DBilz2500 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Maybe the last two losses have muddled my mind but does josh Allen remind anybody of a much more athletic “in his prime” Drew Bledsoe? Both are/were big bodied players with big arms, scatter shot accuracy with the ability at any time to either have a 400 yard game or a stinker like last night. Drew was a guy that was always so close to being “The Guy” and was even capable of a few playoff wins with the right circumstances and players around him. He was one of those QBs that was always just good enough not to move on from but never quite good enough to be that elite, carry a team on his back Super Bowl winning QB. Is this the type of player that Allen may end up being? Flame away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 They are not even close to the same players. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said: Maybe the last two losses have muddled my mind but does josh Allen remind anybody of a much more athletic “in his prime” Drew Bledsoe? Both are/were big bodied players with big arms, scatter shot accuracy with the ability at any time to either have a 400 yard game or a stinker like last night. Drew was a guy that was always so close to being “The Guy” and was even capable of a few playoff wins with the right circumstances and players around him. He was one of those QBs that was always just good enough not to move on from but never quite good enough to be that elite, carry a team on his back Super Bowl winning QB. Is this the type of player that Allen may end up being? Flame away Truthfully, No, especially not at the point where Bledsoe was here. We don't know yet what Josh Allen will end up being. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Marangi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Bledsoe was pretty much a classic pocket passer. Allen is not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Josh is easy to love, while Brain Dead Drew was easy to hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I actually do see some comparisons between the 2. I actually have another modern comparison to Josh Allen: Eli Manning. Manning would make some plays that make you shake your head, but he was big in big games when he needed to be and was a better leader then most give him credit for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said: Maybe the last two losses have muddled my mind but does josh Allen remind anybody of a much more athletic “in his prime” Drew Bledsoe? Both are/were big bodied players with big arms, scatter shot accuracy with the ability at any time to either have a 400 yard game or a stinker like last night. Drew was a guy that was always so close to being “The Guy” and was even capable of a few playoff wins with the right circumstances and players around him. He was one of those QBs that was always just good enough not to move on from but never quite good enough to be that elite, carry a team on his back Super Bowl winning QB. Is this the type of player that Allen may end up being? Flame away Not even close. During his 14 year career Drew had 764 yards rushing and was sacked for 3135 yards. Josh in less than 2 1/2 years has 1284 yards rushing and 521 in sack yards. Drew was a statue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) Drew Bledsoe is one of m favorite players. They are not even even remotely close. Elway, my all-time favorite, would be a much closer comparison imo. Of course he's nowhere near that level yet. Edited October 20, 2020 by BullBuchanan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Yeah, not seeing it. Let's see: big, athletic, big arm, some accuracy issues, raw when he got to the Bills. That would be closest to ... Joe Ferguson. Of course Josh is a lot taller, but Joe was pretty good sized for his day, he had the cannon arm, and he was a very good scrambler in his early days. Oh, and he had his own accuracy issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 A larger more mobile Brett Favre, especially at the 3 year point of their careers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: A larger more mobile Brett Favre, especially at the 3 year point of their careers what I have said from day one Plays like his hairs on fire Favre used to do the same crazy head scratchers from time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said: Maybe the last two losses have muddled my mind but does josh Allen remind anybody of a much more athletic “in his prime” Drew Bledsoe? Both are/were big bodied players with big arms, scatter shot accuracy with the ability at any time to either have a 400 yard game or a stinker like last night. Drew was a guy that was always so close to being “The Guy” and was even capable of a few playoff wins with the right circumstances and players around him. He was one of those QBs that was always just good enough not to move on from but never quite good enough to be that elite, carry a team on his back Super Bowl winning QB. Is this the type of player that Allen may end up being? Flame away you are really forcing it to make the comparison. It’s more “I want to compare these” than “these naturally seem similar” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said: Maybe the last two losses have muddled my mind but does josh Allen remind anybody of a much more athletic “in his prime” Drew Bledsoe? Both are/were big bodied players with big arms, scatter shot accuracy with the ability at any time to either have a 400 yard game or a stinker like last night. Drew was a guy that was always so close to being “The Guy” and was even capable of a few playoff wins with the right circumstances and players around him. He was one of those QBs that was always just good enough not to move on from but never quite good enough to be that elite, carry a team on his back Super Bowl winning QB. Is this the type of player that Allen may end up being? Flame away I want to use the laugh reaction to this, but you don’t deserve the point to your rep for this. 