Week 15: Bills at Steelers on SNF

[wppete]

[Do The Reich Thing]

19 minutes ago, Westside Madness said:

In various threads I am hearing both:

 

1. Win one more game and we are in the playoffs!

2. No, that's not true, it was said in error by the media!

 

Which is it? There appears to be a path where HOU, TEN, PIT and BUF end up at 10-6. My understanding is that with a 3/4 way tie, head to head is not relevant.

 

So, what factors guarantee us a playoff berth with one more win?

The bills are in with one more win. Period. 

14 minutes ago, Process said:

I'm shocked the bills are favored. I would have guessed the odds makers would have viewed the teams as equal and make Steelers -3.

It’s a FOURTH.... yes FOURTH string QB. For gods sake the Bills need to win this game. 

[Boatdrinks]

23 minutes ago, Westside Madness said:

In various threads I am hearing both:

 

1. Win one more game and we are in the playoffs!

2. No, that's not true, it was said in error by the media!

 

Which is it? There appears to be a path where HOU, TEN, PIT and BUF end up at 10-6. My understanding is that with a 3/4 way tie, head to head is not relevant.

 

So, what factors guarantee us a playoff berth with one more win?

I believe HOU loss to DEN plus IND , OAK losses are the factors at work here. If HOU won today, they could have bested Bills at 10-6 due to conference record. TEN or HOU will win division, but the loser would be tossed out by Bills at 10-6. 

[HappyDays]

Honestly not too worried about this game. My final score prediction is something like 24-10. I think we totally shut down the Steelers offense and their backup QB, and the offense does just enough to slowly pull away. Similar to the Broncos game in a lot of ways. If our offense does exactly what it did today, as bad as it looked it will probably still be enough. The reason we are favored is Vegas is smart enough to see through Duck Hodges.

[whatdrought]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Honestly not too worried about this game. My final score prediction is something like 24-10. I think we totally shut down the Steelers offense and their backup QB, and the offense does just enough to slowly pull away. Similar to the Broncos game in a lot of ways. If our offense does exactly what it did today, as bad as it looked it will probably still be enough. The reason we are favored is Vegas is smart enough to see through Duck Hodges.

 

This is how I feel as well.... Hopefully we're not missing something. I just don't see Duck Hodges doing anything. If Our offense can run the ball and play loose, it should be a good game for us. 

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

1 hour ago, Mark Vader said:

Right on cue, here come the Allen haters.

 

Somebody needs attention.

Same old comments I heard a few weeks ago.. with Kyle Allen, and Minshew and that Denver qb.. some fans on here live play to play with this obsession. I’ve moved on, time To get ready for Pittsburgh 

Edited December 9, 2019 by loveorhatembillsfan4life

[wvbillsfan]

Don’t turn the ball over and it’s a win. Steelers get a lot of game changing plays on defense. 

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Penfield45 said:

Allen has yet to beat a playoff team in his career

 

Drew Lock today went on the road and beat a playoff team putting up 300+ yards. 

The Cowboys are a playoff team. And he went on the road and beat them. WGAS about yards.

[Penfield45]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

I think we handle them like we did Dallas. Just dominate and take advantage of their aggressiveness. Allen and Daboll saw it today , learn from it. 

Actually I see this being more like the Denver game. This D holds them under 10 points

 

Dabboll hasn't learnt anything all year lol

 

you saw first hand today how clueless he is. ravens send blitz from the first drive to the last and he didn't make a single adjustment to it. no screens, max protect, TE seam routes, quick slants. 

 

Dabboll is so out of his depth at OC its embarrassing. 

[Boatdrinks]

51 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

When’s the last time Buffalo beat Pittsburgh. Not since he 90s I believe. I’m very nervous about this game. Seems like they always have our number. 

 

Maybe it’s the BBFS in me, but I see us not making the playoffs and losing out 

I don’t think the Bills have won a regular season game @PIT. I still think this one is a loss ; it’s a bad matchup. Bills will have to wait until Jets game to punch their playoff ticket. Winning lots of games earlier in the season makes that possible though. 

[DefenseWins]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/upshot/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoff-picture.html#&

 

Click on Bills to Win on ANY of their three remaining games and they are in the playoffs. Don't Worry - Be Happy!

 

[DuckyBoys]

I'm going to trust the Bills to win  They havent lost a game yet where I feel they were supposed to win this year.  Steelers defense is good and their special teams have been great

[Formerly Allan in MD]

29 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Honestly not too worried about this game. My final score prediction is something like 24-10. I think we totally shut down the Steelers offense and their backup QB, and the offense does just enough to slowly pull away. Similar to the Broncos game in a lot of ways. If our offense does exactly what it did today, as bad as it looked it will probably still be enough. The reason we are favored is Vegas is smart enough to see through Duck Hodges.

"Probably still be enough" won't get you very far in today's NFL.  I want my team to have a killer instinct, which we see very little sign of despite the record, i.e. barely enough is not good enough if you want to truly go places.

