Checking in on Jets: O-Line and WRs STRUGGLING

[Rigotz]

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-defense-dominates-jets-camp-20200820-2mg5wba7nnhfpbvmdprnuturhy-story.html

 

3 weeks until we play them week 1. Should be a fun game for our defense.

Josh and the Offense will need to step up to beat a tough Jets Defense. If they can do that, we will likely start off 1-0.

[ColoradoBills]

3...............2.................1..................

 

 

 

 

seriously though, they have struggled.

[nucci]

4 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-defense-dominates-jets-camp-20200820-2mg5wba7nnhfpbvmdprnuturhy-story.html

 

3 weeks until we play them week 1. Should be a fun game for our defense.

Josh and the Offense will need to step up to beat a tough Jets Defense. If they can do that, we will likely start off 1-0.

step up.....you mean play better than the jets? Sorry but just tired of cliches

[Rigotz]

8 minutes ago, nucci said:

step up.....you mean play better than the jets? Sorry but just tired of cliches

 

My man ... if you're complaining on a message board that someone wrote "step up" ... I think it's time to go outside.

[teef]

i already like where this thread is going.

[1ManRaid]

Isn't it normal for the defense to do better in the preseason/training camp?  There's threads every year about every team's offense being in trouble because it takes them longer to get up to speed than the defense.

[RobbRiddicksTDLeap]

4 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

Isn't it normal for the defense to do better in the preseason/training camp?  There's threads every year about every team's offense being in trouble because it takes them longer to get up to speed than the defense.

True. But this is also the Jets. A garbage team, full of garbage players and coaches. Hearing anything regarding their suffering, should bring joy and elation.

[nucci]

12 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

My man ... if you're complaining on a message board that someone wrote "step up" ... I think it's time to go outside.

I'm good. thanks

[saundena]

7 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

True. But this is also the Jets. A garbage team, full of garbage players and coaches. Hearing anything regarding their suffering, should bring joy and elation.

 

I wouldn't say the Jets are a garbage team.  They played us tough week 1 of last year and Sam Darnold finished out the Season 5-2.  If we come out flat with little urgency, go dormant for a half or simply play sloppy with the football we can lose this game.

 

I most certainly believe we are a better team, but as a division opponent they will play us tough... and with a chip on their shoulders since our Bills have been the media darlings of 2020 in the AFCE.

[Greg S]

The Bills are the better team and should win. If this were a normal year I would definitely say they will be 1-0. Since their was no real off-season, no preseason games, I would imagine picking winners for every game early in the year will be challenging. I expect the games to look sloppy like preseason games do. It wouldn't shock me if bad teams upset good teams especially in Sept when everyone is trying to get back into the habit of playing football.

[Beast]

Where's Ice Bo....er, Jets Fan when you need him?

[RiotAct]

Cakewalk. 

[Buffalo Boy]

Josh Allen 352 yards and 4 passing TDs , Diggs, Brown, Beasely and Knox

Three Rushing TDs JA, Motor and Moss

Final score 51 to 7.

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Josh Allen 352 yards and 4 passing TDs , Diggs, Brown, Beasely and Knox

Three Rushing TDs JA, Motor and Moss

Final score 51 to 7.

 

Typical negative fan base. Somethings never change.  Of course someone would think we would give up a TD to the Jets. Absurd. 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, saundena said:

 

I wouldn't say the Jets are a garbage team.  They played us tough week 1 of last year and Sam Darnold finished out the Season 5-2.  If we come out flat with little urgency, go dormant for a half or simply play sloppy with the football we can lose this game.

 

I most certainly believe we are a better team, but as a division opponent they will play us tough... and with a chip on their shoulders since our Bills have been the media darlings of 2020 in the AFCE.

They’ve also lost their 2 best players since then. This Jets team absolutely stinks. This is about a 4 win team. They have no weapons and a still developing (or questionable) OL. They lost Adams and Mosley as well. That is an awful football team. It is the type of team, that a good, well-prepared, team should beat by 3 scores. Fortunately, that’s what I expect to happen. If the Bills do not sweep the Jets this year it will be a massive failure. There is not one position group where the Jets are better.

