GunnerBill Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: Still has to get it to the line of scrimmage, which he didn’t. Which is partly because he tries so hard to extend everything, which means he is normally a long way behind the sticks by the time he bails on a play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I'd give him a B I didnt like the careless fumble, the pick backpedaling, the across his body completion to Sweeney or the near pick in the deep post with the safety waiting on the deep shot to Foster. I did like his poise on the final drive. The numerous should be sacks he turned into positive yardage. Good game for the young man. Still seeing some growth week to week and his demeanor seems even keeled. Still so so early in his career 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Which is partly because he tries so hard to extend everything, which means he is normally a long way behind the sticks by the time he bails on a play. Yup. I hate to say it but the whole, "falling backwards, stiff-arm throw" seems to be a signature play of Allen. Seen it too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, Wayne Cubed said: Yup. I hate to say it but the whole, "falling backwards, stiff-arm throw" seems to be a signature play of Allen. Seen it too many times. I think there was one like that in the first quarter that was complete to Brown for a first down. He was going backward toward the sideline and threw it all arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: I think there was one like that in the first quarter that was complete to Brown for a first down. He was going backward toward the sideline and threw it all arm. Nooooo. He's running laterally on that throw. Almost rolling out. This is the running/falling backwards throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, Wayne Cubed said: Nooooo. He's running laterally on that throw. Almost rolling out. This is the running/falling backwards throw. You may be right. My recollection was he was falling backwards. I could be wrong and will have to watch the replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Week 1 B- Week 2 B+ Week 3 B- been very consistent honestly. Overall more pressure then I liked today (party josh holding the ball). Off the pressure I think teams are keying on his roll outs to his right. He has the two intentional groundings and pick that way (also several great plays too). Still lot of miscues from the offense that are leaving points on the board. I think they get it sorted (probably not by next week) and that will be a great day. Biggest worry still has to be how this offense handles blitzes from the defense. Still having some struggles. Either way great win and another 4 quarter drive from Allen to take the lead (more than TT ever had I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 We just won NFL Redzone's "Drive of the day" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: You may be right. My recollection was he was falling backwards. I could be wrong and will have to watch the replay. I know which one you mean. Allen is money rolling out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Josh sucked today. I’m sorry. He looked like Tyree Allen. In his first ever start, Daniel Jones looks better. But it’s one game and he will improve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, zow2 said: Josh sucked today. I’m sorry. He looked like Tyree Allen. In his first ever start, Daniel Jones looks better. But it’s one game and he will improve https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/01/man-charged-in-triple-shooting-at-maple-heights-bar-shot-while-vomiting-in-cleveland.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said: The come from behind win makes it a B. This. Those low grades would have been right if they had lost 17-14. But they didn't. He drove them down the field for the winning TD when he was down to the last possession. Despite having pressure all day he threw a bunch of good balls and had one egregious mistake. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, KD in CA said: This. Those low grades would have been right if they had lost 17-14. But they didn't. He drove them down the field for the winning TD when he was down to the last possession. Despite having pressure all day he threw a bunch of good balls and had one egregious mistake. This seems so obvious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I think that's fair, but Cincinnati's defense is underrated. They haven't played well this year up to today, but they finally got it going. I expect to see more good games from them. The Bengals aren't great, but they aren't all bad either. It was another ugly win. I'll take that any day we line up to play. A couple letdowns by the D, but overall, they played another solid game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I don't mind what I consider to be the harder grades on Josh's performance. It's what is needed to make him the best that he can be. And I think Josh is harder on himself than any of you. That's a good thing and is what makes him perfect for this team. The future is bright. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, KD in CA said: This. Those low grades would have been right if they had lost 17-14. But they didn't. He drove them down the field for the winning TD when he was down to the last possession. Despite having pressure all day he threw a bunch of good balls and had one egregious mistake. I like the kid but he had 4 pretty obvious mistakes. The pick was the one that cost him. Throwing the ball back across his body to Sweeney he got away with, throwing to Knox (I think) near the goal line into double coverage while being chased was another mistake, and not getting down earlier in the fumble. He got away with the last 3. He’s making excellent progress and his 4th quarter heroics are great, he just has the smarter sometimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, KD in CA said: This. Those low grades would have been right if they had lost 17-14. But they didn't. He drove them down the field for the winning TD when he was down to the last possession. Despite having pressure all day he threw a bunch of good balls and had one egregious mistake. If the O line doesn't take that next step vs. a solid pass rush this team might not make the playoffs. In my opinion, that's the most critical factor to address on offense. You don't want Josh scrambling, find him another second or two of protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 The oline was a turnstile today... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Just now, JaCrispy said: The oline was a turnstile today... All the bad Josh plays start with a jailbreak upfront. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: But the QB draw was in the first half... this was the second half. Had nothing to do with it. Take the sack. Throw the intentional grounding. I don’t care which, DON’T attempt hero ball up 14-0. Exactly, love the kid, but he needs to get a lot smarter on those situations. Eat the ball and live to fight another fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 It was a great test of character. He made some bad decisions that put the Bengals back in the game. He then drove down the field and put us ahead. This gives me more confidence than I've had in any QB since Flutie. We have something here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: Report cards are always letters, bud. I never got a 3 in math I didn't like a few plays, but overall, he did enough to win. That's all that really matters...for today anyways. Those issues need to be corrected if we're ever going to compete with the big boys. You've never heard of a 4.0 average? Seriously? Junior high through senior high I ONLY got number grades. 