Coach Tuesday Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Sorry if this is being floated/debunked elsewhere, I’ve scoured the many draft threads and haven’t seen it. But it’s been keeping me up at night. Let’s assume the rumors of Miami preferring Herbert are true, and I’m starting to think they are. What happens to Tua? Conventional wisdom says that he doesn’t make it past the Chargers. Which makes sense - they have a need at the position, and he’d be a big name “get” for marketing purposes (including cross-marketing to the Pacific Islander population of SoCal and Hawaii). But what if the Bolts pass, or take Jordan Love? Then what? Where does Tua end up, how far does he slide? Does Jacksonville take him at 9? Or, does what has been keeping me up at night come to pass - does New England find a way to get him? BB and Saban are buddies and I’m sure New England has all the intel they need to make an informed decision - he fits their biggest need and his off-the-charts processing speed would fit perfectly into that offense. Could this actually happen?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) Who cares? Why are some so concerned about them? It's like too many people around here have grown up as the little brother that was picked on by the Patatriots and are constantly scared of them even though they are about to become irrelevant. Edited April 18, 2020 by DJB 6 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I really wonder what New England is going to do this year. Letting Tom Brady walk was a huge mistake, I wonder what Belichick is going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, DJB said: Who cares? Why are some so concerned about them? It's like too many people around here have grown up as the little brother that was picked on by the Patatriots and are constantly scared of them even though they are about to become irrelevant. I definitely do not want the Patriots to find a good young QB. They are too well coached. That being said, I have no idea how good Tua will be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBillsFan Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) Edited April 18, 2020 by BigBillsFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 He’s got injury concerns. If he does go to the Pats, then it’s up to the Bills to do the right thing, beat the living ***** out of him, and knock him out of football. Problem solved. 1 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 F#$% New England! 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 48 minutes ago, DJB said: Who cares? Why are some so concerned about them? It's like too many people around here have grown up as the little brother that was picked on by the Patatriots and are constantly scared of them even though they are about to become irrelevant. The Bills have been that proverbial little brother, slapped around by a combination of great coach who arguably made a great QB. Until the Bills prove that they have built a bigger bully, do you truly not care of a redux ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonboy Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I remember when I thought NE made a huge mistake in dropping Bledsoe for some unknown guy named Brady......I truly have no idea what they plan for QB, but yeah, they still scare me.....I'll believe the evil empire demise when I see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Whichever way the camcorder bounces, I guess... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 New England won’t jump that high to get him. All the leaks on failed interviews or injury stuff is just draft talk. Someone is gonna jump and grab him high and New England probably doesn’t have to ammo for that and I don’t see why they would. They’re an aging team that needs an influx of youth they need those draft picks and need them to hit to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Dolphins, Chargers, Panthers, Jaguars, Raiders All these teams pick at least once (a couple pick twice) before the Patriots are on board. Anything is possible, but the Patriots would probably need to package multiple 1st Rounders from future years to get high enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 hours ago, DJB said: Who cares? Why are some so concerned about them? It's like too many people around here have grown up as the little brother that was picked on by the Patatriots and are constantly scared of them even though they are about to become irrelevant. Brady was terrible last year and the Bills still lost to them twice. Don't get me wrong. Their dynasty was 80% Brady and 20% Belichick. But until McD proves he can beat the Patriots they are still in the conversation. I think in the end they will sign Cam Newton and challenge the Bills well into December for the division title. Bills have a very difficult schedule but so do the Patriots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 hours ago, DJB said: Who cares? Why are some so concerned about them? It's like too many people around here have grown up as the little brother that was picked on by the Patatriots and are constantly scared of them even though they are about to become irrelevant. Could not agree more. Winners focus on winning. Losers focus on winners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 The Cheaters trading all their picks this year plus next year's 1st only gets them to 7. They would have to include a good player. And then hope the guy they want pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Boy, I sure hope there's time to squeeze in another half dozen Tua threads before the draft starts..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Is Belichick even that good at drafting guys? They've picked more than their fair share of duds. People treat them like geniuses for taking Brady when everyone else passed on him but NE passed on him 5 times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 they'd have to move up that's for sure. in front of the jags i'd think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Blackkat19 said: Get a life will ya. lol. Worrying about stuff you can't control will cause health issues that can be a lot more serious than Tua going to New England. Stay safe and healthy to you and all your family and friends. "Get a life?" You're telling someone who has posted on this site for years, and years, has racked up almost 13,000 posts, studies football religiously, and shares his knowledge, and opinions with the rest of us to "stop worrying about stuff you can't control?" Why even come on a site like this? Are you a troll, or what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Is Belichick even that good at drafting guys? They've picked more than their fair share of duds. People treat them like geniuses for taking Brady when everyone else passed on him but NE passed on him 5 times. I don't know of anyone who think they're geniuses for Brady. Everyone pretty much acknowledges Brady was complete luck for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: "Get a life?" You're telling someone who has posted on this site for years, and years, has racked up almost 13,000 posts, studies football religiously, and shares his knowledge, and opinions with the rest of us to "stop worrying about stuff you can't control?" Why even come on a site like this? Are you a troll, or what? Well he/she IS still on probation, so we've got that going for us............which is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, DJB said: Who cares? Why are some so concerned about them? It's like too many people around here have grown up as the little brother that was picked on by the Patatriots and are constantly scared of them even though they are about to become irrelevant. Um, they went 12-4 and beat us twice this year and have completely curb stomped us for like 20 years. I blows my mind how easily some people are dismissing the Pats. lets try actually beating in a game they actually care about before we dismiss them. Our current coach is 0-6 against them. 19 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Is Belichick even that good at drafting guys? They've picked more than their fair share of duds. People treat them like geniuses for taking Brady when everyone else passed on him but NE passed on him 5 times. They definitely suck at drafting receiver. 