Milano should have been benched

[Back2Buff]

I'm not sure I have ever seen a worse performance from a LB.  Every single play the Bills were beat on was because of him.

 

The guy was blitzing the wrong lane, missing tackles, not staying with his man in coverage, and consistently out of position.

 

They needed to make the switch early to go to Klein and Milano should have been glued to bench.

[BuffaloBill]

I had no idea Leslie Frazier posted here. Are you and McD having a disagreement?

[BillnutinHouston]

Regarding Milano not staying with his man in coverage, are you referring to the play where Milano passed off his guy to Tre as per the design of the defense, but Tre mistakenly went in the wrong direction?

Edited January 10, 2021 by BillnutinHouston

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Activate Dodson to give us options here at LB. I love Milano but he absolutely struggled yesterday.

[Captain_Quint]

1 minute ago, BillnutinHouston said:

Regarding Milano not staying with his man in coverage, are you referring to the play where Milano passed off his guy to the Tre as per the design of the defense, but Tre mistakenly went in the wrong direction?

Saw that too. It was on White for that play from what I saw. 

[Back2Buff]

Just now, BillnutinHouston said:

Regarding Milano not staying with his man in coverage, are you referring to the play where Milano passed off his guy to the Tre as per the design of the defense, but Tre mistakenly went in the wrong direction?

 

There was way more than 1 play.

 

He jumped Offside in first half which resulted in a huge free play to Indy.

 

Got beat by Hines and 2 and 8 in redzone.

 

3 and 7 first drive for Indy in 2nd half, blitz in wrong lane

 

3 and 6 same drive, easily handled by RB on blitz

 

Pasquel TD he is clueless. What the heck was he doing?

 

3rd and 7 next possession, get burned by TE bad

 

Doyle TD, again what is Milano doing??  Guarding no one on sideline while Doyle goes upfield.  There wasn't a Indy player within 10 yards on Milano, and the closet one was Doyle.

 

3rd and 5 on last drive, beat again which allows a 4th and 1

[buffalo2218]

Milano was also the one that got the stop on Indy's first 2 pt conversion attempt. Yes he had a bad game, it doesn't erase all the good he has done this year

[SoCal Deek]

Milano had an odd game. He was either terrible or great. I’ll assume he was over hyped for the playoffs. But yes, in general he was a total mess.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I don't think Linebackers played a good game but I think they were not in the best positions to make plays

I didn't like the defensive scheme this game. We played small all game. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

33 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

I'm not sure I have ever seen a worse performance from a LB.  Every single play the Bills were beat on was because of him.

 

The guy was blitzing the wrong lane, missing tackles, not staying with his man in coverage, and consistently out of position.

 

They needed to make the switch early to go to Klein and Milano should have been glued to bench.

I was thinking of posting something similar yesterday. He had an absolutely dreadful game. Especially,

in coverage— he was getting schooled by the TE’s on very basic routes.

[RunTheBall]

Why do some people think players are robots and always perform at peak performance??

 

All players have bad games at times and when you play against good teams/coaches that’s going to happen more than when you dominate the competition.

 

That doesn’t mean you bench a guy as soon as he makes a couple mistakes. We’d have no one at any position on the field if that were the case.

 

[John from Riverside]

I honestly was surprised that Dodson was not activated this has nothing to do with Milano who is still working his way back from an injury I just thought they would’ve split reps

[DrPJax]

11 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Activate Dodson to give us options here at LB. I love Milano but he absolutely struggled yesterday.

Go back and focus on edmunds. He was terrible. Arm tackles which backs and other break , gets stoned at the line , was driven yards backwards by the opponent’s tight ends , drops back all the time behind the sticks or yardage need for a first down and waits for the ball carrier to come towards him as he never drives thru a tackle or hit.  If this is a pro bowl lb , guys like Conan , bennnet, spikes, etc should be HOF by now. Milano does cover well , does make tackles for loss , deflected passes today , and does cause fumbles ( was in on the stop that should have been ruled a fumble today).  Both LBS today were hampered by Frazier’s crazy’s drop back schemes today. 

