thunderingsquid Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Before training camp started it was a foregone conclusion that our running game would be 60/40 in favor of Singletary and Moss would just plug into Gore's former role. Now that TC is sunsetting and Singletary had his bad days holding on to the football, do you all see Moss maybe getting more of a share? I also heard that we may be passing even more and the RBs touches may go down even more. How is Moss doing in TC? I haven't heard much at all. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I’ve said 70/30 Singletary and I’m holding to that. It sounds like moss has had a strong camp but I’m of the belief that Motor is special. He’s dangerous in the hole. I might be wrong but I’m rolling with that. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I don't think anyone knows how this is going to play out. The fantasy "experts" out there have been dropping Singletary in their rankings due to the unknown. For all we know Moss could be the superior player. But we have at least seen Singletary play at a high level in this league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Why was it a foregone conclusion? McD's mantra is he plays the best players. As long as Moss knows the plays and can pass protect, I suspect McD and Daboll will go with the hot hand. As for passing more, I would buy that. In general the left side of the line and Morse are much better pass blockers than road graders. Nobody knows how the right side will play out. Knox and Kroft are barely capable blockers but can be very good in the pass game. I think a few of the designed runs Allen got last year will go to the backs and Daboll will dial up a few more deep shots a game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 By the middle of the season, Moss will have more touches than Singletary. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’ve said 70/30 Singletary and I’m holding to that. It sounds like moss has had a strong camp but I’m of the belief that Motor is special. He’s dangerous in the hole. I might be wrong but I’m rolling with that. I agree completely and believe that was exhibited last year by Singletary rather effectively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 If Singletary can hold onto the ball he easily deserves the ball more because he has proven how damn good he is with it. Now, if he continues fumbling it then it's up to Moss to run away with it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I think it is a fluid situation. Both are going to get touches because the NFL is too much wear and tear on a running back to expect him to carry 30 times a game. If one of them gets hot, he gets more carries. If Singletary puts too many balls on the carpet Daboll may give more carries to Moss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Funny thread. Singletary proved last season that he can be a top level producer in both the running and passing game. Moss hasn’t played a down of NFL football. Yes, I know there are fumble issues but until that recurs I agree with a 70/30 split projection. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Singletary will have more touches and yards but Moss will have more TD’s. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 69/31 S/M 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Moss won't have enough experience to start. Rooks rarely play on yhi re d down until later in the season Singletary will be primary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Singletary will have more touches and yards but Moss will have more TD’s. Yup. Moss is a power runner and will fit in well in 1st and goal (and beyond) situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, Maynard said: By the middle of the season, Moss will have more touches than Singletary. What is your reasoning? We have good knowledge of how Singletary performs in the NFl. His statistics, and what we see with our own eyes, indicate that he is an excellent player, and can soon become one of the best at his position. He had almost 1,000 yards rushing and receiving last year as he shared playing time (too often) with Gore. 5.1 yards per carry; super quick and elusive in the hole, surprising power, and a good receiver. With each component of the offense seemingly improved this off season--wide receivers, running backs, offensive line, and quarterback--if Singletary plays merely as well as last year (but he'll be better--it is only his second year...) he could have Pro Bowl caliber stats. But, they hopefully hit with Moss too--this would be a rocking team for the next few years if Moss plays in the NFL, like he played in college. And this coaching staff is excellent at bringing out the best in their players. Why do you think Moss will get more playing time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Yup. Moss is a power runner and will fit in well in 1st and goal (and beyond) situations. Agreed. He will punch those ones in that Gore struggled with the second half of the season. Plus Moss can catch, he will be a handful inside the 10. Edited August 31, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB48 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Maynard said: By the middle of the season, Moss will have more touches than Singletary. If he stays healthy I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’ve said 70/30 Singletary and I’m holding to that. It sounds like moss has had a strong camp but I’m of the belief that Motor is special. He’s dangerous in the hole. I might be wrong but I’m rolling with that. As was Travis Henry. I apologize, sometimes I find it hard to restrain myself. I think we have a great combo. We have the elusive guy, and the pounding back. Neither are distance guys, but they are rare. I’m happy with 20 yard chunks when we can get them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Come seasons end I’d be surprised if Singletary has more touches than Moss. 50/50ish with moss having more carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 75% Singletary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 60/40 Singletary. Unless Moss is a better pass catcher than projected I think they use Moss on 1st and 3rd and short situations. Whereas Singletary will take 2nd and 3rd down and particular passing situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’ve said 70/30 Singletary and I’m holding to that. It sounds like moss has had a strong camp but I’m of the belief that Motor is special. He’s dangerous in the hole. I might be wrong but I’m rolling with that. SIngletary is a star in the making. He just needs to hold on to the football. Moss will be the hammering back that will come in when we need to kill the clock or get some tough first downs, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 63.2974682% to Motor, and the rest to Moss. By mid season, 54.849237% to Singletary. ??