Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, Brandon_Bean said: Yeah, Bills fans convinced him to sign here, and that was it for his career basically. Oh hell it is worse than that. He just missed playoff runs with the Eagles and 49ers too. Starcrossed for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Brandon_Bean said: I've been thinking about Fred Jackson lately, wish he could play on this team. Yep, And Ernie Warlick would have been awesome too....... sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Zero chance that he's bitter. He made the decision to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) Kyle could always unretire and I'm sure he would be welcomed Edited December 3, 2019 by Billzgobowlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Bring him in as a DL coach so he can get a ring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I feel a little bit of that, but I think with his ongoing connection to the team including acting as a guest coach in training camp, he feels like he's part of the success the team is enjoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 He made a ton of money, will never have to buy a meal again in Buffalo and will someday be on the wall of fame. Don't feel badly for him one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Sorry but I don’t and I doubt Kyle wants us to feel sorry for him. KW has a great career, made a bucketful of cash and has his health. As fans we should be grateful for such a high character guy amongst us but never should we feel sorry for someone who walks away with financial security and good health. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: I wouldn’t be surprised if he and McDermott have each other on speed dial should we need some depth/injury coverage in the DL for the postseason. He still looks like he’s ready to play tomorrow if the call came in. if we needed him desperately, he answers that call 100% of the time. Kyle has lost a lot of weight and I doubt he would be able to successfully play in current shape although for life he is probably in better shape. 2 hours ago, Brandon_Bean said: I've been thinking about Fred Jackson lately, wish he could play on this team. Maybe they could ask him to emulate Lamar Jackson in practice 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: I liked Kyle. But I feel worse for Takeo Spikes. I still have a TKO hat I wear sometimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, warrior9 said: Out of all of his year here, we failed to win consistently and aside from the one play off appearance he didn't see much of it, period. The year after he leaves, we have this fantastic season and the best start in 20 years. I wish he would have been able to be apart of something like this. I'm sure he's happy for the organization but I can't help but wonder if he's a little bitter that in his 13 years here, we couldn't put this type of team on the field with him. Does he have a psuedo job as DT coach thus he can get a ring ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, warrior9 said: Out of all of his year here, we failed to win consistently and aside from the one play off appearance he didn't see much of it, period. The year after he leaves, we have this fantastic season and the best start in 20 years. I wish he would have been able to be apart of something like this. I'm sure he's happy for the organization but I can't help but wonder if he's a little bitter that in his 13 years here, we couldn't put this type of team on the field with him. Hopefully it ends just like the year after Don Mattingly retired from the Yankees. That ended in a championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 At least Kyle Williams got to play in a playoff game. Not so for Fred Jackson. He had the satisfaction of beating out Marshawn Lynch, and the great respect and affection of Bills fans, but never got widely recognized (except the Chicago Bear he dismissed with a classic stiff-arm). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, whatdrought said: I dunno, I think he can rest easy in knowing that he has done a lot to help make this team what it is- from his example and leadership both as a player, and then during camp this year. And in recruiting. Say what you will about Mario but I still look at that signing as a massive step in changing our perception around the league as a franchise no free agent would choose and Kyle played a large role in landing Mario. I know a few other vets talked to KW before signing in Buffalo including Gore. He has been a great ambassador of the franchise. Edited December 3, 2019 by Jauronimo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: You mean like Kyle signing as depth for a playoff run? ? Can he? Or is it too late to come out of retirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Think about him regularly. Deserves to be on the Wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, djp14150 said: Does he have a psuedo job as DT coach thus he can get a ring ? I don’t think he would want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I always felt that way for Aaron Schobel and Takeo Spikes. Both were class acts and never got to play in a playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't think bitter, but envious perhaps? Lee Smith said he called Kyle (whom he knew from his first stint with the Bills) and asked his view on Allen and where the Bills were headed, and that what Kyle said sold him - that Allen was the QB he wished the Bills had had during his entire career instead of the final year. Thank God for Kyle. I don't know where this team would be without Lee Smith. He's truly been our lynch pin this year. Another gem from McBeane and Co. Ok. I kid... I'm sure he's a great locker room guy!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 When the Bills win the Super Bowl this year, Kyle gets a ring like The Eagles did for Dorenbos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: When the Bills win the Super Bowl this year, Kyle gets a ring like The Eagles did for Dorenbos. Dorenbos got the ring because his trade was cancelled due to his health and he went on some list for Eagles. Loved the Magic Man when he played for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Dorenbos got the ring because his trade was cancelled due to his health and he went on some list for Eagles. Loved the Magic Man when he played for Buffalo. I just saw a Dorenbos interview, and he said he was not a part of the Eagles at all when he got the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Augie said: I’m saving my pity for Jimbo, Thurman, Bruce and Andre..........................after we win the Super Bowl! ? That first Super Bowl loss...that was supposed to be their finest hour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Made tens of millions playing football, retired in his mid 30s and is set for life. How does the guy sleep at night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: That first Super Bowl loss...that was supposed to be their finest hour! But they just couldn’t stay sober enough to eat Cheetoh’s! (Bruce 30 for 30 reference. Big party after 51-3, couldn’t find mouth with food. They can laugh now. Oh well.....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Augie said: But they just couldn’t stay sober enough to eat Cheetoh’s! (Bruce 30 for 30 reference. Big party after 51-3, couldn’t find mouth with food. They can laugh now. Oh well.....) I never realized the impact that their partying life would have on their game until years later. It was partial denial on my part, and just the disbelief that athletes with so much at stake could be so reckless. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Utah John said: At least Kyle Williams got to play in a playoff game. Not so for Fred Jackson. He had the satisfaction of beating out Marshawn Lynch, and the great respect and affection of Bills fans, but never got widely recognized (except the Chicago Bear he dismissed with a classic stiff-arm). If I had to pick 2 players who deserved better during the drought years it was definitely Kyle & Fred. But I also know they'll be pulling for this team like no tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 9 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: He's still pretty involved with the team. He did the narraration for the Bills Hard Knockoff (Just made that name up while I was typing this) on YouTube. Also helped Oliver out during training camp. Gave a pretty cool speech to the players about what this team actually means to the community. (Paraphrasing) "Teams in LA, Chicago, New York. They're luxuries. The people there are there to woo clients and such. In Buffalo, the people there are the die hard fans who love this team." Wouldn't be surprised if he's brought back in some sort of coaching role in the next year or two. Neither would I. I remember during last year's Combine when he was a guest commentator on NFL Network during the DL drills. When the drills had concluded, the crew was talking about the Bills and the camera got a shot of the Bills staff in attendance and Kyle was with them talking to McDermott. I'm sure Kyle is still in touch with the staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I'm sure Kyle does feel a bit of FOMO with this year's team, but I bet his knees don't mind. Like my use of FOMO sometimes the timing is just off by a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven50 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Brandon_Bean said: I've been thinking about Fred Jackson lately, wish he could play on this team. I was just about to post this. He was a solid trooper for many years and doesn't get the love he deserves. I dont think I have seen him in any commercials or local radio stations since he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 11 hours ago, warrior9 said: Out of all of his year here, we failed to win consistently and aside from the one play off appearance he didn't see much of it, period. The year after he leaves, we have this fantastic season and the best start in 20 years. I wish he would have been able to be apart of something like this. I'm sure he's happy for the organization but I can't help but wonder if he's a little bitter that in his 13 years here, we couldn't put this type of team on the field with him. he could have stayed as he was still playing like he always had , but unfortunately he made that choice and has to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon_Bean Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 2 hours ago, steven50 said: I was just about to post this. He was a solid trooper for many years and doesn't get the love he deserves. I dont think I have seen him in any commercials or local radio stations since he left. I saw him on a Bills show with that new female Bills reporter, it was some internet show, looked super low budget, can't remember what the show was called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 15 hours ago, warrior9 said: Out of all of his year here, we failed to win consistently and aside from the one play off appearance he didn't see much of it, period. The year after he leaves, we have this fantastic season and the best start in 20 years. I wish he would have been able to be apart of something like this. I'm sure he's happy for the organization but I can't help but wonder if he's a little bitter that in his 13 years here, we couldn't put this type of team on the field with him. I appreciate what you said and everything but the bitter part I agree. He is such a class act, and religious guy, he probably has praying all season for us to have this kind of season. Bitterness in my opinion is not in his DNA. Good call on this thread. I know he is probably the most beloved and popular player since the Kelly days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 he had a great career. he was part of the team that broke the drought. he was a part of the community. he made millions. he loved football and buffalo. feeling a little bad because he isn't/wont be part of this young bills team who will make a mark of their own or that he would be bitter because of it is well, a little ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior9 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: he had a great career. he was part of the team that broke the drought. he was a part of the community. he made millions. he loved football and buffalo. feeling a little bad because he isn't/wont be part of this young bills team who will make a mark of their own or that he would be bitter because of it is well, a little ridiculous. Sorry for being ridiculous in hoping that we won more like this when Kyle was here =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: I wouldn’t be surprised if he and McDermott have each other on speed dial should we need some depth/injury coverage in the DL for the postseason. He still looks like he’s ready to play tomorrow if the call came in. if we needed him desperately, he answers that call 100% of the time. Sorry but that's a no go. It's too late in the season and he has already submitted his retirement paperwork. He would have to refile un-retirement paperwork to be able to sign again with anyone. Not that he would sign with anyone but the Bills most likely....if he did for some reason un-retire. 15 hours ago, White Linen said: Damn Kyle, I wish you could have been a part of our best start in 20 years and a good season? I can't get there. I'd feel bad for Kyle if we win the super bowl - I'd obviously wish he could be part of that. Don't feel to badly for him. The Pegula's, Bean, and McDermott know exactly how important Kyle has been in building this team to what it currently is and they know how valuable he can and will be as a spokes-person for the community to set an example of how important this team is to the community. Rest assured, when the day comes, after our SB win, he will get the credit due and the ring. 14 hours ago, Shaw66 said: Kyle is still in touch with the team. I'm sure they'll include him appropriately as the team has success. He was an important foundation for what McBeane are building, and they won't forget. This exactly!! 10 hours ago, buffalobillswin said: I always felt that way for Aaron Schobel and Takeo Spikes. Both were class acts and never got to play in a playoff game. I 100% agree with you on Aaron Schobel. I always though he got shafted. Was an elite DE on some really crappy Bills teams. Got tired of putting in 110% and watching the rest of the team around him suck the big one, which is why he retired early. Have to disagree with you on Spikes though. He didn't play here long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisker A Tasker Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 He was a good Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I think he's happy sitting on his millions, knowing that he had a huge part in setting up the organization for the success it is having now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, warrior9 said: Sorry for being ridiculous in hoping that we won more like this when Kyle was here =( Don't be sorry. I just thought it was ridiculous to think that he would be bitter. I never saw him as the type of man that would be bitter about something like that especially after the career he had here in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Brandon_Bean said: I saw him on a Bills show with that new female Bills reporter, it was some internet show, looked super low budget, can't remember what the show was called. I believe it's the official Bills dot com postgame and halftime show that's streamed on the website, Facebook, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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