Edited August 24, 2020 by Kirby Jackson

[H2o]

I hope Darnold is wearing his spleen protector. 

[billsfan89]

I actually liked what the Jets did for their Oline in the off season. It reminded me of what McBean did in 2019. They signed a high priced center to fill a big need, drafted a tackle up high, and then signed mostly mid level or lower contracts to round out the rest of the Oline and have some depth. 

 

But it seems to not be translating. I also think releasing Winters a decent player was a self inflicted wound.

52 minutes ago, saundena said:

 

I wouldn't say the Jets are a garbage team.  They played us tough week 1 of last year and Sam Darnold finished out the Season 5-2.  If we come out flat with little urgency, go dormant for a half or simply play sloppy with the football we can lose this game.

 

I most certainly believe we are a better team, but as a division opponent they will play us tough... and with a chip on their shoulders since our Bills have been the media darlings of 2020 in the AFCE.

 

If you play sloppy or without urgency in any game against any opponent you can easily lose in the NFL.

[Warcodered]

Just now, billsfan89 said:

I actually liked what the Jets did for their Oline in the off season. It reminded me of what McBean did in 2019. They signed a high priced center to fill a big need, drafted a tackle up high, and then signed mostly mid level or lower contracts to round out the rest of the Oline and have some depth. 

 

But it seems to not be translating. I also think releasing Winters a decent player was a self inflicted wound.

I didn't really like the guys they brought in as much but maybe that's my bias. Two huge things that might be holding them back is this weird offseason and when we did this we brought in our new OL coach who really seems to have it together.

[Stank_Nasty]

Had sirius XM nfl radio on the other day in my office. Brady Quinn was on and got asked the question of which units would suffer the most from not having a regular offseason. Without hesitation he stated it would be offensive line.... The jets and their 4 or 5 new starters immediately came to mind. Our D should be licking their chops for that matchup.

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

I actually liked what the Jets did for their Oline in the off season. It reminded me of what McBean did in 2019. They signed a high priced center to fill a big need, drafted a tackle up high, and then signed mostly mid level or lower contracts to round out the rest of the Oline and have some depth. 

 

But it seems to not be translating. I also think releasing Winters a decent player was a self inflicted wound.

 

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And in any other season it may very well have panned out..... but then we had a pandemic and no offseason programs.

Edited August 24, 2020 by Stank_Nasty

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Rigotz said:

 

My man ... if you're complaining on a message board that someone wrote "step up" ... I think it's time to go outside.

If he doesn't like 'step up', maybe he should 'step off'.  ?  This has the makings of a 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' episode.

[Greg S]

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

They’ve also lost their 2 best players since then. This Jets team absolutely stinks. This is about a 4 win team. They have no weapons and a still developing (or questionable) OL. They lost Adams and Mosley as well. That is an awful football team. It is the type of team, that a good, well-prepared, team should beat by 3 scores. Fortunately, that’s what I expect to happen. If the Bills do not seeep the Jets this year it will be a massive failure. There is not one position group where the Jets are better.

 

But Jets fans say Darnold is the greatest QB ever. He is already in the HOF and has a gold jacket in their eyes.

[Just Joshin']

1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said:

Had sirius XM nfl radio on the other day in my office. Brady Quinn was on and got asked the question of which units would suffer the most from not having a regular offseason. Without hesitation he stated it would be offensive line.... The jets and their 4 or 5 new starters immediately came to mind. Our D should be licking their chops for that matchup.

Agree.  Many stunts are on the menu.........requires practice and communication which they will not have in game 1.

[eball]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

They’ve also lost their 2 best players since then. This Jets team absolutely stinks. This is about a 4 win team. They have no weapons and a still developing (or questionable) OL. They lost Adams and Mosley as well. That is an awful football team. It is the type of team, that a good, well-prepared, team should beat by 3 scores. Fortunately, that’s what I expect to happen. If the Bills do not seeep the Jets this year it will be a massive failure. There is not one position group where the Jets are better.