️♂️?. Ok, all kidding aside, Moss’s carries will grow after he gains the trust of the coaches. They won’t trust him to go halfway in the beginning if the season as they didn’t give the ball to Singletary in the beginning of last year. Surprisingly, they both can catch, and although neither has straight away top speed, they both have demonstrated explosiveness, and for his size, Moss can make guys miss. He’s not just a straight ahead power back. Regardless of the % as how do you actually make that prediction, they both will be fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: 63.2974682% to Motor, and the rest to Moss. By mid season, 54.849237% to Singletary. ??️♂️?. Ok, all kidding aside, Moss’s carries will grow after he gains the trust of the coaches. They won’t trust him to go halfway in the beginning if the season as they didn’t give the ball to Singletary in the beginning of last year. Surprisingly, they both can catch, and although neither has straight away top speed, they both have demonstrated explosiveness, and for his size, Moss can make guys miss. He’s not just a straight ahead power back. Regardless of the % as how do you actually make that prediction, they both will be fun to watch. I think both of these guys can easily break away for TDs in the 30-40 yard range. They’re just not going to hit the 75-yard home runs. They are remarkably similar in style, I think, but Moss brings that extra bit of nastiness in that he likes to hit people. I can easily envision a scenario pretty early this season in which there is absolutely no drop off when one replaces the other. If I’m Daboll I don’t want to be too predictable that when Moss comes in it’s a short yardage play, for example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 FF to 2:58. #7 ... Pete has the answer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 McDermott is fired up about Devon ball security ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: McDermott is fired up about Devon ball security ? That's funny, but it's obvious that McD has some concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I think if Singletary didn’t have the fumbling issue that Gore would’ve seen even fewer carries. I see Moss being the better pick for FFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 7:11 PM, 716er said: 69/31 S/M Sounds..... kinky (sorry.not.sorry) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 This thread just indicates the back field is in great shape. Whoever carries more will likely deserve it. No one is veteran status here. And of course, injuries happen and two good backs, that's better than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 8:11 PM, atlbillsfan1975 said: Singletary will have more touches and yards but Moss will have more TD’s. Motor knows how to sniff the end zone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Personally I think 60/40 is pretty realistic. We don't know yet how good Moss ends up. But I have a hunch we're going to have a nice young 1-2 punch for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 (edited) 50/50 seems safe. Moss more on short yards, singletary more on passing downs. Edited September 1, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 60/40 Singletary/Moss Singletary is just too darn special. I do think Moss will be a good back but I think Singletary is excellent. His size worries me though.. may have to be used tactfully... give some of them carries to Moss so he can wear down the defenses.. I think Singletary could get 800 yards a year at or around 4.5-5.0 ypc, no problem...Moss will be the hammer.. he’ll get the dirty work so he may have a lower ypc and overall productivity...but he’ll be the back that we wanted frank Gore to be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Motor knows how to sniff the end zone I like Singletary a ton. He just doesn’t have elite speed. Bills showed last year they liked bringing a big power back in close to the end zone. This also could be the product of Singletary fumbling a few times. Sean doesn’t like fumbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 30 touches total.... if you go hot hand 20/10 obviously there’s 50/50 at 15 and 15 each... 18/12, 16/14 ..... I expect it to be around 20/10 early on, Singletary. But then start getting closer to 16/14 if all things are equal keeping them fresh and keeping the defense guessing cause I feel both these guys are 3 down backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: I like Singletary a ton. He just doesn’t have elite speed. Bills showed last year they liked bringing a big power back in close to the end zone. This also could be the product of Singletary fumbling a few times. Sean doesn’t like fumbles. No top end thats for sure, but a damn good back. Lets have a 1 , 2 punch- not a bad problem. He didnt have fumbleitist last yesr lets hope he tucks the rock and its just a few rusty practice hiccups Edited September 2, 2020 by billsfan_34 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggerdaddynj Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) Question: do we have a RB who we can run the ball and also be trusted to pick up a blitzer when a game winning drive is on the line? JA will not reach full potential until he can play in the pocket, more safely which will also cut back on those hits he takes down the field tucking the ball and running instead of moving the ball via air to Stefon and our hopefully developing TE corps. Haven’t been around in a long time so I apologize if this has already been discussed and/or debated to death but I’m a bit nervous about whether our two young RBs have the savvy and know how to handle blocking which we all know is an essential component of a RB’s game. Edited September 2, 2020 by biggerdaddynj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:40 PM, SWATeam said: That's funny, but it's obvious that McD has some concerns. Definitely instilling ball control with the young lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 8:07 PM, eball said: Funny thread. Singletary proved last season that he can be a top level producer in both the running and passing game. Moss hasn’t played a down of NFL football. Yes, I know there are fumble issues but until that recurs I agree with a 70/30 split projection. Totally logical. With no PS games, we got squat to go on. Cmon man, nobody on this planet knows, but opinions are free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 I think Singeltary gets more touches. I can see Moss getting more carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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