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4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I don't know where this narrative came from, I think Allen forced maybe 2 or 3 passes to Diggs that he shouldn't have. Sometimes QBs force the ball to their #1 WR. That is the last thing that concerns me about the offense tonight. If Allen was not going through his progressions that is a different problem. The all-22 will be helpful.

 

Agreed. I recall Herbert forcing a ball to Mike Williams in double or triple coverage last night and big Mike came down with it I think to set them up for what should have been the game winning field goal. Diggs isn't as big as Williams but he is still great at making contested catches.

 

But it was an odd game plan. Most everything short within 10-15 yards and Beasley sees zero targets in the first half and then goes off in the second half. Very different from what we saw in the first four games. 

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27 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

Diggs had 3 drops by my count

Diggs 16 targets, 10 receptions...106 yards tho :D

2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I thought Beasley played well when the ball was thrown his way. 

Cole caught 6 of 6 targets for 53 yards

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12 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Those two or three passes killed drives and on those two or three passes he had an open receiver, one of them Beasley where he was looking right at him and chose to throw it into triple coverage. That’s on Josh not Daboll. Daboll did his job scheming a receiver open and starting joshs read there. 

 

Okay but 2 or 3 passes does not define his day. He still completed 63% of his passes including a few of his usual wow throws that we're starting to take for granted. I think the Titans did a good job of confusing him and taking away the crossing routes he's excelled on this year. Daboll IMO did not call a good game, which isn't to say it was terrible. Allen also did not play at the standard he set in the first 4 games. Neither did the receivers for that matter. There's equal blame to go all around. No one on offense was terrible but no one really stepped up either, Daboll included.

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Just now, HappyDays said:

 

Okay but 2 or 3 passes does not define his day. He still completed 63% of his passes including a few or his usual wow throws that we're starting to take for granted. I think the Titans did a good job of confusing him and taking away the crossing routes he's excelled on this year. Daboll IMO did not call a good game, which isn't to say it was terrible. Allen also did not play at the standard he set in the first 4 games. Neither did the receivers for that matter. There's equal blame to go all around. No one on offense was terrible but no one really stepped up either, Daboll included.

Where did I say it defined his day? You were blaming daboll for not getting Beasley involved in the first half. I pointed out a couple plays where Beasley was open, Josh looked at him and forced it to Diggs. 

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1 minute ago, reddogblitz said:

Still not sure why this guy doesn't get more playing time.

 

I've been saying this since last year. Yeldon was 100x better than Gore and is about twice as good as Moss. Tonight he was arguably better than Singletary. Supposedly he has some horrible fumbling problem but I've never seen it pop up before. I think we could at least utilize him in the quick passing game more.

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8 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Where did I say it defined his day? You were blaming daboll for not getting Beasley involved in the first half. I pointed out a couple plays where Beasley was open, Josh looked at him and forced it to Diggs. 

 

So you're saying in the 2nd half out of nowhere Allen was seeing Beasley open? Looked to me like Daboll realized he was matched up against a rookie slot corner and modified his game plan too late to matter. The announcers were pointing it out all through the 1st half. Again I'm not saying Allen is blameless or that he didn't miss some open receivers but I don't think we attacked the Titans where we should have.

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7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

So you're saying in the 2nd half out of nowhere Allen was seeing Beasley open? Looked to me like Daboll realized he was matched up against a rookie slot corner and modified his game plan too late to matter. The announcers were pointing it all through the 1st half. Again I'm not saying Allen is blameless or that he didn't miss some open receivers but I don't think we attacked the Titans where we should have.

I’m saying Allen is to blame for not throwing it to Beasley when he’s open. One play he looked at him for a while and didn’t throw it. Do you think daboll tells Allen he has to throw it to Diggs even if he’s triple covered and just ignore the wide open receiver? No, you go through your reads and find the open man. 
 

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1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

I’m saying Allen is to blame for not throwing it to Beasley when he’s open. Do you think daboll tells Allen he has to throw it to Diggs even if he’s triple covered and just ignore the wide open receiver? No you go through your reads and find the open man. 
 

So forcing it to a triple covered Diggs instead of a wide open Beasley is attacking them where we should have? Thank god you have nothing to do with this team. 

 

You're talking about a single play. I'm talking about the overall game plan. When the offense comes out after halftime and suddenly Beasley is getting fed, that's an adjustment that Daboll made. I don't even know what the 1st half game plan was. The way it played out, it was get 3 yards on 1st and 2nd down and then hope nothing goes wrong on 3rd down. We should have been taking advantage of their rookie slot corner early and often and used that to open up routes downfield. I'll credit Daboll for adjusting in the 2nd half, it's not his fault the defense was awful and Allen threw a bad interception.

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Beasley.

Then again, Beasley is always under utilized unfortunately. He could justifiably be a larger portion of our offensive gameplan every game, but it seems like either McDermott, Daboll or Allen forget about how versatile & reliable he is week in & week out.

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3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

You're talking about a single play. I'm talking about the overall game plan. When the offense comes out after halftime and suddenly Beasley is getting fed, that's an adjustment that Daboll made. I don't even know what the 1st half game plan was. The way it played out, it was get 3 yards on 1st and 2nd down and then hope nothing goes wrong on 3rd down. We should have been taking advantage of their rookie slot corner early and often and used that to open up routes downfield. I'll credit Daboll for adjusting in the 2nd half, it's not his fault the defense was awful and Allen threw a bad interception.

I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall

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1 hour ago, Success said:

The punter.  That punt COULD have turned the game.

 


I’ve been as much of a critic as anyone of Bojorquez but he hit 2 bombs from their own end. Unfortunately the first one out kicked the coverage.  64 yard average!  Wow!

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There were a couple individual bright spots but part of that is because everyone else was so bad.  The Bills looked completely unprepared in all 3 phases of the game last night.  If you didn't know it you would think they were the team that didn't have more than a couple team practice sessions over the past two weeks.  I put this one on the coaches and the disruption caused by all the uncertainty surrounding when the game will be played.     

 

 

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Pass protection generally gave Allen time.

Beasley did what he does.

Yeldon hit the holes hard.

Epenesa had a solid pressure on the one play I saw him on the field... and then jumped Offside and was benched.  McD’s reaction leads me to believe there were issues leading up to the game with AJ.

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I didn't read the whole thread, but saw many people mentioning Beasley. He was great as a receiver, but he failed to tackle Butler big time after Allen's INT. He was the one who should've stopped him at Ten 40, and I can't say he didn't try, but he failed. I am not saying it would change anything, but it was still 11 point game at that time and there is a difference if they need 60 yards for TD or 10.

 

Btw if you want to feel the pain go and rewatch it. Not the INT, but Butlers return. I am no expert, but at least Davis, Williams and Roberts could've done much more. When Beasley slowed him for the first time, there should be pile of bodies all over Butler, but they were just looking and hesitating.

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3 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

I didn't read the whole thread, but saw many people mentioning Beasley. He was great as a receiver, but he failed to tackle Butler big time after Allen's INT. He was the one who should've stopped him at Ten 40, and I can't say he didn't try, but he failed. I am not saying it would change anything, but it was still 11 point game at that time and there is a difference if they need 60 yards for TD or 10.

 

Btw if you want to feel the pain go and rewatch it. Not the INT, but Butlers return. I am no expert, but at least Davis, Williams and Roberts could've done much more. When Beasley slowed him for the first time, there should be pile of bodies all over Butler, but they were just looking and hesitating.

 

 

I agree 100%. The return looked like a team (the Bills) that had given up, one players that really looked like he tried to pursue him was the one and only Josh Allen.  I also think Ford was there at the end.

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Beasley is all I had. And I was paying especially close to the defense to try to see just one guy I liked. That guy was typically LoRax last year no matter how bad everyone around him may have been. No one seemed to step up.

 

Beasley, and the other knock I had on Allen was his throws made Beasley's catches that more acrobatic and impressive. Beasley can catch them but JA needs to make it a bit easier on these guys. And he usually has this season

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32 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

 

 

I agree 100%. The return looked like a team (the Bills) that had given up, one players that really looked like he tried to pursue him was the one and only Josh Allen.  I also think Ford was there at the end.

 

I think the players thought he might have been down...it looked like to me his knee hit the ground, I wanted to see a replay...

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Beasley is really just about it. Yeldon did ok, as did the kickers.

 

Diggs had too many drops, but tbh, is measured by a far higher standard than the rest of the mere mortals.

 

Davis did have at least one drop, but that was one that had a fair bit of heat on it.

 

An observation about how McDermott handles young players. He seems to me to really come down hard on stuff that he expects them not to do. Epenesa got pulled immediately he made the false start. Singletary, I'm pretty sure, saw the naughty seat in this game for whiffing on a block that got Josh sacked.

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