99, 95, 90 whatever. I thought Josh looked otherworldly at times and bone headed at others. But I'll take the outcome and the entire improving package. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 He had three inexcusable plays. The intentional grounding in the first half, the fumble that we got lucky on and the INT. He was great in the first half and poor in the second but made enough plays to win it for us on the last drive. He’ll get better. Just glad it didn’t cost us today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, RyanC883 said: the intentional grounding was also awful. Use the arm strength and get it past the line of scrimmage. He also missed Zay for a TD. So he was all over the place today. C sounds about right. It was awful but arm strength or not. he was back peddling with a guy on top of him throwing into heavy wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 40 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: It was a great test of character. He made some bad decisions that put the Bengals back in the game. He then drove down the field and put us ahead. This gives me more confidence than I've had in any QB since Flutie. We have something here. Exactly, without that final drive it’s the same team we’ve been watching for years. Most NFL games are close, and not much separates good teams from bad teams. Winning these type of games is what separates teams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 My 3 thoughts: 1) he needed to get the ball out of his hands sooner... many many times 2) the O-line seemed pretty weak most of the game 3) for a guy that has a cannon of an arm, I’d love to see a few more shots waaaay downfield! Like a 70 yards in the air throw. We have not completed one bomb this year. Hope they practice more of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I just came here to say that Josh Allen has not yet played in 16 games... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 B-. A few really bad decisions, but he had the game-winning drive late in the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 line injuries and the bengals started getting pressure constantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: My 3 thoughts: 1) he needed to get the ball out of his hands sooner... many many times 2) the O-line seemed pretty weak most of the game 3) for a guy that has a cannon of an arm, I’d love to see a few more shots waaaay downfield! Like a 70 yards in the air throw. We have not completed one bomb this year. Hope they practice more of this. 1) and 3) conflict though, right? Those deeper plays take time to develop. He seldom has that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: My 3 thoughts: 1) he needed to get the ball out of his hands sooner... many many times 2) the O-line seemed pretty weak most of the game 3) for a guy that has a cannon of an arm, I’d love to see a few more shots waaaay downfield! Like a 70 yards in the air throw. We have not completed one bomb this year. Hope they practice more of this. I think if he improves on 1 then 2 looks a whole lot less worrisome. Even on some of his roll outs they had a pretty good pocket set up that collapsed after he left. His downfield passes aren't very accurate, so I think the intermediate stuff is great for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I think if he improves on 1 then 2 looks a whole lot less worrisome. Even on some of his roll outs they had a pretty good pocket set up that collapsed after he left. His downfield passes aren't very accurate, so I think the intermediate stuff is great for now. Josh, and the offensive line, are works in progress. Sometimes Josh if forced to leave the pocket far too early. Other times Josh holds on to the ball for too long. Sometimes both of those things (and other issues) happen at the same time. The improvement each has made from last year is fairly impressive----and is continuing to improve week after week, IMO. It hasn't been, and won't be, a straight line improvement. There have been and will be some head shaking bad plays/decisions. But so far, they've managed to win three straight games (two on the road) while working out the kinks. Hard not to be a little happy and optimistic about the way things are playing out. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 C+/B- one of those two. Josh is lucky he was able to bail himself out of some really bad decisions he made in the 3rd quarter. JA hasn't started, or even played in, 16 games yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The Bills have beaten 3 teams with a combined record of 1-8 with a lot of credit to the defense. Let’s not get break out the champagne just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 He looked more like rookie Allen today than the last two games, but he still made it work. He’s going to take time to develop as we knew, but there’s been visible improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, rayray808 said: Today we got to see "streaky Josh" and it is my biggest fear about him. I am okay however if it is a few bad plays during a quarter, followed by a game winning drive. I just donʻt want his "lows" to last entire games. I guess you don't know of Jimbo's "streaky" games in which he slung the ball around and had to clean up or took a loss. A gunslinger of Josh's abilities is bound to take chances, and it comes with the territory. I present to you the ultimate crazy, where the team picks up even a veteran QB like Jimbo, from 1990: Edited September 23, 2019 by EasternOHBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock'em Sock'em Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) He was pretty good in the first half. If Gore doesn't score the winning TD and the Bills lose 17-14, would Josh Allen's grade change? How much should Allen's grade change because the team was able to punch the ball in from the one after a great 4th quarter drive? Considering the Bills got the win, C+. Still lots of room to improve. Arrow seems to be pointing up with him. Edited September 23, 2019 by Rock'em Sock'em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 This will change several more times before the dust settles, but based on performances RIGHT NOW (not future projections) the 2018 draft ranking would likely go: 1. Lamar Jackson 2. Baker Mayfield/Josh Allen (tie) 3. Sam Darnold 4. Josh Rosen Or maybe even a Darnold-Rosen tie ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Lurker said: Josh first half: B Josh third quarter: D Josh fouth quarter: A- Weighted GPA of 2.65 or C+. Yeah, that seems about right... Consistency has always been, and remains, his bugaboo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 21 minutes ago, iinii said: The Bills have beaten 3 teams with a combined record of 1-8 with a lot of credit to the defense. Let’s not get break out the champagne just yet. We can’t control who we play. Just continue to beat whoever we play. We’re on to New England tomorrow. Enjoy being 3-0 tonight ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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