But what's he been there 14 years now. The message gets stale after that long in most programs coming from the same guy. (Two exceptions are Nick Saban and Bill Belichik) Even in Philly w Andy Reid it was time for a change. He regained his mojo in KC. Tomlin's team gave up almost 50 points to a division rival that had not won a playoff game since before the coming of Jesus Christ. So they blame the OC?? Wow. The Steelers are an overrated franchise because they do things the "Steeler Way". HIring 3 coaches since 1969. That may have worked in the Chuck Noll era. But not in the modern world of professional football. At least the Eagles got it right getting rid of Doug the slug Pederson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Depends how they’re structured, but I hear you. The Steelers have a bit done what New England did at the end which is kick the can and load up. That in my view is the way to do it when you have an obvious franchise guy coming to the end. It worked better for New England though, they got championships out of it. Just now, Paup 1995MVP said: Mike Tomlin is overrated. The team looks disinterested most of the time and so does Tomlin. He was a good coach for a long time. But what's he been there 14 years now. The message gets stale after that long in most programs coming from the same guy. (Two exceptions are Nick Saban and Bill Belichik) Even in Philly w Andy Reid it was time for a change. He regained his mojo in KC. Tomlin's team gave up almost 50 points to a division rival that had not won a playoff game since before the coming of Jesus Christ. So they blame the OC?? Wow. The Steelers are an overrated franchise because they do things the "Steeler Way". HIring 3 coaches since 1969. That may have worked in the Chuck Noll era. But not in the modern world of professional football. At least the Eagles got it right getting rid of Doug the slug Pederson. Depends how you "rate him" but he has never had a losing season as a Head Coach. I don't think Tomlin is an elite coach, if people do then he is overrated, but he isn't some bum either. And they haven't blamed the OC for one game. That is not what is going on here. The OC has carried the can for an offense that has really struggled most of the way down the stretch. Personally I think Ben is as much part of that problem as anyone, but Fitchner, Tomlin, Butler... they all have blame to take too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 For that amount of loot, I'm certain Ben will have a sudden change of heart about mentoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 51 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Mike Tomlin is overrated. The team looks disinterested most of the time and so does Tomlin. He was a good coach for a long time. But what's he been there 14 years now. The message gets stale after that long in most programs coming from the same guy. (Two exceptions are Nick Saban and Bill Belichik) Even in Philly w Andy Reid it was time for a change. He regained his mojo in KC. Tomlin's team gave up almost 50 points to a division rival that had not won a playoff game since before the coming of Jesus Christ. So they blame the OC?? Wow. The Steelers are an overrated franchise because they do things the "Steeler Way". HIring 3 coaches since 1969. That may have worked in the Chuck Noll era. But not in the modern world of professional football. At least the Eagles got it right getting rid of Doug the slug Pederson. He's a vastly overrated coach imo. His super bowl win - Avoided manning in the playoffs (played chargers and ravens), and it was the year brady tore his ACL. 2010 they made it to the super bowl, and guess who they avoided again... manning and brady. This time it was ravens and jets. Hell, his last 3 playoff wins are against miami (that 2016 gase playoff team that was bad on o and d and somehow made it), cincy (aj mccarron), and KC (pre-mahomes) - those are the 3 playoff wins since 2011. Losses to Ravens, Broncos, Patriots, Jags, Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: The Steelers have a bit done what New England did at the end which is kick the can and load up. That in my view is the way to do it when you have an obvious franchise guy coming to the end. It worked better for New England though, they got championships out of it. Depends how you "rate him" but he has never had a losing season as a Head Coach. I don't think Tomlin is an elite coach, if people do then he is overrated, but he isn't some bum either. And they haven't blamed the OC for one game. That is not what is going on here. The OC has carried the can for an offense that has really struggled most of the way down the stretch. Personally I think Ben is as much part of that problem as anyone, but Fitchner, Tomlin, Butler... they all have blame to take too. 3 playoff wins since arians left, and i outlined them. Playoffs in 5 of 9 years, 3 total playoff wins. Never beat manning or brady in the playoffs. So for basically the 15 years coaching, it was patriots colts and later denver that you had to beat - and he has 0 playoff wins over those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 hours ago, co_springs_billsfan said: Fall guy... Great show 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: They really need to hit the reset on the entire thing. The scariest thing an NFL franchise must consider, especially without a solid QB. .....but you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: About time. He was reason no. 1 why they were so awful. The offense looked a million times better when they go no huddle and Ben just calls his own plays. Fichtner always reminded me of a state department bureaucrat. He was the under-secretary to Guam, and slowly got promoted through the ranks and found himself to be Secretary of State through the sheer machinations of organizational restructuring and bureaucracy. I thought Big Ben hand-picked him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Interesting given he was Ben’s choice I thought their offense was an embarrassment, and this dismissal is well-deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, TroutDog said: Agreed. It’ll really hurt their cap, though. He’s due $41m next year I believe. According to Spotrac, his contract is $42 million but his dead Cap hit is ~$22 million, meaning a savings of about $20 million....that's a lot of green to be spent on O-line... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts