Spiderweb Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Irv said: Are you kidding? 3 Bills, not 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, NoSaint said: easier said than done and in that situation it’s chaos but if tre goes up one handed I was just about to post this same thing. It's the only way you get your maximum vertical and I hope the DB coaches make sure they learn from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: I think you're right. Tre was ready to grab the ball but Poyer knocked him out. Goodness gracious... Hops hands were higher but tres hands were inside. So hop has to make the catch through tres hands and body if Poyer doesn’t clear him out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said: I mean it was 3 guys, but who's counting It really was 2 poyer was late...those two were pretty well positioned though 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Was it Addison who went for a diving sack and missed? Had he stayed on his feet and pursued Murray to the sideline would that have killed the play? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Adamb412 said: Nope not the hail murray. It's the Phoenix fluke stadium is in Glendale, isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: Now literally the whole sports world is laughing at us right now and riding Hopkins coattail. Hopkins have won me money before so I can’t even be mad at him I watched this game with a lot of fans of various teams who described it as the luckiest play they've ever seen...so its not the whole world at the very least 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Simon said: I was just about to post this same thing. It's the only way you get your maximum vertical and I hope the DB coaches make sure they learn from this. It’s the NFL, Tre should know to bat the ball down. I get it though, your in perfect position to make a play and going for the pick is the more natural play. this play would not be scrutinized so much if it there was more time on the clock. But again, he gotta be aware of the situation, we didn’t need the ball. Edited November 16, 2020 by BananaB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: It really was 2 poyer was late...those two were pretty well positioned though 🤣 TBH I’m not persuaded yet that Poyer didn’t interfere with Tre’s efforts Hopkins has height on him though no is good enough and strong enough to bring his hands together over Tre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: TBH I’m not persuaded yet that Poyer didn’t interfere with Tre’s efforts Hopkins has height on him though no is good enough and strong enough to bring his hands together over Tre He absolutely cleared Tre out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 It was a play of a lifetime. It happens. Let’s not over react over it. They can try that 100 times probably only works once. More encouraged to see the offense again drive down clutch for the go ahead than worried about a fluke amazing play by two extremely talented players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Another thing that nobody has mentioned is that Murray getting that far outside there completely changed the delivery angle and put Poyer in a tougher position to defend it which is likely why he was late and a bit out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Locomark said: I was saying Poyer was playing another man.. smartass so he was late to the play... watch again Ethan. I was agreeing with you. I'm not debating why Poyer was late. All I'm saying is instead of playing the ball he should have tried to dislodge the ball instead of trying to knock it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: TBH I’m not persuaded yet that Poyer didn’t interfere with Tre’s efforts Hopkins has height on him though no is good enough and strong enough to bring his hands together over Tre Yep I think poyer was trying to get in just as the ball got there to disrupt everybody but it was more friendly fire than anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: It was a play of a lifetime. It happens. Let’s not over react over it. They can try that 100 times probably only works once. More encouraged to see the offense again drive down clutch for the go ahead than worried about a fluke amazing play by two extremely talented players. 100% agree. Let's move on. If they are 3-1 in this quarter they will be 9-3 and the division will be theirs if they beat NewEngland and Miami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Maybe if Addison doesn't dive at Murray and continues to chase him; Murray doesn't have time and a platform to launch from. This. Though in his post game presser McDermott refers to him as "falling down" so maybe it was a Kroft on the sideline moment. Anyway the role of the pass rush in allowing Murray to escape contain and buy time to make that throw doesn't seem to be getting any focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: You’re acting like Hopkins is 6’10 and jumped 6’ over tre. My point is you’re wrong. Tre got both hands on the ball. He was right there with Hopkins. If he would have knocked it down instead of going for pick we win. Go back and watch it again and look at the screen shots. Where is the shot you see where Tre got his hands on the ball? Because in the shots I see, he doesn't come near it. I think it could have been better defensed, but I don't know how the guys are coached. It seems to me they were all going to break up the pass where if Hyde comes down on Hopkins arms and Tre' goes to swat the ball away maybe they defend it. But it was a great play by a great WR and a rising star at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 hours ago, beer said: I mean the announcers called it right as a murray moment. perfect throw. bills defenders all over hopkins. i cant fault them on that, that ball hit hopkins hands perfectly Yes, I don’t fault the DBs on that play. Hopkins had height advantage, arm length, etc. on that play and was just able to get up higher and pluck the ball out of the air. It did look like White had his arm in there with a possible chance at tugging the ball out but Hyde bumped into him, knocking him away but I can’t fault Hyde on that either. They were all going for the ball. It sucks, but it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 hours ago, metbill said: Go Bills, wait, what???? You mean the Bills find a new way to lose? Is there any other team that could ever have these kind of losses??????? Yes, the Chargers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 All I know is that eight hours on I still feel sick in the stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Still wondering why White was so shallow & why the backside safety didn’t punch it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Still wondering why White was so shallow & why the backside safety didn’t punch it away. Nobody even pushed him around, there were 4 of them and they let him high point the ball. They could have fought for the ball and pushed him out of the way. A penalty is better than letting him catch it and how often do they call penalties on hail Mary's . That was ***** weak, I really want this team to get tougher. That was embarrassing and unacceptable, I'm really glad they get a week off after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I don’t understand why Davis wasn’t out there as it was obvious what they were going to do and why they didn’t try and just bat it away. Tough loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Where is the shot you see where Tre got his hands on the ball? Because in the shots I see, he doesn't come near it. I think it could have been better defensed, but I don't know how the guys are coached. It seems to me they were