njbuff Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Was there ever a doubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 This is great, the Bills are now favored by 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Is there a building named after you? The school is named after my grandfather, son. Dr. Bill H. Upstairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, Philo said: I think they select a rookie from each team that doesn't necessarily have to be a QB. I believe this year was Singletary for the Bills. EDIT: It was Singletary Long thumb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, jimmy10 said: The school is named after my grandfather, son. Dr. Bill H. Upstairs. I love that it’s so literal. Like a forklift that lifts forks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: This is probably smart on McD's part. Why give out more info than you need to, before you need to? Would Belichick not do the same? Yep. I'd do the same thing. 58 minutes ago, klos63 said: Does the team clear players from protocol or do the doctors? Aren't the doctors independent from the team? I think both. Stage 5 the team doctors and independent ones have to clear him. So the independent doctor could clear him and then the team could choose to keep him in the protocol, I believe. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: Old McBeane, playing that 4D like Rachmaninov on a grand piano ??? Hopefully Allen doesn't run leading with his head again or McBeane may have their Shine moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Boom!!! Of course he's playing. Who's the guy who said McDermott would keep him on the bench for his confidence 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I can think of a few ppl who'll be disappointed by this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MJS said: Yep. I'd do the same thing. I think both. Stage 5 the team doctors and independent ones have to clear him. So the independent doctor could clear him and then the team could choose to keep him in the protocol, I believe. team dr has to clear him first. Once that occurs the independent neurologist has to clear the player. https://www.playsmartplaysafe.com/newsroom/videos/nfl-head-neck-spine-committees-concussion-protocol-overview/ Edited October 5, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, MJS said: This confirms suspicions that the Bills have been keeping guys in the protocol till the last minute. All 3 guys released from the protocol at the same time? They all woke up this morning and passed their tests? Likely all three were ready days ago, especially Josh. Pretty Belickick-like. Hmmmm. Delicious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, nucci said: AssMan "Million to one shot Doc, million to one". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, jimmy10 said: I went to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College too! Dr. Nick! Edited October 5, 2019 by BuffaloMatt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 With our D Allen needs to settle down and be more of a game manager. He will make the occasional great throw or scramble, but if he just keeps his baseline at the game manager level, this team could win a playoff game, not just get there. Fingers crossed Josh has FINALLY learned to reign it in. I'm psyched for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Good or bad I want Allen to play. So let’s do this. I do think Barkley would’ve managed the offense just fine. And he seems to have better touch on “drop in the bucket” type throws than Allen at this point in their careers. But Josh isn’t going to develop his game sitting on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlonce Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Josh was ready to come back into the game against the Pats, he was fine. The NFL required the protocol due to the nature of the hit. I took some grief over my statements on Sunday but what was told to me was true. The person who told me would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, mykidsdad said: With our D Allen needs to settle down and be more of a game manager. He will make the occasional great throw or scramble, but if he just keeps his baseline at the game manager level, this team could win a playoff game, not just get there. Fingers crossed Josh has FINALLY learned to reign it in. I'm psyched for Sunday. He doesn't need to be a 'game manager' , whatever that is, he just needs to protect the ball better and make quicker, sound decisions. He's a dynamic player, I want to see him make big plays, he just needs to get better at it. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, dlonce said: Josh was ready to come back into the game against the Pats, he was fine. The NFL required the protocol due to the nature of the hit. I took some grief over my statements on Sunday but what was told to me was true. The person who told me would know. And yet no word of a fine for the hit. Methinks the NFL is a bit inconsistent. "If you get hit in the head, we're going to make you sit so we make sure you're ok. But we're still going to allow players to hit you in the head." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, mykidsdad said: With our D Allen needs to settle down and be more of a game manager. He will make the occasional great throw or scramble, but if he just keeps his baseline at the game manager level, this team could win a playoff game, not just get there. Fingers crossed Josh has FINALLY learned to reign it in. I'm psyched for Sunday. totally agree. Would love to see Allen use his mobility the same way Wilson uses it. Dance around the pocket, only sneak when needed, and slide. Needs to work on the accuracy to reach a Wilson level, but he's got the mobility, just the pocket movement/presence, which I think will come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Hand it off for a few series and see what is really going on in his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I know he is cleared. But we're talking brain injury here, not a broken finger or bone. IMO it would make sense to make him active as the #2 QB, With the bye week and QBs not getting hit in practice, that would be 3 full weeks of recovery if Barkley finishes the game. Think long term here, not just this week! DiMarco, as a fullback, will also be out there after a week? Can you really recover that fast from a concussion? As for Allen, he was out! The athletic commissions in MMA and boxing are way more protective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Jerome007 said: I know he is cleared. But we're talking brain injury here, not a broken finger or bone. IMO it would make sense to make him active as the #2 QB, With the bye week and QBs not getting hit in practice, that