JetsFan20 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 As a Jets fan it was his six INT masterpiece vs the Chiefs in 2016. The guy really is an incredibly limited QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I can’t remember. I thought you were a Packers fan? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 The game right after he signed his big extension with the Bills. 18 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 None. Chan Gailey's pop-gun offense lacked sustainable originality. He spent all off-season coming up with a surprise, and at times it worked fine, but he lacked the long-haul thinking to make an offense consistently problematic for the opposing defenses. Fitz tried too hard, but it's as much a reflection of his surrounding talent as it is his shortcomings. The guy can win anything with a good cast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I love the guy, but probably when he was named the starter. A #1 backup, but not a starter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 The game against the Jets after we had beaten the Skins in Toronto to go to 5-1. We got manhandled in our “white out” home game. He was pathetic and that was it. The hope had gone. We went one to lose 8 of our last 10 that year, only barely beating Tebow at home in week 15 or 16. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said: The game against the Jets after we had beaten the Skins in Toronto to go to 5-1. We got manhandled in our “white out” home game. He was pathetic and that was it. The hope had gone. We went one to lose 8 of our last 10 that year, only barely beating Tebow at home in week 15 or 16. It was 5-2 but otherwise I agree. The wheels fell off there and they had already committed the money so we were stuck for another year. I mean, I was always skeptical but it was a hell of a start. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Roughly junior year of high school. This was reinforced by his college play, and confirmed by his draft slot. At some point you have to realize your hoping for a guy to be something he never was. doesnt mean he’s a bum or bad guy... but he’s not the guy you expect to carry anything. You just hope he holds it together and brings a little energy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said: None. Chan Gailey's pop-gun offense lacked sustainable originality. He spent all off-season coming up with a surprise, and at times it worked fine, but he lacked the long-haul thinking to make an offense consistently problematic for the opposing defenses. Fitz tried too hard, but it's as much a reflection of his surrounding talent as it is his shortcomings. The guy can win anything with a good cast. he had a 7th round qb udfa rb 7th and 4 UDFA WRs 7th left tackle dont get me wrong, any one of those guys is fine and I loved Fred but you need actual elite playmakers somewhere to be sustainable. I doubt there was a lower drafted set of skill positions in the league the last 20 years 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 46 minutes ago, Beast said: I can’t remember. I thought you were a Packers fan? I think you’re on to something, Beastly.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I think you’re on to something, Beastly.? Pick the next team, win a prize! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Not a game, it was when he got drafted by Cincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said: The game against the Jets after we had beaten the Skins in Toronto to go to 5-1. We got manhandled in our “white out” home game. He was pathetic and that was it. The hope had gone. We went one to lose 8 of our last 10 that year, only barely beating Tebow at home in week 15 or 16. I thought he got his ribs cracked in that Jets game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bferra13 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, Jamie Nails said: The game against the Jets after we had beaten the Skins in Toronto to go to 5-1. We got manhandled in our “white out” home game. He was pathetic and that was it. The hope had gone. We went one to lose 8 of our last 10 that year, only barely beating Tebow at home in week 15 or 16. I was coming in to post this as well. Though I had my thoughts well before that game as well. But a real stinker that one. Was there live to watch that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: Not a game, it was when he got drafted by Cincy. But that never happened! I never kept track, but I vaguely remember a game against the Cowboys(?), shortly after the extension, that really solidified the thought in my head. I knew Fitz wasn’t the future, but I loved how he played the game. Hard to not like a QB that lowers the boom on DBs instead of just running out of bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Jamie Nails said: The game against the Jets after we had beaten the Skins in Toronto to go to 5-1. We got manhandled in our “white out” home game. He was pathetic and that was it. The hope had gone. We went one to lose 8 of our last 10 that year, only barely beating Tebow at home in week 15 or 16. And what happened in that game from November 2011? NYJ pressed BUF's WRs at the LOS to disrupt their timing. It forced Buffalo to have Fitz throw downfield and exposed his lack of arm strength as RR planned for. After that game it was straight downhill and a blueprint established on how to defeat Buffalo's offense. The Bills managed to score only 140 points in the next 9 games on their way to a 1-8 finish after that 5-2 start. But not before Buddy "The Genius" Nix bowed to pressure and signed Fitz to a significant contract extension that he complained to former Bucs GM Mark Dominik about in a leaked conversation. 