[Mango]

The Pitt D is up there via DVOA with NE, SF, and BAL. I expect the offense to struggle again. Bills have struggled bad against the top 5 Defenses on the road. But Allen has been better in the road.

 

We need a win before heading into Gillette. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

The Pitt D is up there via DVOA with NE, SF, and BAL. I expect the offense to struggle again. Bills have struggled bad against the top 5 Defenses on the road. But Allen has been better in the road.

 

We need a win before heading into Gillette. 

yet they lost 1 road game thus far 

 

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

I think the offense does enough. The duck stops here with Mcd. We should expect our d to make life miserable like we did to Denver. 

[apuszczalowski]

I think this game will be an ugly defensive slugfest that isn't going to be good for NBCs ratings

I think both defences will be tough and the score will be in the teens for both teams.

Its 50-50 to me who wins this game. I'm more confident they win in NE then I am them winning in Pittsburgh right now

[GETTOTHE50]

34 minutes ago, DefenseWins said:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/upshot/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoff-picture.html#&

 

Click on Bills to Win on ANY of their three remaining games and they are in the playoffs. Don't Worry - Be Happy!

 

 

Doesnt that mean titans or pitt also have to lose a game for that happen?

 

they are both have only 5 losses so far.

 

thats why winning next week is big

[Charles Romes]

Kind of shocked Bills are favored.  The home Steelers have won 8 of 10 with second and third string QBs.  

[Boatdrinks]

6 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

 

Doesnt that mean titans or pitt also have to lose a game for that happen?

 

they are both have only 5 losses so far.

 

thats why winning next week is big

No. Titans play HOU twice in final 3 weeks, so if TEN is 11-5 that means HOU 10-6 at best. They would lose Tb to Bills . PIT can be 5 seed at 11-5 

[ColoradoBills]

10 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

 

Doesnt that mean titans or pitt also have to lose a game for that happen?

 

they are both have only 5 losses so far.

 

thats why winning next week is big

 

no

[Blank Stare]

6 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

Kind of shocked Bills are favored.  The home Steelers have won 8 of 10 with second and third string QBs.  

Tomlin is doing a helluva job this year. Maybe his finest yet. But if we can’t beat a team led by devlin Hodges with this defense, I’ll have serious questions about our playoff legitimacy. Yes, they are at home with a great defense, but you have to figure out a way to get this done. Play like it means something. 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

16 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

 

Doesnt that mean titans or pitt also have to lose a game for that happen?

 

they are both have only 5 losses so far.

 

thats why winning next week is big

Without looking, I imagine it's because the Texans and Titans play each other, thus making sure one of those 2 will have 6 losses

 

Edit: already answered should have kept reading the thread,

Go Bill's

Edited December 9, 2019 by Cheektowaga Chad

[Ethan in Cleveland]

I'm very nervous. They have a great o-line but so did Dallas. If we can't beat a rookie QB in his third start on national TV then we don't belong.

[Cheektowaga Chad]

3 hours ago, mykidsdad said:

Win and in, right? That makes this the biggest Bill's game of the century. 

Well since we played the Steelers and their third string QB, a third string rb.......feels like deja vu

[MDH]

1 hour ago, DefenseWins said:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/upshot/buffalo-bills-nfl-playoff-picture.html#&

 

Click on Bills to Win on ANY of their three remaining games and they are in the playoffs. Don't Worry - Be Happy!

 

If they lose out they still get in 56% of the time. Not that anybody wants to get in that way...

38 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

Kind of shocked Bills are favored.  The home Steelers have won 8 of 10 with second and third string QBs.  

I keep seeing people call a Hodges 3rd string. If Rudolph is benched and Hodges promoted doesn’t that make Hodges 2nd string?

 

If Rudolph was hurt and that was the reason Hodges was promoted then he’d be the 3rd string QB.

[Dointhatrag]

At the start of the season Pitt quarterbacks were:

rothlesberger

rudolph

josh dobbs 

 

hodges was cut during preseason and eventually signed to the steelers practice squad.  After the start of the season dobbs was traded and Hodges signed to the team.  Then rothelesberger was injured.  So Hodges was fourth string at the start of the season. 

 

[Rc2catch]

That defense is playing lights out. TJ Watt is pretty scary. Even more scary if he’s taking on Ford one on one. They better learn from the film of this Baltimore game cause the blitz is coming next week too but it will be much better disguised. Baltimore didn’t even try to hide it lol just lined up and rushed right at us. Pittsburgh is coming from everywhere and Fitzpatrick is just playing centerfield knocking down passes. 
 

Luckily I like our chances vs the duck. 
If this defense can force Brady into his worst game ever, then contain Lamar mostly, I’d be pretty disappointed if they let up and got beaten by 3rd string duck 

[Billznut]

3 hours ago, VaMilBill said:

When’s the last time Buffalo beat Pittsburgh. Not since he 90s I believe. I’m very nervous about this game. Seems like they always have our number. 

 

Maybe it’s the BBFS in me, but I see us not making the playoffs and losing out 

The Bills are 2-10 all time in Pittsburgh. 1 playoff win 1992, 1 regular season win 1975. So 44 years since the Bills have won in Pitt in reg season. 