all going to break up the pass where if Hyde comes down on Hopkins arms and Tre' goes to swat the ball away maybe they defend it. But it was a great play by a great WR and a rising star at QB. Just watched it again. Hands is wrong he gets fingertips on the ball. But the point remains that if he goes for the knock down he easily could have done it. Edited November 16, 2020 by Not at the table Karlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYGPopgun10 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, metbill said: Go Bills, wait, what???? You mean the Bills find a new way to lose? Is there any other team that could ever have these kind of losses??????? Yes. They're called the Atlanta Falcons. Followed by the Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Irv said: Are you kidding? You would think Poyer, Hyde, Tre being all over there would have knocked it down instead of trying to go for the pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Neo said: I’m a reasonable man. I try not to say dumb things. I’m 59 years old. I’m 30 pounds overweight. I’ve had two ACL reconstructions, two scopes, a broken ankle and a grade III high ankle sprain, all on my left side .... If I’m playing g safety on that play, there’s no completion. There may be a flag, I may be on my way to jail, but there’s no completion. I want to hear what they think they should have been doing. Honest self assessment ... not a great post. Oh, there’s a legitimate point in there, but not a great post. Put time and distance between pain and post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, Hebert19 said: Honestly tre couldn't have done much more. He high pointed that perfect. Beat by a phenomenal play. Thing is... Tre had his hand in there, on the ball. He actually twists Hopkin’s because he’s got a hand on the ball. But Poyer knocks him off. There may have been a chance of Poyer doesn’t blow up Tre, that Tre might have been able to pull the ball away once on the ground. Even if Poyer hits Hopkin’s it may have helped Tre pull the ball away. Never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 11 hours ago, matter2003 said: Yeah, I mean Hopkins is bigger and taller and he high pointed the ball. It was a perfect throw up high. What can you do? These flukey plays happen. They could run that 50 more times and go 0 for 50. It happens. It sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, NYGPopgun10 said: Yes. They're called the Atlanta Falcons. Followed by the Chargers. And the Detroit Lions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiner13 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Yes, that was the play that won the game for the Cards, but it is not what lost the game for the Bills. Defense blew a big lead, Offense with 5 straight drives the ended in 2 Ints and 3 punts, one of which was 14 yards. This was an all around loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKelly12 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Monday morning quarterbacking is always cheap therapy... I would have had Gabriel Davis in on the last play to knock the ball down. This was a game they should have lost with the way they played in the 3rd and part of the 4th.... BUT, this is the type of game they need headed into a playoff run. They didn't quit and hopefully they can draw from that when it's needed again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 You have a 6'5 LB that runs a 4.5. You don't need a WR, you need a good coach. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 Veteran DB's and team leaders to cover 1 guy and they still can't do it ;.) YOU GOT MOSSED 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKelly12 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I thought about that....but Edmunds tends to be out of position quite a bit lately.... This play was a 1 - 1,000,000...I've never seen it go against Buffalo so hopefully this is it for my lifetime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 This is such a hindsight comment. IIRC mastermind Bill Belichick did this with Gronk couple years ago and we know how it ended. I've read people advocating that Knox should've been there. Lol. Knox of all people. Same for Davis. We had good personell there, and they were all in position, they just failed to execute. Or Hopkins just executed better. Same for taking that TO. Maybe it helped Arizona, but it also helped us to be in position. Before TO complete secondary was guarding 1st down line. Maybe Hopkins would've burnt them if they snapped it immediately at people would be blaming McD for not taking TO. It was a great play by Murray and Hopkins, that's all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) I don’t believe Buffalo thought that would of been the last play. They could of thrown short or the pass they did and if it was knocked down there was still time left for another play. Edited November 16, 2020 by CaptnCoke11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: You have a 6'5 LB that runs a 4.5. You don't need a WR, you need a good coach. Oh for crying out loud; they had their 3 best DBs in position to compete for the ball against a single, 6’1” WR. They didn’t get it done. If that’s bad coaching I don’t know what to say. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: This is such a hindsight comment. IIRC mastermind Bill Belichick did this with Gronk couple years ago and we know how it ended. I've read people advocating that Knox should've been there. Lol. Knox of all people. Same for Davis. We had good personell there, and they were all in position, they just failed to execute. Or Hopkins just executed better. Same for taking that TO. Maybe it helped Arizona, but it also helped us to be in position. Before TO complete secondary was guarding 1st down line. Maybe Hopkins would've burnt them if they snapped it immediately at people would be blaming McD for not taking TO. It was a great play by Murray and Hopkins, that's all. That's just not true. You didn't have good personnel when the WR was the tallest player. Really, you could have put 11 guys on Hopkins, it's not going to matter if they are all shorter than him. You can't do anything before he touches the ball, so the amount of players on him means nothing if he can get to the ball before any of the other players guarding him. It's like it basketball when the forward gets a guard on him and immediately the PG will throw it to him. It's bad coaching to allows the guard to switch on forward, same situation with this. It's another example of bad coaching. 1 minute ago, thebandit27 said: Oh for crying out loud; they had their 3 best DBs in position to compete for the ball against a single, 6’1” WR. They didn’t get it done. If that’s bad coaching I don’t know what to say. It's a jump ball where the tallest man wins, what the heck does the amount of players have anything to do with guarding him? Those DBs can't touch Hopkins until he goes up and catches the ball. He was in the endzone already, good thing those DBs tackled him from running. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 They played prevent, allowing the Cards to get to midfield as long as they burned their timeouts. With 11 seconds left, I’m sure they were worried about a 15-20 yard sideline out that would have given them one shot from the 25-30 yard line. Ultimately, the players didn’t execute, but I do think blitzing and putting a tall player (like Davis) back there are worthy questions to ask of McDermott/Frazier. Calling a defensive timeout and giving up a Hail Mary immediately after is always going to be a rough look for the coaching staff, even if it’s primarily the fault of the players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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