58 minutes ago, NoSaint said: he had a 7th round qb udfa rb 7th and 4 UDFA WRs 7th left tackle dont get me wrong, any one of those guys is fine and I loved Fred but you need actual elite playmakers somewhere to be sustainable. I doubt there was a lower drafted set of skill positions in the league the last 20 years Buddy Nix was not suited to the GM job and the game had passed him by. And I think Chan wanted to go with unheralded types as if to prove he could scheme lesser talent. 16-32 after 3 seasons says they were both incapable. Of course, this was after they used the 9th overall pick on a RB and used significant resources to transition in 1 offseason from a Cover 2 defense to a 3-4. That didn't work, but it gobbled up resources which should have been used to add talent on offense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 His first appearance in Buffalo regular season action. My impression was smart guy that wasn’t accurate enough. People in here still seem to knock his arm strength, but I always felt he had enough zip to do well. The accuracy was frustrating. I remember going to a game and the Bills ran some kind of play action rollout to the tight end. Tight End was wide open (missed assignment) and Fitz still missed him by a wide margin. He just seemed to miss enough throws where it becomes hard to win. If he had Orton’s arm he could have been a playoff qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I’ll be the first to admit I thought we had something in him after his game against the Jags. I’ll never forget the 94-97 yard bomb he threw to Owens. I legitimately thought he could be the QB we’ve been looking for. Then after he signed his extension the real him came out. I started seeing more of the flaws including not only his noodle for an arm but the fact that he struggled reading defenses. But then there were games he would have that would make me a believer again and then he would crash back to reality. probably a horrible way to put it. But he played like a 80s slasher movie. Like you think what your seeing is new at first but then you realize it’s same old same old 7 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: His first appearance in Buffalo regular season action. My impression was smart guy that wasn’t accurate enough. People in here still seem to knock his arm strength, but I always felt he had enough zip to do well. The accuracy was frustrating. I remember going to a game and the Bills ran some kind of play action rollout to the tight end. Tight End was wide open (missed assignment) and Fitz still missed him by a wide margin. He just seemed to miss enough throws where it becomes hard to win. If he had Orton’s arm he could have been a playoff qb. I used to say if he had an arm like Jeff George he’d probably be a hall of famer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: As a Jets fan it was his six INT masterpiece vs the Chiefs in 2016. The guy really is an incredibly limited QB. I was never really convinced he was “good” in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: I was never really convinced he was “good” in the first place. He had moments but never could build any consistency 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I really like Fitz. He wasn’t as bad as his reputation now is here. Those were some bad teams we had with very little talent. There’s a reason Fitz wins the job everywhere he goes. He’s not elite and that’s generally why he’s only a temp starter while teams find their hopeful elite quarterback. I can respect the turnovers cause at least he’ll take the chance. Gimme that over check down masters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) To say he wasn't any good is unfair. He's made quite the living being a QB in the NFL, starter or as a backup. I realized he wasn't a franchise QB when it was obvious he had no sustainable lasting potential. He's the classic " lighting in a bottle" type player. Plug him in and he will WOW you with gutsy gunslinger play enough to convince you he may be the answer. Bills, Jets, Bucs, Dolphins. Then the following season, usually after a contract extension the walls come crumbling down. Einstein said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Some how Fitz has everyone fooled. Gotta love the guy! Edited June 10, 2020 by billsbackto81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: Not a game, it was when he got drafted by Cincy. He was drafted by the Rams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I am not sure I can pinpoint a game with Fitz in the way I very definitely can with Tyrod where I just said "nope, this isn't our guy we need to move on." It was more of a dawning realisation in the back half of that 2011 season. That said with better talent around him I still think Fitz could have been the QB to break the drought. There are 9 win type seasons in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Troll Toll said: His first appearance in Buffalo regular season action. My impression was smart guy that wasn’t accurate enough. People in here still seem to knock his arm strength, but I always felt he had enough zip to do well. The accuracy was frustrating. I remember going to a game and the Bills ran some kind of play action rollout to the tight end. Tight End was wide open (missed assignment) and Fitz still missed him by a wide margin. He just seemed to miss enough throws where it becomes hard to win. If he had Orton’s arm he could have been a playoff qb. I mean, Orton had Orton's arm and wasn't a playoff QB... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 It was shortly after my "Fitzmagic" shirt arrived, he then began to sh** the bed. I loved him as a competitor and love how he played the game but I'm glad we got off that roller coaster when we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 5 hours ago, NoSaint said: he had a 7th round qb udfa rb 7th and 4 UDFA WRs 7th left tackle dont get me wrong, any one of those guys is fine and I loved Fred but you need actual elite playmakers somewhere to be sustainable. I doubt there was a lower drafted set of skill positions in the league the last 20 years So are we agreeing? Gailey got his waterbug in the first round, btw. I really don't think the talent level mattered so much as Gailey hanging his hat on one level of original offense-making, without taking into much account that it would be quickly adopted and countered by the other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: It was shortly after my "Fitzmagic" shirt arrived, he then began to sh** the bed. I loved him as a competitor and love how he played the game but I'm glad we got off that roller coaster when we did. So...got a Dolphins version of that shirt ready to go, to put the cheech on them? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Jamie Nails said: The game against the Jets after we had beaten the Skins in Toronto to go to 5-1. We got manhandled in our “white out” home game. He was pathetic and that was it. The hope had gone. We went one to lose 8 of our last 10 that year, only barely beating Tebow at home in week 15 or 16. This Jets game was exactly what came to mind for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 When he was Qb for the jets and needed to win for a playoff spot. I laughed my ass off at these hopeful jets fans knowing the meltdown of interceptions was on the way. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 the day after the Bills gave him $50 Mil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsDude Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 When Trent Edwards flexed his biceps in front of him and gave him a towel to wipe off the bench for him to sit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 The 1st game of the 2012 season comes to mind against the Jets. I know he struggled toward the end of 2011 but it was rumored he had cracked ribs. The Jets opener was supposed to be a statement game that year and he was pretty bad. Topped off by a pick 6 to start the second half. I kinda got pessimistic that day going forward As others eluded he’s a very likeable dude and I give him credit for keep reinventing himself to have that lengthy a career. But teams I think are foolish to think he’s a long term solution 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 If all this 'Fitz bashing' continues, I will sorely be tempted to play the 'Peterman card'. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 hours ago, MJS said: I mean, Orton had Orton's arm and wasn't a playoff QB... Yeah, but he didn’t have Fitz’s brain and guts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Troll Toll said: His first appearance in Buffalo regular season action. My impression was smart guy that wasn’t accurate enough. People in here still seem to knock his arm strength, but I always felt he had enough zip to do well. The accuracy was frustrating. I remember going to a game and the Bills ran some kind of play action rollout to the tight end. Tight End was wide open (missed assignment) and Fitz still missed him by a wide margin. He just seemed to miss enough throws where it becomes hard to win. If he had Orton’s arm he could have been a playoff qb. I think the arm strength and inaccuracies were often tied. Not having as many “easy throws” at his disposal meant he had to stretch outside his comfort zone more than a guy like josh that can thread a needle with a flick of the wrist instead of winding up the whole body to try 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Jamie Nails said: The game against the Jets after we had beaten the Skins in Toronto to go to 5-1. We got manhandled in our “white out” home game. He was pathetic and that was it. The hope had gone. We went one to lose 8 of our last 10 that year, only barely beating Tebow at home in week 15 or 16. I was at the game in Toronto where I believe the Bills pitched a shutout. Fitzy got blown up on a blitz (Fletcher) and hurt his ribs pretty bad. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2012/3/28/2907978/ryan-fitzpatrick-rib-injury-buffalo-bills The next 3 games were losses and Bills lost big in each as Fitz was way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I would take him back on the Bills in a minute to be Allen's backup. Plus he would a good mentor for Josh in handling the job/pressures of being a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 9 hours ago, JetsFan20 said: As a Jets fan it was his six INT masterpiece vs the Chiefs in 2016. The guy really is an incredibly limited QB. For me it was the mono game in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I actually give him credit for getting that almost talentless offense to 5-2 with smoke and mirrors. Basically every defense had more physical talent than our offense so he had to be clever. But he will never truly be better than a bottom 10 starter and will lead a team to 5-7 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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