1 hour ago, Charles Romes said:

Kind of shocked Bills are favored.  The home Steelers have won 8 of 10 with second and third string QBs.  

Bills are 1.5 pt underdogs everything I’ve seen. 

[GoBills808]

5 hours ago, Penfield45 said:

big game for Allen

 

can he step up against a good defense and win the game on primetime? 

 

 

Already did

[mykidsdad]

2 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Well since we played the Steelers and their third string QB, a third string rb.......feels like deja vu

Willie Parker and Mark Maddox. Bad memories.  

[Buffalo Barbarian]

 

I believe we win but im concerned about our Oline holding up against the blitz .

 

We also need to get back to Josh running the ball more, that didnt happen against the ravens, but was prominent in the three weeks before.

 

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, Penfield45 said:

big game for Allen

 

can he step up against a good defense and win the game on primetime? I'm tired of struggling to score 20 points per game with this offense meanwhile the Titans with Tannehill are putting up 30+ points every week for fun. 

 

 

 

Did you miss the previous 3 games ?? And how did Josh do josh do in the biggest primetime game of the season on thanksgiving??

 

 

6 hours ago, Slack_in_MA said:

How do you make it through the day? Sheesh...

 

coke

 

 

6 hours ago, Penfield45 said:

Allen has yet to beat a playoff team in his career

 

Drew Lock today went on the road and beat a playoff team putting up 300+ yards. 

 

Oooh 300 yds 

 

You related to Mike Schopp??

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

5 hours ago, VaMilBill said:

When’s the last time Buffalo beat Pittsburgh. Not since he 90s I believe. I’m very nervous about this game. Seems like they always have our number. 

 

Maybe it’s the BBFS in me, but I see us not making the playoffs and losing out 

 

seriously!? What the hell is wrong with you people. How we did against the steelers in the past has nothing to do with this team and this regime. WE ARE GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS 

 

 

5 hours ago, Penfield45 said:

 

Dabboll hasn't learnt anything all year lol

 

you saw first hand today how clueless he is. ravens send blitz from the first drive to the last and he didn't make a single adjustment to it. no screens, max protect, TE seam routes, quick slants. 

 

Dabboll is so out of his depth at OC its embarrassing. 

 

Maybe you should learnt proper grammar.

 

 

[JoshAllin]

I picked bills to beat denver, dallas and ravens and not gonna lie, tj watt, minka and their D has me a bit worried the most this matchup. Though I still think bills pull it off, juju, connor and possibly vance being out could be huge

[ganesh]

7 hours ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

Where as today the Ravens were the better team, as well as Pitt has been playing I do think we are the better team and should take this. Our d should give them fits. 

I assume you meant:

   -  Today the Baltimore Ravens were a better team than us.

   -  However, Pittsburgh is NOT as good as the Buffalo Bills and hence we (Buffalo Bills) should be able to win the game next week

   -  Our Defense is very good and will give them fits.

 

Pittsburgh has a very opportunistic defense and leads the NFL in takeaways.  They know to bring Pressure.  Watt has been playing at a high level.  This will be a challenge for our OL.

Pittsburgh has one of the very best OL in football. They give time for the QB to throw. It will be a good test for our DB's to hang in there with their WRs. 

I also assume Conner and JuJU will be back for this game.  

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

2 hours ago, ganesh said:

I assume you meant:

   -  Today the Baltimore Ravens were a better team than us.

   -  However, Pittsburgh is NOT as good as the Buffalo Bills and hence we (Buffalo Bills) should be able to win the game next week

   -  Our Defense is very good and will give them fits.

 

Pittsburgh has a very opportunistic defense and leads the NFL in takeaways.  They know to bring Pressure.  Watt has been playing at a high level.  This will be a challenge for our OL.

Pittsburgh has one of the very best OL in football. They give time for the QB to throw. It will be a good test for our DB's to hang in there with their WRs. 

I also assume Conner and JuJU will be back for this game.  

Thanks yes that’s what I meant.

 

I think head to toe we have a better overall roster than the Steelers. It may be close but I think we squeak it out. 

Edited December 9, 2019 by loveorhatembillsfan4life

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

5 hours ago, Billznut said:

The Bills are 2-10 all time in Pittsburgh. 1 playoff win 1992, 1 regular season win 1975. So 44 years since the Bills have won in Pitt in reg season. 

Bills are 1.5 pt underdogs everything I’ve seen. 

Steelers Vault to 1.5-Point Favorites After Opening as Underdogs vs Bills in Week 15 SNF

By Daniel Coyle in NFL Football — December 8, 2019 8:44 PM PST

 

[CaptnCoke11]

Bills offense better come out playing much better with a better plan at Pittsburgh or it will be a long day.  Their defense is fantastic

[billsbackto81]

10 hours ago, Penfield45 said:

Allen has yet to beat a playoff team in his career

 

Drew Lock today went on the road and beat a playoff team putting up 300+ yards. 

No team has beaten a playoff team this season. The schedule doesn't work that way.