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, NoSaint said: you are really forcing it to make the comparison. It’s more “I want to compare these” than “these naturally seem similar” Well yea I guess the past two losses have really put me over the edge 🤷🏻♂️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, DuckyBoys said: what I have said from day one Plays like his hairs on fire Favre used to do the same crazy head scratchers from time to time hmm .. .. i like it. A lot like Favre when he started out. Yes. Favre was so raw. Yes. but Favre got crazy accurate over time. Josh is getting there. When you can do what Josh can do physically, you really want to stick with this and see where it goes. He wants to get better so badly. the coaches will straighten him out. My bigger concern is that not many plays called have been very effective the past couple weeks. Looked to me like Josh had nowhere to go with the ball most passing plays. is that on him? don't think so... has the league figured out what Daboll is doing? Josh/Daboll has definately hit a flat spot. Need Feliciano and Spain back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Did anyone else see during the KC game, he seems to refuse to check it down to the flat even on early downs. I’ve seen The same with Aaron Rodgers recently and early on Andrew Luck early in his career. I think he needs to start using that occasionally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: hmm .. .. i like it. A lot like Favre when he started out. Yes. Favre was so raw. Yes. but Favre got crazy accurate over time. Josh is getting there. When you can do what Josh can do physically, you really want to stick with this and see where it goes. He wants to get better so badly. the coaches will straighten him out. My bigger concern is that not many plays called have been very effective the past couple weeks. Looked to me like Josh had nowhere to go with the ball most passing plays. is that on him? don't think so... has the league figured out what Daboll is doing? Josh/Daboll has definately hit a flat spot. Need Feliciano and Spain back. In the first half of the Titans game, we had short stuff open. Allen was striving to "go for the gusto" as he had with easy the previous week, but the Titans were able to smother Diggs with blankets. When he started taking that short stuff in the 2nd half, we did much better - until he "got greedy" and threw the pick. I don't know yet what was going on with the Chiefs defense. I know until they started racking up the PI penalties I saw some mugging going on. 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Did anyone else see during the KC game, he seems to refuse to check it down to the flat even on early downs. I’ve seen The same with Aaron Rodgers recently and early on Andrew Luck early in his career. I think he needs to start using that occasionally It's been a perennial problem for Allen, to the point that I suggested facetiously last year that Singletary should be equipped with the sort of 8' blaze-orange fiberglass pole used to mark Syracuse fire hydrants, in order to make him more noticable to Josh in these circumstances. It is possible that Kroft and Knox would also benefit by this novel variation on allowed NFL uniform. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I saw this and couldn't resist. I do love Josh Allen though for the record 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 57 minutes ago, Rico said: Josh is easy to love, while Brain Dead Drew was easy to hate. Brain dead? Based on what? I've met him a couple of times. He is bright and now is a very successful businessman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Brain dead? Based on what? I've met him a couple of times. He is bright and now is a very successful businessman. Brain dead as in how he played QB for the Bills particularly in 2003. Just stupid af. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 No. Not at all. Only similarities are: - Both are tall - Both can throw hard And thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyMaxio Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Yes He reminds me of this guy...only with less swagger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: Brain dead? Based on what? I've met him a couple of times. He is bright and now is a very successful businessman. Does he pat his phone three times before he answers it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, TheMightyMaxio said: Yes He reminds me of this guy...only with less swagger! You will NEVER see Josh Allen doing this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Bledsoe was the man I once paid $500 for his football card thats now worth probably $0.50 lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: Maybe the last two losses have muddled my mind but does josh Allen remind anybody of a much more athletic “in his prime” Drew Bledsoe? Both are/were big bodied players with big arms, scatter shot accuracy with the ability at any time to either have a 400 yard game or a stinker like last night. Drew was a guy that was always so close to being “The Guy” and was even capable of a few playoff wins with the right circumstances and players around him. He was one of those QBs that was always just good enough not to move on from but never quite good enough to be that elite, carry a team on his back Super Bowl winning QB. Is this the type of player that Allen may end up being? Flame away That Allen might be this type of player is my greatest fear. I've said so from the beginning. I just don't want to get stuck in Allen Limbo waiting for him to arrive while we don't really go anywhere for like 5 years. The QB I used for the example is Tannehill in Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Drew Bledsoe X 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 athleticism not even close to Josh Allen. Fitz right now is more athletic