35 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: Could not agree more. Winners focus on winning. Losers focus on winners. I mean I agree in our real lives. But in the nfl world, we are a joke to them until we actual beat them. They probably don’t even think they need a qb to win the division again. Edited April 18, 2020 by C.Biscuit97 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Um, they went 12-4 and beat us twice this year and have completely curb stomped us for like 20 years. I blows my mind how easily some people are dismissing the Pats. lets try actually beating in a game they actually care about before we dismiss them. Our current coach is 0-6 against them. Its about not living in the past and always focused on them. It's about moving forward and worrying about the Bills period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 His "off-the-charts processing speed" didn't help him on the wonderlic, apparently. He's not some special prodigy. He's a normal QB prospect who won't even be the first QB taken. You have nothing to fear. He might be good or he might be mediocre. Nobody knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 3 hours ago, DJB said: Who cares? Why are some so concerned about them? It's like too many people around here have grown up as the little brother that was picked on by the Patatriots and are constantly scared of them even though they are about to become irrelevant. Look up "judgemental." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Remember all those rumors that the Patriots were going to trade up for Josh Rosen? In retrospect I wish they had done it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 not likely, check their cap numbers and they may have to move Thuney (G) to get relief existing pack of pics which exceeds current cap space brady was a mid-round pick, its the coaching ya know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 46 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Remember all those rumors that the Patriots were going to trade up for Josh Rosen? In retrospect I wish they had done it. Rosen may have ended up decent in NE tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 highly doubt NE moves into top 10 tua would have to fall to 20 i say BB lets the draft come to him.....if a QB doesnt work out in draft, he can sign a veteran on the cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, FireChans said: Rosen may have ended up decent in NE tbh. Rosen needs an elite offensive line to be a serviceable NFL QB. He wasn't supposed to need development, he was supposed to come in as the pro-ready QB. So I don't see how sitting behind Brady for 2 years and then playing beyond a mediocre offensive line would do anything for his career. He is simply not good. But there will always be people claiming a bad QB would have been good "in the right situation." I don't buy that stuff. I think if you're going to be good you'll show some kind of potential early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Rosen needs an elite offensive line to be a serviceable NFL QB. He wasn't supposed to need development, he was supposed to come in as the pro-ready QB. So I don't see how sitting behind Brady for 2 years and then playing beyond a mediocre offensive line would do anything for his career. He is simply not good. But there will always be people claiming a bad QB would have been good "in the right situation." I don't buy that stuff. I think if you're going to be good you'll show some kind of potential early on. In general, I absolutely agree. I’m one of those people who believes EJ would have sucked anywhere. However, I don’t think it’s unfair to say that Rosen has had perhaps the unluckiest start by a young QB I can remember. And that NE has made a decent amount of limited QB’s look okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Belichick could make it happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 4 hours ago, auburnbillsbacker said: I definitely do not want the Patriots to find a good young QB. They are too well coached. That being said, I have no idea how good Tua will be. We almost beat them twice last year with the GOAT.... I am not too worried about Bellicheat without Brady. They truly were a great combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, First Round Bust said: not likely, check their cap numbers and they may have to move Thuney (G) to get relief existing pack of pics which exceeds current cap space brady was a mid-round pick, its the coaching ya know No one is trading much for Thuney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: "Get a life?" You're telling someone who has posted on this site for years, and years, has racked up almost 13,000 posts, studies football religiously, and shares his knowledge, and opinions with the rest of us to "stop worrying about stuff you can't control?" Why even come on a site like this? Are you a troll, or what? When you put it that way - I kind of do need to get a life? Edited April 18, 2020 by Coach Tuesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 There's always a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Rumor is they're taking some nobody in the latter rounds to play QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Victory Formation said: I really wonder what New England is going to do this year. Letting Tom Brady walk was a huge mistake, I wonder what Belichick is going to do. Idk if letting Tom go at this stage In his career was a huge mistake. I think he’s going to crash and burn in Tampa. Just like Bledsoe, Belichick knows that Brady is done and that his best years are behind him. Tampa bought themselves a huge pile of fools gold. I think New England takes a big step back this year. They lost some key players on defense like Van Noy to a divisional rival in Miami. And their QB situation isn’t very good, they don’t have any WR’s and their o line looks shaky especially since they lost their center again to retirement Edited April 18, 2020 by BuffaloBills1998 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Rumor is they're taking some nobody in the latter rounds to play QB They got plenty of picks to go after anyone after the 1st 3 wherever they slot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Brady was terrible last year and the Bills still lost to them twice. Don't get me wrong. Their dynasty was 80% Brady and 20% Belichick. But until McD proves he can beat the Patriots they are still in the conversation. I think in the end they will sign Cam Newton and challenge the Bills well into December for the division title. Bills have a very difficult schedule but so do the Patriots. Newton would have to play for almost the veteran minimum to fit into the Cheatriots cap space. Cam will have other offers and for money that NE can't pay. IMHO, things won't happen for Newton until after the draft and when players can travel for physicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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