RichRiderBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On Allen: not a good game, but not his fault. Damn if he just would have hit one of those early deep balls. We'll be ok. Will be a playoff team, likely win division, but will be a pretender. Need a better D, a lot of the 2020 personal calls on D were bad. We need a reset. I still think we match up ok with Pats. Cam will throw picks. If we lose this Jests game ...oh boy. Flacco always kills us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just like last week we continue to huddle and follow the game plan later into the second half. Our run game stinks so we might as well a abandon it and speed up the tempo when behind. 3 and out is a 3 and out, those extra few seconds in the huddle ain’t doing anything for our D. How many minutes did they have the ball in the second half? Gotta be between 22 and 25 minutes. *****! Seemed like forever. The D can’t get off the field when they are rested so what’s the difference putting them on tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo2218 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, mattynh said: I’ll take it I won’t, that shows nothing of progress going forward from this year. AFC East champs for a year means nothing if the other 3 teams get better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zevo Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The offense was even worse than the defense...the game was still there...***** all around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Holy Mutherfreaking Crap!!! All's yall's are bat sheet crazy with the Jauron crap.....lighten up Francises....McD was God 2 weeks ago....SMDH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TN Bills Fan said: The wheels have fallen off this franchise. Going to take 2 drafts to fix the defense. Ed Oliver and Tremaine Edmunds are a bust, Tre White living on reputation-not in Gilmore's league. Milano can't stay on the field. Cody Ford a bust. This is a 6 win team. We need a sample size greater than losses to the best two teams in the NFL ( Chiefs Titans) Relax... Edited October 20, 2020 by RichRiderBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Let’s be honest. This team is going nowhere past the wild card round again. If they get there Edited October 20, 2020 by CaptnCoke11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, Simon said: The Bills coaching staff is afraid of their own shadows. They need to embrace the strengths and weaknesses of this roster and install schemes and call games accordingly. This is not a grind it out and limit possessions kind of football team. Attacking on both sides of the ball, even recklessly if necessary, plays to this team's strengths and tiptoeing around the field on both offense and defense plays to its weaknesses. They're not going to win a super bowl with this Front 7, but this roster can play with anybody if you give just them the chance to do so. Just unleash the galdanged hounds on both sides of the ball and see who can deal with it. Punter was solid. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said: I believe Juron used the same line. That he did. Hell of a ball coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I agree with it being a poor conservative gameplan likely due to weather. However Andy Reid executed the same gameplan and racked up 466 yards. In the early 90s the great teams could execute the heavy running game gameplan also even though they were a spread pass team. This team just does not have the talent on the Lines to win the ropeadope with a team a good as KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The D can only stop either the pass or run, and so their gameplan is to focus on one. It limited Henry in Tennessee and Mahomes tonight. But those teams used their passing and running games, respectively, to wallop us. unless we are playing a 1-dimensional team, we are going to struggle on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, VW82 said: Let's see. We successfully took the ball out of the hands of the best player in the league daring them to run (and they did, and it sucked). Yeah, and kept the strength of our team off the field most of the night. 5 minutes ago, VW82 said: When our QB came out playing like crap, we adjusted and started using a bunch of runs and read options which got us back in the game. We just got outclassed, that's it. Our front 6 aren't good enough. That's just nonsense all over. 1 minute ago, Beerball said: Punter was solid. He's a mudder! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, TN Bills Fan said: The wheels have fallen off this franchise. Going to take 2 drafts to fix the defense. Ed Oliver and Tremaine Edmunds are a bust, Tre White living on reputation-not in Gilmore's league. Milano can't stay on the field. Cody Ford a bust. This is a 6 win team. Overreact much? Oh and welcome to the board as we don't have many like your type. Can't wait for future posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXI~PsychedelicBillsfan~ Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I’d be surprised if we make the playoffs. The patriots are going to run all over us and the schedule is very difficult. Making the playoffs will not be easy how does a team that only wins 7 or 8 games make the playoffs, man? call it over reacting all you want, but watching this team play the last two games, one should not expect them to reach the post season. real hard game to watch, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 The defense needs to get its act together quick. I figured it would after a few games, but now Im not so sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, Simon said: The Bills coaching staff is afraid of their own shadows. They need to embrace the strengths and weaknesses of this roster and install schemes and call games accordingly. This is not a grind it out and limit possessions kind of football team. Attacking on both sides of the ball, even recklessly if necessary, plays to this team's strengths and tiptoeing around the field on both offense and defense plays to its weaknesses. They're not going to win a super bowl with this Front 7, but this roster can play with anybody if you