than a "in his prime" Bledsoe. Edited October 21, 2020 by Azucho98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Every QB would qualify as "much more athletic" than Bledsoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 People forget how good Bledsoe was. He is a borderline HOF QB. We can only hope Josh is this good. From Wkikpedia: Bledsoe ranks 5th all-time in completions (3,839), 7th in passing yards (44,611), and 13th in touchdown passes (251). Bledsoe's career (57.2) completion percentage is lower than all recent Hall of Fame quarterbacks with the exception of John Elway. Bledsoe's NFL career passer rating of (77.1) surpasses nine Hall of Fame Quarterbacks. Bledsoe's 37 regular season 300-yard passing games ranks 9th in league history. He also ranks 6th (with 6) in most career regular season 400-yard passing games by an NFL quarterback. He lead his team to the SuperBowl twice, once as the starter and again coming off the bench in AFC Championship game to lead Pats from behind to a win over the Steelers (yet another AFC Championship game home loss for Cowher) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 hours ago, DBilz2500 said: Maybe the last two losses have muddled my mind but does josh Allen remind anybody of a much more athletic “in his prime” Drew Bledsoe? Both are/were big bodied players with big arms, scatter shot accuracy with the ability at any time to either have a 400 yard game or a stinker like last night. Drew was a guy that was always so close to being “The Guy” and was even capable of a few playoff wins with the right circumstances and players around him. He was one of those QBs that was always just good enough not to move on from but never quite good enough to be that elite, carry a team on his back Super Bowl winning QB. Is this the type of player that Allen may end up being? Flame away The fact is aside from Tom Brady nobody "Carries the team on their back" and just "wins the superbowl" what you are describing is hero ball and while we all may be under the illusion that it's Peyton Vs Brady or Mahommes vs Allen the fact is that it's the Buffalo Bills vs the Kansas City Chiefs. NO QB's are heroes. They are not batman, superman or anything else. GOOD TEAMS with balance playing disciplined football is what wins championships. (That means running and passing, offense and defense... you know, balance. Like what KC has). Mahommes doesn't have to throw for 400 yards a game and dominate people with air raid offense, they have a running game, they have a defense, they get comfortable wins when mahommes throws for 250. When Allen throws for 250 it feels like we need him to perform just a few more miracles to make sure we win because literally nobody else on this team contributes diddly squat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 4 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: hmm .. .. i like it. A lot like Favre when he started out. Yes. Favre was so raw. Yes. but Favre got crazy accurate over time. Josh is getting there. When you can do what Josh can do physically, you really want to stick with this and see where it goes. He wants to get better so badly. the coaches will straighten him out. My bigger concern is that not many plays called have been very effective the past couple weeks. Looked to me like Josh had nowhere to go with the ball most passing plays. is that on him? don't think so... has the league figured out what Daboll is doing? Josh/Daboll has definately hit a flat spot. Need Feliciano and Spain back. We are missing a TE to go to in clutch situations. Most teams in the NFL use the TE or multiple TE's as big time weapons. We don't have one who can get down the field and hold onto the ball. This team is unbelievably flawed everywhere but QB and WR. And Josh still has his rough games as we saw the past couple weeks. But you have to love his competitiveness and the way he can throw ropes all over the field when he is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: A larger more mobile Brett Favre, especially at the 3 year point of their careers This. Favre is almost the perfect comparison in style, Josh has a huge size advantage. Both very mobile, tough as nails, leaders, a little wild and make plays that very few other can come close to and both COMPLETELY INFURIATING at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 12 hours ago, TheMightyMaxio said: Yes He reminds me of this guy...only with less swagger! oh the good ole days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) The closest comparison I could come up with to a former Buffalo QB besides Jim Kelly (gunslinger attitude) is James Harris, and I really don't know how close they are besides being big bodied, strong armed and athletic. Mostly, I think Josh Allen is unique in Buffalo's team history. Edited October 21, 2020 by TigerJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I can't think of two players more different. 55 minutes ago, DCofNC said: This. Favre is almost the perfect comparison in style, Josh has a huge size advantage. Both very mobile, tough as nails, leaders, a little wild and make plays that very few other can come close to and both COMPLETELY INFURIATING at times. Or Elway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Bledsoe was a statue in the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Allen is a bigger, stronger and more athletic Brett Favre — I do see a bit of Elway in him in the way he runs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Did anyone else see during the KC game, he seems to refuse to check it down to the flat even on early downs. I’ve seen The same with Aaron Rodgers recently and early on Andrew Luck early in his career. I think he needs to start using that occasionally Allen has been using the check down more often than he used to. Not in the Kansas City game, but in other games this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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