[dave mcbride]

3 minutes ago, DrPJax said:

Go back and focus on edmunds. He was terrible. Arm tackles which backs and other break , gets stoned at the line , was driven yards backwards by the opponent’s tight ends , drops back all the time behind the sticks or yardage need for a first down and waits for the ball carrier to come towards him as he never drives thru a tackle or hit.  If this is a pro bowl lb , guys like Conan , bennnet, spikes, etc should be HOF by now. Milano does cover well , does make tackles for loss , deflected passes today , and does cause fumbles ( was in on the stop that should have been ruled a fumble today).  Both LBS today were hampered by Frazier’s crazy’s drop back schemes today. 

Edmunds had something like 3 big pass breakups.

[Back2Buff]

Let's also be honest with ourselves and notice that this D was best when Milano was a rotational player.  When Milano was playing just 3rd downs, and Klein was playing the majority, this D was rocking.

 

The  D stunk early on when Milano was healthy, he got injuried, AJ was used wrong, and it struggled.  Klein used as a north-south LB and Milano plays on 3rd down, this D was great.

[TH3]

42 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

I'm not sure I have ever seen a worse performance from a LB.  Every single play the Bills were beat on was because of him.

 

The guy was blitzing the wrong lane, missing tackles, not staying with his man in coverage, and consistently out of position.

 

They needed to make the switch early to go to Klein and Milano should have been glued to bench.

So parts of the fan base have gone from half full to 1/32 empty.

Good grief ...get a grip

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

Edmunds had something like 3 big pass breakups.

Edmunds is an anomaly for sure. I’m not a big fan. He’s around the ball a lot as you’d expect from a MLB, but he’s a head scratcher for me on many plays.

2 minutes ago, TH3 said:

So parts of the fan base have gone from half full to 1/32 empty.

Good grief ...get a grip

It’s a football chat room. Relax. I’m pretty sure Milano isn’t on here. It’s OK to ‘chat’ about the game. That’s the definition of a CHAT ROOM . 😉

[TH3]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Edmunds is an anomaly for sure. I’m not a big fan. He’s around the ball a lot as you’d expect from a MLB, but he’s a head scratcher for me on many plays.

It’s a football chat room. Relax. I’m pretty sure Milano isn’t on here. It’s OK to ‘chat’ about the game. That’s the definition of a CHAT ROOM . 😉

Nah...wake up this morning after a playoff W over a very good team and every thread is post by some amateur who has no access to A22...no idea what the responsibilities are for that play, no concept that the other team went 11-5 and has good players and coaches too......The people who need to RELAX are the freaking Sunday morning coaches.

[DrPJax]

1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

Edmunds had something like 3 big pass breakups.

Yep. That was about his best work. I think I saw two. They were good plays. He got owned the rest of the time. Watch him getting owned by a tight end driving him ten yards downfield on a run to the left sidelines by their second back in. 27 yard scamper. Or watch him dive at the back on fourth down , wide open shot and he arm tackles the guys ankles who then proceeds to easily break the tackle and go for a first down. It’s pretty depressing stuff from a “ pro bowl” mlb.  He is good at pass defense but he just doesn’t make interceptions or cause fumbles or often make tackles for loss. Not saying he is not a good guy or leader. Just not what I expect from a guy with his size whose job is anchoring our d.  You have to admit when we get beat in TOP , and give up almost 500 yards that something was not great about our d and much is scheme related. I don’t blame edmunds completely as I think he is being misused.   I think if we look at PBUs as a maker of what we want from our leading LB, we are setting a low bar.  🤨🧐😀

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, TH3 said:

Nah...wake up this morning after a playoff W over a very good team and every thread is post by some amateur who has no access to A22...no idea what the responsibilities are for that play, no concept that the other team went 11-5 and has good players and coaches too......The people who need to RELAX are the freaking Sunday morning coaches.

You do realize you’re not actually coaching, right? This a chat room for Bills fans. All you’re reading is pent up nervousness from a fan base that’s waited 25 years for a win and don’t know what to do about that nervous energy. It’s OK....
Go Bills!

[Not at the table Karlos]

27 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

There was way more than 1 play.

 

He jumped Offside in first half which resulted in a huge free play to Indy.

 

Got beat by Hines and 2 and 8 in redzone.

