H2o Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I don't think he's done, but I don't think he's just playing football anymore. It almost seems like he's thinking too much. He's the type that you have to just turn loose and let him do what he does. The older he gets and the more the injuries pile up, the more it takes it's toll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse Nuts Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I was ambivalent about Cam until I saw that video of him talking trash to our guys at that practice thing. What a moron! Why in the world would you place so much importance on a scrimmage? Who cares? What are they handing out trophies for scrimmages now? But he was so adamant about making sure our guys knew they won that drive or whatever. Totally childish. He really showed me how dumb he is there. Really, really stupid. I hope the best for all these athletes but I couldn't give a rodent's you-know-what about Cam now. He's a child! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 He got his money. Regardless of performance thusfar, I would not predict more effort, nor improvement from Sham Newton. And I got him in two FF leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Nester said: Yup. Panthers and fins should have a “Tank-off” Trade us Luke after the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Buh bye Cameron. Time to give it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: ‘Is Cam Newton Done(?)’ Only his milliner (hatter) knows for sure. ...and "hats off" to your post bro........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: That's lazy comparison Physically they are similar, but between the ears they are nothing alike And if you have the brain, work ethic and talent as a QB you will make it. When Drew Bledsoe was the#1 pick everybody said that have never seen someone spin a football like him, it was different.. Josh Allen has that kind of different arm with a work ethic and desire for greatness And a lot more mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: And a lot more mobility. Of course he does. He has Steve McNair's athletic ability with an arm like Bledsoe Rare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) During preseason when he was talking trash to Captain and Ed, he frankly looked a good deal skinnier than I remembered him being, maybe his fitness routine was lacking during his recovery time, does he take coaching and fitness advice well or does he ignore that sort of input? Or maybe he is done, like “put a fork in it” done.... ?? Hope he saved some money during his career... Edited September 13, 2019 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 All I know is that Cam is 0-8 in his last 8 starts. Not good! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Never thought Newton was all that good to begin with. He hasn't and might never recover from his Super Bowl embarrassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Nick the Greek said: Took the Panthers to a Super Bowl.. that’s a pretty legit accomplishment for any QB I’d say. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have Super Bowl rings. If you are a QB that limits mistakes on a team with a great defense, you could win it all. It doesn't necessarily reflect the QB's career abilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have Super Bowl rings. If you are a QB that limits mistakes on a team with a great defense, you could win it all. It doesn't necessarily reflect the QB's career abilities. I'm pretty sure that the year they went to the super bowl Cam was league MVP and accounted for 45 TDs and over 4100 yards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, stosh64 said: This was his PC after yesterdays game. He's gotten more and more strange over the last couple of years. Seems to be more worried about his fashion than football as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Never thought much of him as a QB. When they went to Superbowl and the ball fumbled, he stood there and watched instead of diving in and making a play for the ball. Great athlete but doesn't seem to care or be competitive. Carolina should move on, he is not franchise material. Maybe a back up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Can you imagine coming into your boss’s office after blowing a meeting looking like that? Come on people! This is just plain dumb. He was honoring Queen Elizabeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, H2o said: He's gotten more and more strange over the last couple of years. Seems to be more worried about his fashion than football as well. Nice babushka there cam. Gonna go harvest wheat for the motherland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Zaso Art Designs said: no 6 hours ago, BoccesOnTransit said: yes 6 hours ago, ColdFront_USAF said: Maybe Welp....I think we got this covered. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 52 minutes ago, DallasBillsFan1 said: Never thought much of him as a QB. When they went to Superbowl and the ball fumbled, he stood there and watched instead of diving in and making a play for the ball. Great athlete but doesn't seem to care or be competitive. Carolina should move on, he is not franchise material. Maybe a back up? Well he has been there QB for 9 years so he's definitely been their Franchise QB All players go down hill at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 He's never been very good to begin with. 3 winning seasons in 8 years and this one looks like another stinker too. He's always been capable of huge games, but he's often had suspect decision making and an unreal ability to throw a terrible ball at the worst possible times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I remember the first couple games of his career......thought he was going to be unstoppable. Guess I was wrong about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I will state he will never be near his 2013 form again- but I would bet he could be effective again if he ever gets healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 They should upgrade and sign Kap! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloButt Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Yes, No, Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 hours ago, H2o said: He's gotten more and more strange over the last couple of years. Seems to be more worried about his fashion than football as well. Yeah, he needs to worry more about making a statement on the field instead of behind the podium with his ridiculous outfits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Maybe, he looks shot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Don Otreply said: During preseason when he was talking trash to Captain and Ed, he frankly looked a good deal skinnier than I remembered him being, maybe his fitness routine was lacking during his recovery time, does he take coaching and fitness advice well or does he ignore that sort of input? Or maybe he is done, like “put a fork in it” done.... ?? Hope he saved some money during his career... Cam said he wanted to lose weight and that's why he went on a Vegan diet this offseason and lose 10 pounds to 235. He may have lost muscle as it's more difficult to get protein. The first step he should take to get right is order a 40 ounce Ribeye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Rivera might pull the plug soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 4 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm pretty sure that the year they went to the super bowl Cam was league MVP and accounted for 45 TDs and over 4100 yards. So what, a lot of other QBs had better years statistically that year but their teams didn't go 15-1 and make it to the SB like Newtons did. That said Newton did have a pretty good year that year but all his other year are mediocre at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Physically, no he should still be good. Mentally, yes he's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 4 hours ago, H2o said: He's gotten more and more strange over the last couple of years. Seems to be more worried about his fashion than football as well. Yeah i was thinking the same. That is one strange dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 I'm not a fan of Cam the person but I'm a fan of him on the field. He is getting over multiple surgeries, this past one was only months ago so it may take him awhile to get that back. I think people are undervaluing his passing game a bit, he's a career 60 % in completion percentage. I think the turnovers are more lack of talent than Cam being done. They've had Benjamin, Funchess and Ginn as their starting WR for awhile and now they finally look like they have some weapons in Samuel, Moore and Olsen but Cam will need some time to get his arm back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 He’s always been a terrible, I mean terrible, passer. He couldn’t run forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdFront_USAF Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 8 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Welp....I think we got this covered. The great part is now we can't be wrong. In all seriousness though I hope he pulls out of this. Maybe he's still battling shoulder injuries or something else is off, or maybe he really has hit his limit. I'm not the biggest fan of Cam out there, but I can't deny he's a really fun quarterback to watch when he's on his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 I have a simple question. Is he known to be a grinder? Because his public persona suggests he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 He’s not “done” but he’s certainly on the downslope. Sucks because he was an exciting guy to watch for a while. He also won a MVP for everyone saying he always sucked. 10 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: I have a simple question. Is he known to be a grinder? Because his public persona suggests he's not. What does that even mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 15 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: It’s from last nights post game interview. Perhaps, if he put as much energy into football as he does in his attire, he wouldn’t suck as a player. Just a guess.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: He’s not “done” but he’s certainly on the downslope. Sucks because he was an exciting guy to watch for a while. He also won a MVP for everyone saying he always sucked. What does that even mean I mean he looks and acts like he's caught up in his own hype, not real, and would rather be shopping for hats or scarfs than breaking down defenses. So I was curious if anyone has come across articles discussing whether or not he's a "first in, last out" kind of leader. Edited September 14, 2019 by BillnutinHouston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 I can only imagine the media firestorm if Josh Allen had played like Cam Newton did the other night. Veterans get a lot of benefit of doubt. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 8 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I'm not a fan of Cam the person but I'm a fan of him on the field. He is getting over multiple surgeries, this past one was only months ago so it may take him awhile to get that back. I think people are undervaluing his passing game a bit, he's a career 60 % in completion percentage. I think the turnovers are more lack of talent than Cam being done. They've had Benjamin, Funchess and Ginn as their starting WR for awhile and now they finally look like they have some weapons in Samuel, Moore and Olsen but Cam will need some time to get his arm back. Not really, of his 8 full seasons as a passer 1 year over 3900 yards passing 1 year over 25 TD passes 5 years under 60% comp 7 years of 12 int or more 3 winning seasons out of 8 6 out of 8 year QB rating below 89 1 year averaging more than 243 pass yards per game Those are extremely pedestrian numbers and don't in any way suggest he is an elite passer, he's been good enough but at some point tough decisions will have to be made about him, he doesn't get to write his own ending in Carolina or probably anywhere. Yes he got to a SB and was MVP but that year other QBs had better passing stats that year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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