PUNT750 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) Keep the Practice Squads as they are in 2020. Great flexibility for all teams. Teams will have 2 scrimmage games against NFL opponents. Play an 18 game schedule with NO Bye's. Quite charging season ticket holders for nonsense Pre-Season Games. Edited September 11, 2020 by PUNT750 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Let's wait for teams with some significant changes to play like the Jets and Dolphins. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 No, preseason games are definitely not necessary. It's been that way for a long time now. Has nothing to do with the game tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 From the game I watched I'd say absolutely. It seemed quite slow and sloppy all the way through. However, I don't think they need 4 games. 3 at max. 2 to get the starters ready and one to evaluate depth players. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 You had the defending champs playing. It's not a surprise they look good. Would a preseason schedule make the Texans defensive coordinator realize that the Chiefs ran the ball on first down every time? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Necessary is the wrong question. Are four too many? Yes. For multiple reasons. 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Augie said: Necessary is the wrong question. Are four too many? Yes. For multiple reasons. I agree. I think 2 would be enough. Preseason games are very important for the bottom-third of a teams roster, guys fighting for backup and special teams roles, and for drafted rookies to get their feet wet. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Preseason games most definitely serve multiple purposes. They give the coaches an opportunity to dial in their schemes in real time. They give the coaches the opportunity to fully evaluate their rookies in a real game. They give the coaches an opportunity to evaluate free agency acquisitions for scheme fit. They give the coaches the opportunity to test various formations. They give rookies, and new players the opportunity to prove themselves to the coaches, or to showcase their development to other teams who will be looking towards final cuts. AJ Epenesa will almost certainly get less game time early in the season because he did not have the opportunity to play in a preseason game. Singletary was featured heavily in preseason last year, for good reason. I honestly feel bad for rookies, and especially UDFAs this season, and I am not alone. Several Bills players have said the same. If you don't like preseason games, don't watch them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Special K said: I agree. I think 2 would be enough. Preseason games are very important for the bottom-third of a teams roster, guys fighting for backup and special teams roles, and for drafted rookies to get their feet wet. All of that can be determined very easily by staffs without the need for the actual games. They'd be stupid to make decisions based on a tiny sample of plays of a single player in a game anyway; what is much more revealing is his day in/day out performance all camp long. These teams know who they are keep and axing anyway, for the most part. I'm sure there are a few tough decisions made each year by each team, but you don't need pre-season games. Pre-season games exist to make money for the league. At one point in time, a long time ago, they existed to make out of shape players get in shape because they had alternate jobs in the off-season. Those days are long gone; these guys are in terrific shape year round, and I hear they make pretty good money nowadays too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: All of that can be determined very easily by staffs without the need for the actual games. They'd be stupid to make decisions based on a tiny sample of plays of a single player in a game anyway; what is much more revealing is his day in/day out performance all camp long. These teams know who they are keep and axing anyway, for the most part. I'm sure there are a few tough decisions made each year by each team, but you don't need pre-season games. Pre-season games exist to make money for the league. At one point in time, a long time ago, they existed to make out of shape players get in shape because they had alternate jobs in the off-season. Those days are long gone; these guys are in terrific shape year round, and I hear they make pretty good money nowadays too. Right. Same as MLB spring training, but with one big difference: spring training is an important marketing tool, bringing hundreds of thousands of snowbelt fans down to Florida and Arizona to take in games. NFL preseason is the opposite: an annoyance that they force season ticket holders to purchase to watch a glorified practice (with the exception perhaps of the first half of Game 3) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penfield45 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 if the NFL took a winter break like most sports leagues around the world they could easily have a 20 game season. remove pre season entirely and add 4 regular season games. take the winter break around Christmas and return for January-Feb. Superbowl in April 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNT750 Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 22 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: All of that can be determined very easily by staffs without the need for the actual games. They'd be stupid to make decisions based on a tiny sample of plays of a single player in a game anyway; what is much more revealing is his day in/day out performance all camp long. These teams know who they are keep and axing anyway, for the most part. I'm sure there are a few tough decisions made each year by each team, but you don't need pre-season games. Pre-season games exist to make money for the league. At one point in time, a long time ago, they existed to make out of shape players get in shape because they had alternate jobs in the off-season. Those days are long gone; these guys are in terrific shape year round, and I hear they make pretty good money nowadays too. Great Reply! How many Bills look great in a pre-season game and then get cut? 12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Right. Same as MLB spring training, but with one big difference: spring training is an important marketing tool, bringing hundreds of thousands of snowbelt fans down to Florida and Arizona to take in games. NFL preseason is the opposite: an annoyance that they force season ticket holders to purchase to watch a glorified practice (with the exception perhaps of the first half of Game 3) Thank you for sharing my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: From the game I watched I'd say absolutely. It seemed quite slow and sloppy all the way through. However, I don't think they need 4 games. 3 at max. 2 to get the starters ready and one to evaluate depth players. I agree. Texans looked slow and not ready to go, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: I agree. Texans looked slow and not ready to go, wish they would have looked like that... oh... about 8 months and a few days ago!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I think they need a game or two just to get some live game experience and to get a better look at some bubble guys in real game action. Four games is too many. I'm sure Josh and Diggs wouldn't mind a half of real football to work on timing and things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, RiotAct said: wish they would have looked like that... oh... about 8 months and a few days ago!!! my thought, exactly. They were mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: my thought, exactly. They were mediocre. Cook isn't Hopkins and David Johnson is not the same DJ of 2016. You need that true #1. You'll see how much better we look on offense with Diggs in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: From the game I watched I'd say absolutely. It seemed quite slow and sloppy all the way through. However, I don't think they need 4 games. 