give just them the chance to do so. Just unleash the galdanged hounds on both sides of the ball and see who can deal with it. People are wondering what "happened" to Josh Allen? What happened was a pussified playcalling effort which saw 27 pass plays called all game. They never let JA get into a rhythm, and it showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Simon said: The Bills coaching staff is afraid of their own shadows. They need to embrace the strengths and weaknesses of this roster and install schemes and call games accordingly. This is not a grind it out and limit possessions kind of football team. Attacking on both sides of the ball, even recklessly if necessary, plays to this team's strengths and tiptoeing around the field on both offense and defense plays to its weaknesses. They're not going to win a super bowl with this Front 7, but this roster can play with anybody if you give just them the chance to do so. Just unleash the galdanged hounds on both sides of the ball and see who can deal with it. We definitely need to blitz of defense as the front four cant rush the passer nor stop the run. Not sure what we can do about our running game ,our Oline is suspect and we Dont have a blocking back. I trust McDermott will find and answer but we just dont have the talent this year , which is sad now that we finally have a passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, XXI~PsychedelicBillsfan~ said: how does a team that only wins 7 or 8 games make the playoffs, man? call it over reacting all you want, but watching this team play the last two games, one should not expect them to reach the post season. real hard game to watch, man. I’m not even sure what you are saying to me. I just said I wouldn’t be surprised if we miss the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Simon said: The Bills coaching staff is afraid of their own shadows. They need to embrace the strengths and weaknesses of this roster and install schemes and call games accordingly. This is not a grind it out and limit possessions kind of football team. Attacking on both sides of the ball, even recklessly if necessary, plays to this team's strengths and tiptoeing around the field on both offense and defense plays to its weaknesses. They're not going to win a super bowl with this Front 7, but this roster can play with anybody if you give just them the chance to do so. Just unleash the galdanged hounds on both sides of the ball and see who can deal with it. I think Josh got beat by Mahomes phycologically. Bringing up the "who can throw the furthest". Mahomes made short high percentage plays. Allen tried to hit homers in very wet conditions. Why try to Chuck it down field. Edited October 20, 2020 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Same here...it took me a long time to become a believer in him because I was such a big skeptic...the last 2 games are causing me to lose the faith that I had built in him... He's definitely taken a step back the past two weeks, but he's improved every year so far. He was definitely fooled by the looks he's seen these past two games, but he's too smart, tough and talented not to figure it out. I still believe in him long-term, but it appears there are still going to be some growing pains throughout this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SCBills said: I’m pretty sure Frazier, in his genius, watched the Raiders gameplan, and decided to do the exact opposite. My favorite was the concept of never using a spy on Mahomes. That worked out wonderful. They used a spy on mahomes on the play He almost threw a pick to norman. The moronic announcer buck said a series later that they never spied him. #97 did it at least a couple times. 7 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: On Allen: not a good game, but not his fault. Damn if he just would have hit one of those early deep balls. We'll be ok. Will be a playoff team, likely win division, but will be a pretender. Need a better D, a lot of the 2020 personal calls on D were bad. We need a reset. I still think we match up ok with Pats. Cam will throw picks. If we lose this Jests game ...oh boy. Flacco always kills us. Missing an easy td on the first possession was his fault. Edited October 20, 2020 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, fasteddie said: Weak zone defense, linebackers with no talent, and don't get me started on Jerry Hughes. 0 sacks through 6 games. He should be inactive the rest of the year. Watching him run around the tackle and fall down over and over again....shades of Aaron Maybin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, bills6969 said: Horrid front 7 and poor running game.... don’t believe it’s fixable this year It’s not we need to rebuild the D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, Simon said: The Bills coaching staff is afraid of their own shadows. They need to embrace the strengths and weaknesses of this roster and install schemes and call games accordingly. This is not a grind it out and limit possessions kind of football team. Attacking on both sides of the ball, even recklessly if necessary, plays to this team's strengths and tiptoeing around the field on both offense and defense plays to its weaknesses. They're not going to win a super bowl with this Front 7, but this roster can play with anybody if you give just them the chance to do so. Just unleash the galdanged hounds on both sides of the ball and see who can deal with it. I would have accepted rushing 5-6 guys in the last drive on two key 3rd downs and yet we watch Frazier coach conservative rushing 4 guys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 If you can find the right mindset, the posts after a loss are the BEST EVER! Beat the Jets (hopefully), and go into the Cheater’s game 5-2 having lost only to the two teams in last year’s AFC Championship game. How HORRIBLE is that? We have time to figure it out and get better. We have plenty of things to fix. I hope we manage to do exactly that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Simon said: Yeah, and kept the strength of our team off the field most of the night. It wasn't our strength tonight. McD kept the game close and we actually had a chance near