Reks Ryan Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 10:56 AM, 32ABBA said: You compare Dan Marino to Kirk Cousins? You're blocked. I have lived in Miami, and watched a ton of Marino games and many in person. He was an amazingly talented passer, but not a great QB if your goal is to win the game. A very over rated player. There are several QBs from the 80's - 90's that I would choose over Marino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Reks Ryan said: I have lived in Miami, and watched a ton of Marino games and many in person. He was an amazingly talented passer, but not a great QB if your goal is to win the game. A very over rated player. There are several QBs from the 80's - 90's that I would choose over Marino. Other than Joe Montana, who exactly was Marino worse than in the 80's and 90's? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 11:55 AM, Buffalo03 said: It seems like Diggs has been more hurt than that and missed more games but either way Diggs is also a lot more inconsistent than Green is. Green has played 8 seasons, and his highest catch rate is 66%. That would be the worst of Diggs’s career excluding his rookie season. Diggs has a catch rate of 68.4% for his career compared to Green’s 58.7%. They have an identical 8.7 yards per target for their careers. If Green is better, it’s not by much and that’s if he’s healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) On 2/25/2020 at 12:37 PM, H2o said: I still think the Vikings have flexibility to free up $$$ outside of Diggs that makes more sense. The fact they have been quite uninhibited handing out those contracts though is finally catching up with them. They have more than a couple of bad ones, but Diggs isn't one of them tbh. Just cutting Linval Joseph and Xavier Rhodes could free up something like $18,000,000 for them I believe. Just a quick question, can we sign Xavier Rhodes if Minny cuts him? I'd love to have 2 of the 10 best CBs in the league. 17 minutes ago, njbuff said: Other than Joe Montana, who exactly was Marino worse than in the 80's and 90's? I'm curious too. Steve Young? John Elway? In the conversation. Jim Kelly? But I'm a homer. What would SF, Dallas, Buffalo, Denver or KC have done in the 80s-90s with their respective teams and Dan Marino? It feels like multiple rings to me. Edited February 27, 2020 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Just a quick question, can we sign Xavier Rhodes if Minny cuts him? I'd love to have 2 of the 10 best CBs in the league. I'm curious too. Steve Young? John Elway? In the conversation. Jim Kelly? But I'm a homer. What would SF, Dallas, Buffalo, Denver or KC have done in the 80s-90s with their respective teams and Dan Marino? It feels like multiple rings to me. I find the Marino bashing funny. Where was his Thurman Thomas, Emmitt Smith, Terrell Davis, Ricky Watters, Roger Craig, Ernest Byner, Marshall Faulk? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Billl said: Green has played 8 seasons, and his highest catch rate is 66%. That would be the worst of Diggs’s career excluding his rookie season. Diggs has a catch rate of 68.4% for his career compared to Green’s 58.7%. They have an identical 8.7 yards per target for their careers. If Green is better, it’s not by much and that’s if he’s healthy. I'm not talking about catch radius, I'm talking about production on a game to game basis. Diggs disappears for multiple games at a time frequently. Green might have a bad game here and there but is all around more consistent. AJ Green when completely healthy can be a top 5 receiver. Diggs at his best right now is maybe between 10-15 Edited February 27, 2020 by Buffalo03 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I sure hope we end up signing Diggs. I think he might develop chemistry with Josh very quickly, and could probably even have the best receiving year in Bills franchise history! This guy would be a legitimate #1 in the right offense. I mean, he could carry us to the AFC Championship Game! (I think they still might not be able to get past KC, though.) 1 1 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, BuffalothruMyVeins said: I sure hope we end up signing Diggs. I think he might develop chemistry with Josh very quickly, and could probably even have the best receiving year in Bills franchise history! This guy would be a legitimate #1 in the right offense. I mean, he could carry us to the AFC Championship Game! (I think they still might not be able to get past KC, though.) Yea ok......I don’t see any of that happening. Diggs is overrated IMO , much better/cheaper options in the draft. If Beane makes this trade I’d be highly disappointed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: Yea ok......I don’t see any of that happening. Diggs is overrated IMO , much better/cheaper options in the draft. If Beane makes this trade I’d be highly disappointed! Clearly a locker room cancer. Hope Beane moves on from this nonsense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 K this ***** with me hard. I didn't look at the date 1st lol 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: Yea ok......I don’t see any of that happening. Diggs is overrated IMO , much better/cheaper options in the draft. If Beane makes this trade I’d be highly disappointed! I'm prepared to make a rather significant wager on this. I say he gets between 70-80 catches, might clear 1,000 yards but I'm not that willing to put that much money on the yardage part. I'm thinking like "Peak Stevie Johnson". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 JfC. Trying to put me in the hospital? Egregious thread bump even with the edited title 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Diggs: - Not as good as Theilen. - Isn’t tough, doesn’t make contested catches. - Not special. - Not worth a first. - Diva who will demand more money. - Is equal to John Brown. What a history lesson this thread is. 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: JfC. Trying to put me in the hospital? Egregious thread bump even with the edited title In agreement with this ⬆️, BuffalothruMyVeins owes many of us for damages from bumping that thread title. 🤨 *😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Some freezing cold takes in this thread. LOLZ at the people who thought Thielen was better than Diggs. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Some freezing cold takes in this thread. LOLZ at the people who thought Thielen was better than Diggs. These are always fun to look back upon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Always fun to retrospectively look back at what folk said , and how sure they were in their opinions..., Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/18/2020 at 9:32 PM, KGun12TD said: so glad you’re not negotiating for the Bills...lol You got it! I’m here for you guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/18/2020 at 9:30 PM, Doc Brown said: 1st and a 3rd. He's that good. nice projection, which you were actually laughed at for! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Some freezing cold takes in this thread. LOLZ at the people who thought Thielen was better than Diggs. I never thought this myself for one second. And really couldn't understand why those that did came to that conclusion. Edited February 18, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Id take a 2nd rder for him... would really help us get that middling running back we need.... someone real.... 3.2 ypc'ey 🙄 BEANE WAKE UP! GET NEW ENGLAND ON THE PHONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Sorry, I didn’t see a lot of bad takes there. Diggs was a very good WR who Josh Allen turned into an All-Pro. Beasley, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/18/2020 at 9:57 PM, Reed83HOF said: There is no way you don't pull the trigger on this Glad to see I was on the right side of this one 😂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Glad to see I was on the right side of this one 😂 yea same.. Guess we can be ok about things at last one out of 3 times haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: yea same.. Guess we can be ok about things at last one out of 3 times haha I was a wrong josh guy, glad I redeemed myself here lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Glad to see I was on the right side of this one 😂 lol, you and some others. Think it was a no brainer at the time. I mean to at least attempt to get him. Obviously we needed more help with passing game. However I didn't think Bills would get him though. Thought he would have went with another team. Very glad to see Bills as a very desirable team to play for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 this is not the thread I would like to see revived and back to the living... Id live to see the "Diggs Signed" thread to see how many of us went ballistic on the price on that trade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: I was a wrong josh guy, glad I redeemed myself here lol Lol, I was a Baker guy at that time, but obviously knew he wouldn't last when Bills picked. Very happy how it turned out though. Edited February 18, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) On 2/18/2020 at 9:53 PM, MAJBobby said: Ahhhh wiki never change. And which one of you did this. Maybe start monitoring Watt's Wiki page instead of his tweets??? Edited February 18, 2021 by Solomon Grundy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said: Id take a 2nd rder for him... would really help us get that middling running back we need.... someone real.... 3.2 ypc'ey 🙄 BEANE WAKE UP! GET NEW ENGLAND ON THE PHONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Travis Henry busy? All those book bags, sneakers, iPads have to be costing a fair amount. Good motivation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 hours ago, BuffalothruMyVeins said: I'm prepared to make a rather significant wager on this. I say he gets between 70-80 catches, might clear 1,000 yards but I'm not that willing to put that much money on the yardage part. I'm thinking like "Peak Stevie Johnson". Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 How did I miss (out) on this thread last year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Doc said: How did I miss (out) on this thread last year? Me too i must have had better things to do on a Tuesday....like work Edited February 18, 2021 by JMF2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 hours ago, eball said: These are always fun to look back upon. The thread of when the Bills drafted Josh Allen is the best one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Love this trade. We gave up a lot but he's elite and my immediate hot take is that he leads the NFL in receptions and yards while leading us to at least the AFC Championship. Flame away guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/19/2020 at 2:01 AM, hjnick said: Diggs is good, but I wouldn't give a 1st for him with that contract AND he might be unhappy with it. For this year, I'd like to keep our 1st and 2nd round pick. I'd see if they would take a 2020 3rd and 2021 3rd round pick for Diggs. That way we can draft for needs in the 1st and 2nd. Still would like to get another WR in the draft. This was the weirdest take for me at the time. Was a great contract for someone widely regarded as a top 10 WR. On 2/19/2020 at 2:54 AM, Buffalo Barbarian said: just a third, if Minnesota wants to get rid of him no need to overpay. Offering a third for Diggs would have been like all the cheapskates lowballing me with $500 offers for my Mustang. Becomes a "I'll tow it to a scrap yard before I take such an insulting offer" situation. As if other teams wouldn't be willing to do better than a 3rd. You don't spit in someone's face and then say you did them a favor by moisturizing their dry skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: This was the weirdest take for me at the time. Was a great contract for someone widely regarded as a top 10 WR. Offering a third for Diggs would have been like all the cheapskates lowballing me with $500 offers for my Mustang. Becomes a "I'll tow it to a scrap yard before I take such an insulting offer" situation. As if other teams wouldn't be willing to do better than a 3rd. You don't spit in someone's face and then say you did them a favor by moisturizing their dry skin. That's classic. Oughtta be a proverb. Hope you don't mind if I steal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I think most of the opinions were pretty valid at the time. Diggs had a breakout year. Yeah, everyone knew he was a good receiver, but at the time there was not evidence of him being an All-Pro receiver and being able to lead the league in receptions and receiving yards. And those who thought Thielen was better were justified in how the Vikings used them both. Thielen seemed to be the go-to receiver there with Diggs used as a deep threat. At the time of the trade there were tons of people saying we overpaid, including Bills fans. Turns out we did not overpay and Diggs was a huge difference maker and proved he could be one of the best receivers in the league. But at the time, Diggs had had a couple of 1,000 yard seasons and showed he was a great route runner, but he had not shown that he was an All-Pro caliber receiver yet. I was not against the trade when it happened and I was hopeful of what Diggs could mean to the offense, but I don't think it was wrong for others to have been worried about the move and think we gave up too much at the time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 40 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's classic. Oughtta be a proverb. Hope you don't mind if I steal it. Go ahead I guess, I just modified it from "Don't spit on me and tell me it's raining" to fit the idea of "doing them a favor" by taking something valuable from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Phew. Was worried I was going to hate on it. I hadn’t seen much of Diggs the prior season and wasn’t a big fan of him, due to my buddy (a huge Vikings fan) always telling me how amazing his was. Turns out, my scenario would’ve been best case. Trade down, accumulate more picks, than trade our first pick for Diggs. 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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