3 at max. 2 to get the starters ready and one to evaluate depth players. I think people forget how unrepresentative Week 1 games can be even in an ordinary season (one in which preseason games are played). The Pats looked unstoppable early last year thanks to continuity and coaching. It was kind of an illusion in retrospect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsToast Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Necessary no Helpful yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, Penfield45 said: if the NFL took a winter break like most sports leagues around the world they could easily have a 20 game season. remove pre season entirely and add 4 regular season games. take the winter break around Christmas and return for January-Feb. Superbowl in April Talk about a plan to kill players and make them all brain dead. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 It’s probably not necessary but it’s beneficial for fringe roster guys to get reps during a game. The players who have roster spots locked up may not care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterian Bills Fan Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Yeah they are but not four. I think it's clear that in the near future the preseason will be shortened, the regular season lengthened and the number of Playoffs berths will increase by one all in the same offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I think there should be at least 1. 2 at the Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Not if there is an "extended Camp to properly evaluate players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Penfield45 said: if the NFL took a winter break like most sports leagues around the world they could easily have a 20 game season. remove pre season entirely and add 4 regular season games. take the winter break around Christmas and return for January-Feb. Superbowl in April Yeah, that’s a wonderful idea. 😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Penfield45 said: if the NFL took a winter break like most sports leagues around the world they could easily have a 20 game season. remove pre season entirely and add 4 regular season games. take the winter break around Christmas and return for January-Feb. Superbowl in April uh no. Eliminate 4 PS games. Add 2 regular games and follow the normal PS schedule as is. jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 The NFL had a lot of change forced on them this year, and some of it might stick. I like the expanded PS with protected players and liberal call ups. Preseason is definitely cut back going forward. (They won't eliminate it because it's extra $$$.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 No, people are going to talk about that game being ugly, but week one has been ugly for years, even with the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Feels like the Chiefs and Texans might have different perspectives on this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I may be the only one but I enjoy preseason football, particularly the aspect of no names doing whatever they can to make a roster. It was a great warmup to real football. I also liked the Pro Bowl a week after the Super Bowl as a weaning mechanism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 For Fans: NO For a Guy trying to make a team: YES 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Special K said: I agree. I think 2 would be enough. Preseason games are very important for the bottom-third of a teams roster, guys fighting for backup and special teams roles, and for drafted rookies to get their feet wet. The owners want 2 preseason and 18 regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 hours ago, BillsRdue said: Cook isn't Hopkins and David Johnson is not the same DJ of 2016. You need that true #1. You'll see how much better we look on offense with Diggs in there. Made me really question taking Watson in FF this year. They needed a big play receiver there and they had a bunch of Jags and an RB that looked old except for one run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Special K said: I agree. I think 2 would be enough. Preseason games are very important for the bottom-third of a teams roster, guys fighting for backup and special teams roles, and for drafted rookies to get their feet wet. I agree with this. There was a reason both teams ran the ball so much early last night. They needed to get settled and both were a little sloppy especially early. We were looking at the SB champ against another playoff team too. Two preseason games would’ve made a difference. Teams with new coaches/schemes and/or a lot of player turnover will not look that good. The league doesn’t want a rookie OT getting a QB knocked out for a season because he couldn’t be worked in more slowly in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 It’s a straw man argument to say the teams need preseason games to select a roster. No they don’t! If they don’t play those games it doesn’t mean there will be less players in the league. The teams will simply make their decisions using other metrics. So? The same number of guys get cut. Just because some player happens to make a play in a glorified practice game is no guarantee he’s a better player day in and day out...and in fact every single year we see a Bills player perform as the preseason standout only to watch him get cut and never be heard from again. The preseason games prove nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Absolutely no need for NFL preseason games. No need to risk injury for meaningless games. As for fringe players, who cares about them. Preseason just makes them look better than they actually are. Preseason made Nate Peterman look like a capable QB and a rugby player like a capable RB. If a fringe player is good enough to make it they will show it in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It’s a straw man argument to say the teams need preseason games to select a roster. No they don’t! If they don’t play those games it doesn’t mean there will be less players in the league. The teams will simply make their decisions using other metrics. So? The same number of guys get cut. Just because some player happens to make a play in a glorified practice game is no guarantee he’s a better player day in and day out...and in fact every single year we see a Bills player perform as the preseason standout only to watch him get cut and never be heard from again. The preseason games prove nothing. They might never admit it, but I think what coaches see in practice is more valued than preseason game performance. There are so many factors that determine who makes a roster, and I’m not convinced that preseason games are a big one. What does a guys performance against a bunch of third stingers who will get cut in a week say ? You’re absolutely correct, every year we have these preseason heroes who don’t make the cut, while guys who did nothing make the team. I think college film and practice tells you more than what a player does in the disaster of a game called preseason football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziltoid Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 I'd say 1, and it can be a scrimmage type set up. No need to have throwaway plays in exhibition, and you end up with a bunch in a true game format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 This is to small a sample size to make a conclusion. Let's wait to after Monday to evaluate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Did you see the texans play last night? Ill bet they wished they had a preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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