the end if we'd have just stopped one of those 3rd and longs. Would you have preferred putting our guys on an island again? I liked that we protected our corners vs. Mahomes. It's too bad that we get no rush and can't tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: We are still in the driver's seat for the division. The Pats look pretty horrid. I watched their game yesterday and they are nothing to fear. Not to see they won't kick the snot out of us head-to-head, but they are going to bank a lot of losses this year regardless. Crazy as it sounds, the Dolphins are back in play for the division and look like the best of the bunch at the moment. Frazier/McD are coaching as if we have an elite front four. We don't. We need to bring pressure like the Chiefs did the entire first half. It's got to be frustrating for the defense, since the coaching is doing them no favors. Our front four ***** sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Definitely felt like a Jauron coached game. Jauron woulda made the other team play worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Our front four ***** sucks. Let’s watch Jordan Philips tonight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Augie said: If you can find the right mindset, the posts after a loss are the BEST EVER! Beat the Jets (hopefully), and go into the Cheater’s game 5-2 having lost only to the two teams in last year’s AFC Championship game. How HORRIBLE is that? We have time to figure it out and get better. We have plenty of things to fix. I hope we manage to do exactly that. Not horrible. Just indicates we are on track for 1 & done like last year. People's hopes were higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Tre White got his money and called it a year CB give up 7 yard cushions & Linebackers line up 5 yards away from the line of scrimmage. The DLine is small and soft. The OLine is weak. The Defense of scheme is old and garbage no aggression. 10-6 first round playoff exit again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I kind of wished they blitzed a lot more. The rushing game was destroying them. Use creative blitzes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 We punted well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Let’s be honest. This team is going nowhere past the wild card round again. I say they will They are still a 10 and 6 team.....but we now have the offense to get to at least one game past that How far they will go will really be determined by if they can get the D fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, VW82 said: It wasn't our strength tonight. McD kept the game close and we actually had a chance near the end if we'd have just stopped one of those 3rd and longs. Would you have preferred putting our guys on an island again? I liked that we protected our corners vs. Mahomes. It's too bad that we get no rush and can't tackle. It can never be your strength when they're standing on the sideline all day. Yea, I would rather roll the dice and attack opposing offenses even if it means weakening the integrity of your secondary at times. If they hit some big plays on us, so be it. We have an offense that can get points back in a hurry. But putting pressure on people also leads to mistakes and turnovers and I think it's a better alternative than sitting back and bleeding out while your offense watches from the sidelines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, buffalo2218 said: I won’t, that shows nothing of progress going forward from this year. AFC East champs for a year means nothing if the other 3 teams get better I get the frustration after these two games but this team is ascending. Josh had a rough game but take a deep breath and look at what he has for this year. I think people we’re getting out of control after 4 weeks with “going for the one seed” and whatnot. Winning the division is the first step to the ultimate goal. If it’s in a down year for the pats so be it. The Seahawks won the division with. 7-9 record won a playoff game and the next year won the sb. This team is ascending. the titans and chiefs are 2 of the best in the nfl. We are not there yet? Fine something to work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 We held the Sb champs to under 30 We belong in the postseason conversation Stop whining you ungrateful millenials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: The 3rd Down Defense has been especially soft this year... Just brutal... They DL seems like magnets with the same polarity as the qb. They repel each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chaos said: Not horrible. Just indicates we are on track for 1 & done like last year. People's hopes were higher. Our Bills, and LIFE, are a work in progress. I’m not taking tonight too hard. I’m disappointed, but I’ll survive. Fix what’s broken and do more of what you do best. We lost to the World Champs. Most teams do. Beat the teams we are supposed to beat (that’s almost everyone), and steal some of the close ones. That’s a step in the right direction if we can make it happen. . Edited October 20, 2020 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXI~PsychedelicBillsfan~ Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I’m not even sure what you are saying to me. I just said I wouldn’t be surprised if we miss the playoffs. let me reiterate, man. you said you wouldn't be surprised if they missed the playoffs. I added (in somewhat of an agreement), how does a team that wins only 7 or 8 games (unless it's the seattle seahawks) make the playoffs (I should of added) "anyway". sorry to be confusing there, man. this team can not hang with the big dogs yet. sure they will likely beat the jets, may split with the fins and unless McD can figure out how to beat a crippled pats team, BB still has his number. jets-W patriots-Lx 2 seattle-L cardinals-? chargers-L 49ers-? steelers-L broncos-L fins-L *cards/49ers could go either way? 3 (*maybe 5) more possible wins and 7 likely losses? team is not ready to compete. boo on me. I will gladly serve up a large plate of crow "if" they can prove me wrong, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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