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Is Cam Newton Done

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After 2015 ,  Cam has had 2 bad seasons and 1 "ok"  season.   Injury  and loss of key players (Josh Norman cough cough) may be cited as reasons for  the sub par succeeding seasons.   But after last night's loss in which Cam often missed easy throws to open receivers and couldn't  gain positive yardage on carries, one wonders if Cam has any way to adjust to a game after his physical abilities may have gone into a steep decline.  More traditional pocket QBs can compensate as they age / decline because they know how to read a defense and can use their remaining physical abilities to their fullest.

 

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I have never liked Cam to begin with.... so I question if he ever started.

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His running ability has diminished tremendously.  He was never a great passer, but his running ability  helped his passing game.  His arm is still strong but decision making and accuracy  are weak.  He is much easier to defend against now.   He can still be a starting QB in the NFL but his days of being an elite or even an average NFL QB are gone.

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Loved watching Cam, so I hope he can recover. But he looked absolutely awful - not running on the 4th and 1/2 and the 2 yard line was painful to watch. And not to read much into it, but is he giving us a clue by dressing like he's on the way to a Boca Raton retirement home 2 weeks in a row?

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5 minutes ago, aceman_16 said:

I have never liked Cam to begin with.... so I question if he ever started.

Took the Panthers to a Super Bowl.. that’s a pretty legit accomplishment for any QB I’d say. 

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Certainly looks like it right now but I don’t care either way.  Don’t really give two farts about other teams other except Buffalo.  

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Unfortunately, I think he is.  And it's too bad.  I've always been a Cam fan.

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Sadly, the most optimistic reviews of Allen is that Cam Newton would be his ceiling. Let's hope Josh can raise that bar. 

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His theatrics, such as those strange hats, make me wonder if his head is in the game 24x7 and if he sees himself more as an entertainer than a professional QB committed to bringing his best every Sunday.  My advice, drop all the nonsense and get to work or give it up. 

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Hard to tell.   Statistically, from a passing stand point he has always been average.  He played out of his mind in 2015.   If he had a more vanilla personality he may have never been looked at as elite.   Outside of 2015, he has basically had a little better career than someone like Joe Flacco.   Is it over, or did it really ever really start outside of one great season and a lot of commercialism? 

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6 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

His running ability has diminished tremendously.  He was never a great passer, but his running ability  helped his passing game.  His arm is still strong but decision making and accuracy  are weak.  He is much easier to defend against now.   He can still be a starting QB in the NFL but his days of being an elite or even an average NFL QB are gone.

 

Did you watch the game last night? His passes lacked zip

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11 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

After 2015 ,  Cam has had 2 bad seasons and 1 "ok"  season.   Injury  and loss of key players (Josh Norman cough cough) may be cited as reasons for  the sub par succeeding seasons.   But after last night's loss in which Cam often missed easy throws to open receivers and couldn't  gain positive yardage on carries, one wonders if Cam has any way to adjust to a game after his physical abilities may have gone into a steep decline.  More traditional pocket QBs can compensate as they age / decline because they know how to read a defense and can use their remaining physical abilities to their fullest.

 

I agree.  I turned it off sometime in the third quarter.  

 

He looks slow running.   Lumbering.

 

His passing delivery looks really slow.  He looks like an offensive lineman trying to connect on 15-yard out-patterns, instead of the nimble little guys playing QB now.   Allen's release is MUCH quicker. 

 

Plus, I've never liked his attitude, all smiles when things are going well, pouting and whining when they aren't.   I don't think he's a true leader.  And no one has ever praised his field general skills.   You don't hear announcers say that he's mastered the thinking game, that he outsmarts defenses regularly.   

 

I was never really impressed with him anyway, but last night he looked like he didn't deserve to be out there. 

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5 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

Did you watch the game last night? His passes lacked zip

 

You are correct, i should have said he still has a strong arm but has lost some strength.  I think his lower body is shot, his legs, that is why he isn't running as much and his passes aren't  what they used  and with his decision making and accuracy it looks pretty bad to me be still has an NFL arm.

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He’s always been a pretty average thrower of the ball. I think what we’ve been watching is him trying to transform his game some so he doesn’t run as much. The real elephant in the room is their play calling, they never found any kind of rhythm and their coordinator called a bad game 

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He certainly looked bad last night. He also seems skinnier than I remember.

Just now, RoyBatty is alive said:

 

You are correct, i should have said he still has a strong arm but has lost some strength.  I think his lower body is shot, his legs, that is why he isn't running as much and his passes aren't  what they used to be be still has an NFL arm.

I think he isn't running as much because he is no longer willing to put his body at risk.

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Probably, no. Still early, no need to write up an epitaph just yet on his career. But if I’m a Panthers fan, I am legit concerned nonetheless. 

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His hat game just keeps getting better.

 

I can't believe no one in that locker room ever said to Cam..."Dude. Stop it. You're Embarrassing us."

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