 

3 and 7 first drive for Indy in 2nd half, blitz in wrong lane

 

3 and 6 same drive, easily handled by RB on blitz

 

Pasquel TD he is clueless. What the heck was he doing?

 

3rd and 7 next possession, get burned by TE bad

 

Doyle TD, again what is Milano doing??  Guarding no one on sideline while Doyle goes upfield.  There wasn't a Indy player within 10 yards on Milano, and the closet one was Doyle.

 

3rd and 5 on last drive, beat again which allows a 4th and 1

Watch the replay of him “jumping Offside” he times it perfectly. The ball moves and his foot lands where the ball was. So great play by Milano horrible call by the refs. 
 

You do understand the play call dictates the gap that he blitzes through for the most part. 
 

He’s a former safety and a coverage LB he’s about the same size as a RB. He’s not expected to blow up blockers. 
 

the Doyle TD was 100% on tre white. 
 

the rest I’ll have to go back and look at but from what I remember you’re completely overreacting 

[Brennan Huff]

Indy had a good game plan against us until Frank got in his own way. We benefited immensely from poor decisions 

[Solomon Grundy]

40 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

There was way more than 1 play.

 

He jumped Offside in first half which resulted in a huge free play to Indy.

 

Got beat by Hines and 2 and 8 in redzone.

 

3 and 7 first drive for Indy in 2nd half, blitz in wrong lane

 

3 and 6 same drive, easily handled by RB on blitz

 

Pasquel TD he is clueless. What the heck was he doing?

 

3rd and 7 next possession, get burned by TE bad

 

Doyle TD, again what is Milano doing??  Guarding no one on sideline while Doyle goes upfield.  There wasn't a Indy player within 10 yards on Milano, and the closet one was Doyle.

 

3rd and 5 on last drive, beat again which allows a 4th and 1

This is why I couldn't understand the "pass off". After he let Doyle go, there was no one left for him to defend except the down holder. Milano's reaction after the play was very revealing. But I digress...

12 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Watch the replay of him “jumping Offside” he times it perfectly. The ball moves and his foot lands where the ball was. So great play by Milano horrible call by the refs. 
 

You do understand the play call dictates the gap that he blitzes through for the most part. 
 

He’s a former safety and a coverage LB he’s about the same size as a RB. He’s not expected to blow up blockers. 
 

the Doyle TD was 100% on tre white. 
 

the rest I’ll have to go back and look at but from what I remember you’re completely overreacting 

All I can say is that when Klein was sent on a blitz, he got home

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Someone tell me a player who had a PERFECT game.  
 

l’ll wait for the answer.  
 

complain complain complain 

 

if Milano is soooooo bad the coaches would bench him. 
 

[Big Turk]

56 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

There was way more than 1 play.

 

He jumped Offside in first half which resulted in a huge free play to Indy.

 

Got beat by Hines and 2 and 8 in redzone.

 

3 and 7 first drive for Indy in 2nd half, blitz in wrong lane

 

3 and 6 same drive, easily handled by RB on blitz

 

Pasquel TD he is clueless. What the heck was he doing?

 

3rd and 7 next possession, get burned by TE bad

 

Doyle TD, again what is Milano doing??  Guarding no one on sideline while Doyle goes upfield.  There wasn't a Indy player within 10 yards on Milano, and the closet one was Doyle.

 

3rd and 5 on last drive, beat again which allows a 4th and 1

 

He had nearly perfect coverage on Hines and Rivers made a pinpoint throw. 90% of the time that ball is is incomplete. I am not sure what else you wanted him to do there. Sometimes both sides just make good plays and you have to tip your hat to the other team.

Edited January 10, 2021 by Big Turk

[billsbackto81]

All our LBs were brutal yesterday, not just Milano. Colts have an exceptional OLine and they showed it.  

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

This is an incredibly dumb thread.  Milano had a bad game by his standards but he's a top-3 asset for our defense after Tre and Poyer.

[Jpsredemption]

They’ve been great with him of recent. He had a bad game. When Edmunds was horrendous at the beginning of the season were people lining up to bench him in favor of an UDFA?

Just now, Jpsredemption said:

They’ve been great with him of recent. He had a bad game. When Edmunds was horrendous at the beginning of the season were people lining up to bench him in favor of an UDFA?