 

I read Albert Breer's MMQB this morning and you'd think the Jets are going to shock the world.  Too funny.  I'm with you on this -- even if Darnold going to "QB school" with Josh this summer results in him "closing his shoulder when throwing to the right" they are still pretty bad on offense.  Oh, and isn't it interesting that Darnold apparently has/had mechanical issues?  I thought only Josh Allen was a reclamation project.  The Jets' D front is solid, but they lost their best LB and their best DB.  The OL needed a real offseason to put it together.  Bills by 10+.

[billsfan89]

4 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I didn't really like the guys they brought in as much but maybe that's my bias. Two huge things that might be holding them back is this weird offseason and when we did this we brought in our new OL coach who really seems to have it together.

 

The center they brought in from Denver and Becton in the draft were solid additions. I am not a huge fan of Fant but he is at least better than what they had and Van Rotten and the rest were solid depth additions.

 

I do agree that maybe the offseason was just too much to do a complete overhaul. But I do think they had a better approach to be less top heavy with their additions and go for more depth.

[Kirby Jackson]

5 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

But Jets fans say Darnold is the greatest QB ever. He is already in the HOF and has a gold jacket in their eyes.

I actually think Darnold is pretty good. He just has his hands tied with that trash team/coaching staff. This may be his last year there but I think that his career will resurrect in his next stop a la Tannehill.

[TBBills]

The Jets are a non worry for me. As long as Gase is running the show, it's a win.

[Buffalo Boy]

29 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

Typical negative fan base. Somethings never change.  Of course someone would think we would give up a TD to the Jets. Absurd. 

I didn’t want to seem unrealistic in my prediction?

[H2o]

What Darnold will see every time he drops back Week 1.

[Captain Hindsight]

35 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

But Jets fans say Darnold is the greatest QB ever. He is already in the HOF and has a gold jacket in their eyes.

His footwork is so bad he'd trip on his way up the stage 

[syhuang]

but.....but.....but......

 

 

(someone seems to forget Allen plays in AFCE)

[Protocal69]

3 hours ago, saundena said:

 

I wouldn't say the Jets are a garbage team.  They played us tough week 1 of last year and Sam Darnold finished out the Season 5-2.  If we come out flat with little urgency, go dormant for a half or simply play sloppy with the football we can lose this game.

 

I most certainly believe we are a better team, but as a division opponent they will play us tough... and with a chip on their shoulders since our Bills have been the media darlings of 2020 in the AFCE.

Same Jets that lost to the winless Dolphins ( should have been twice) and the winless Bengals ( where they scored 3 pts) with Darnold.

[RobbRiddicksTDLeap]

3 hours ago, saundena said:

 

I wouldn't say the Jets are a garbage team.  They played us tough week 1 of last year and Sam Darnold finished out the Season 5-2.  If we come out flat with little urgency, go dormant for a half or simply play sloppy with the football we can lose this game.

 

I most certainly believe we are a better team, but as a division opponent they will play us tough... and with a chip on their shoulders since our Bills have been the media darlings of 2020 in the AFCE.

In fairness, CJ Mosley played tough. He was their entire defense, and it showed when he went out. 
 

The Jets are garbage. There is no way around it. 

[billsbackto81]

Any given Sunday, right?

 

But seriously, if we lose to this Jets team in our house on opening day. Oh Lord!!!! I can hear the sharpening of the pitchforks now.

 

 

[Victory Formation]

It really makes you appreciate what McDermott and Beane have done. Thankfully the Bills have world class ownership.

[Rocky Landing]

1 hour ago, syhuang said:

but.....but.....but......

 

 

(someone seems to forget Allen plays in AFCE)

And Cam Newton.

[MJS]

That could mean they suck, or it could mean their defense is really good, or it could mean both their offense AND defense sucks, but the offense sucks more. Or it could mean that you shouldn't make too many assumptions from training camp performances.

 

But yeah, the Jets are gonna suck.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Manish Mehta right now:

[vincec]

5 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

Isn't it normal for the defense to do better in the preseason/training camp?  There's threads every year about every team's offense being in trouble because it takes them longer to get up to speed than the defense.

Especially when the defense plays an aggressive blitzing scheme like the Jets. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

If you play sloppy or without urgency in any game against any opponent you can easily lose in the NFL.

 

This. 

 

See 2018 Vikings vs Bills. 

 

They thought it was a picnic, and by they time they woke up the ass-kicking was well underway.