would be 3 full weeks of recovery if Barkley finishes the game. Think long term here, not just this week! DiMarco, as a fullback, will also be out there after a week? Can you really recover that fast from a concussion? As for Allen, he was out! The athletic commissions in MMA and boxing are way more protective. At least this guy's on the up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: Cole Beasley can't catch with his feet, write that down somewhere Why not? Milano can catch with his feet! ? https://www.buffalobills.com/video/can-t-miss-play-matt-milano-makes-incredible-int-on-tipped-pass Edited October 5, 2019 by cd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheRockpile Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: As for Allen, he was out! Assuming facts not in evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, RememberTheRockpile said: Assuming facts not in evidence. Well you got a point. I personally didn't think he was out as he was actually adjusting and clutching the ball on the way down. You can actually expect a KOed guy to clench the ball hard even out, but not "make a football move'". The commentators said he was out though, but they weren't on the field more than us. And really, this should be easy to know one or way the other with all the witnesses there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 39 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: I know he is cleared. But we're talking brain injury here, not a broken finger or bone. IMO it would make sense to make him active as the #2 QB, With the bye week and QBs not getting hit in practice, that would be 3 full weeks of recovery if Barkley finishes the game. Think long term here, not just this week! DiMarco, as a fullback, will also be out there after a week? Can you really recover that fast from a concussion? As for Allen, he was out! The athletic commissions in MMA and boxing are way more protective. There is no confirmation that Allen or any of the 3 actually had a concussion. You can be placed in the protocol without being diagnosed. There aren’t any nfl teams shelving players after they are cleared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheRockpile Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Well you got a point. I personally didn't think he was out as he was actually adjusting and clutching the ball on the way down. You can actually expect a KOed guy to clench the ball hard even out, but not "make a football move'". The commentators said he was out though, but they weren't on the field more than us. And really, this should be easy to know one or way the other with all the witnesses there! Dan Fouts said "he may be out cold". Nothing definitive. I agree, I don't think he was out either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, RememberTheRockpile said: Dan Fouts said "he may be out cold". Nothing definitive. I agree, I don't think he was out either. I think the head hitting the turf may have been the worst of it. The helmet to helmet was in the facemask area. Allen's helmet hit the turf on the side/rear. But as far as being "out cold", Josh was reaching his arms for a lift from teammates pretty soon after the play, but (I assume) the trainers shut that down and made him stay on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Yes!!! Allen offers so much more with his elusiveness, just needs to take what the defense gives him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Watching this guy play against another good defense is going to give me a headache of my own 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Huge News!! Let’s go Buffalo!! This game is big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Jerome007 said: I know he is cleared. But we're talking brain injury here, not a broken finger or bone. IMO it would make sense to make him active as the #2 QB, With the bye week and QBs not getting hit in practice, that would be 3 full weeks of recovery if Barkley finishes the game. Think long term here, not just this week! DiMarco, as a fullback, will also be out there after a week? Can you really recover that fast from a concussion? As for Allen, he was out! The athletic commissions in MMA and boxing are way more protective. This should be required reading: 28 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: There is no confirmation that Allen or any of the 3 actually had a concussion. You can be placed in the protocol without being diagnosed. There aren’t any nfl teams shelving players after they are cleared. Read this, another excellent informative post . DrPJax discusses whether or not he was concussed : 8 minutes ago, krf139 said: Watching this guy play against another good defense is going to give me a headache of my own You can choose not to watch it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberTheRockpile Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: I think the head hitting the turf may have been the worst of it. The helmet to helmet was in the facemask area. Allen's helmet hit the turf on the side/rear. But as far as being "out cold", Josh was reaching his arms for a lift from teammates pretty soon after the play, but (I assume) the trainers shut that down and made him stay on the ground. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 ....so predict Daboll's game plan if Josh is starting...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, klos63 said: He doesn't need to be a 'game manager' , whatever that is, he just needs to protect the ball better and make quicker, sound decisions. He's a dynamic player, I want to see him make big plays, he just needs to get better at it. What I mean is what you're saying. Like a good point guard in the old days of basketball. Josh needs to enable the players around him to make plays, and once in a while, when the shot is there, he takes it. Because we have such an exceptional defense, Josh doesn't have to be the hero on this team. That's what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Good news is Josh is known to get better after an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Godspeed Josh, hope you come out of this game without second impact syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Jerome007 said: 1 hour ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: Yes!!! Allen offers so much more with his elusiveness, just needs to take what the defense gives him. what if the defense gives him 1 yd passes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 45 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....so predict Daboll's game plan if Josh is starting...... Defenses don't seem to have a problem with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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