And don’t give me the injury crap. The guy was bad post injury too. 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

8 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

This is an incredibly dumb thread.  Milano had a bad game by his standards but he's a top-3 asset for our defense after Tre and Poyer.

Perhaps the worst thread I've ever seen.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

The Colts O-Line absolutely destroyed our D-Line and I think that spilled into our LB’s making poor decisions. The Colts O-Line was just pushing us off the LOS like it was child’s play, Im surprised they didn’t run the football a lot more then they already did. 
 

The Good news is we will not see a O-Line of that caliber the rest of the way. The Colts are a very good team capable of beating any team in the playoffs. 

[poblano]

1 hour ago, Back2Buff said:

 

There was way more than 1 play.

 

He jumped Offside in first half which resulted in a huge free play to Indy.

 

Got beat by Hines and 2 and 8 in redzone.

 

3 and 7 first drive for Indy in 2nd half, blitz in wrong lane

 

3 and 6 same drive, easily handled by RB on blitz

 

Pasquel TD he is clueless. What the heck was he doing?

 

3rd and 7 next possession, get burned by TE bad

 

Doyle TD, again what is Milano doing??  Guarding no one on sideline while Doyle goes upfield.  There wasn't a Indy player within 10 yards on Milano, and the closet one was Doyle.

 

3rd and 5 on last drive, beat again which allows a 4th and 1

Most of those plays the result would have been different with a little pressure on Rivers, you can check his missed passes and see he threw a bit earlie, no player can cover for a long time.

 

And the offside, is wrong play design, or adjustment from the players left in coverage, he left the zone where the pass were throw, and no one cover that zone.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

13 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

All our LBs were brutal yesterday, not just Milano. Colts have an exceptional OLine and they showed it.  

the Colts made some good plays they marched down the field BUT were HELD when it mattered. Because they are a good team.   
 

let them eat all the clock they want if the result is 0 points. 
 

[MasterStrategist]

1 hour ago, Back2Buff said:

 

There was way more than 1 play.

 

He jumped Offside in first half which resulted in a huge free play to Indy.

 

Got beat by Hines and 2 and 8 in redzone.

 

3 and 7 first drive for Indy in 2nd half, blitz in wrong lane

 

3 and 6 same drive, easily handled by RB on blitz

 

Pasquel TD he is clueless. What the heck was he doing?

 

3rd and 7 next possession, get burned by TE bad

 

Doyle TD, again what is Milano doing??  Guarding no one on sideline while Doyle goes upfield.  There wasn't a Indy player within 10 yards on Milano, and the closet one was Doyle.

 

3rd and 5 on last drive, beat again which allows a 4th and 1

Clueless....really glad your armchair comments are just that.

 

Klein is NOT in the same stratosphere to Milano in coverage.  Blitzing yes, similar, but we aren't blitzing Milano every playa nd you give away our plan if Klein is out there just to blitz.

 

Of all the comments you made above, your lack of knowledge really shines through in the Doyle TD comment.  Milano was in his zone, Bills were in a cover 3 or cover 4 and it was likely Tre White who got out of position.  Go listen to the Milano post game presser and you will hear him say there was a communication breakdown.

 

 

[billsfan_34]

Should he have been benched when he punched the ball loose on the fumble that was inconclusive?

[MasterStrategist]

This might go down as WORST topic/post of the year by the original poster...

 

Some ppl just don't know what they are watching

[Not at the table Karlos]

35 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

All I can say is that when Klein was sent on a blitz, he got home

We had 0 sacks. So that is clearly not accurate

[BillsMafi$]

Milano and Edmunds were terrible. Neither can cover 

[Codyny13]

I didn’t like the linebacker play yesterday, thought we should’ve seen more Aj Klein on early downs.

[Solomon Grundy]

3 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

We had 0 sacks. So that is clearly not accurate

I meant in prior games.

[TonyBeets]

Let me sum this up.  The defense as a whole had a bad game.  

 

We cannot get pressure with the front 4, so were forced to blitz and it puts the rest of the defense in a more vulnerable position.  We are simply not good up front and it trickles down.

Edited January 10, 2021 by TonyBeets