How many times do you guys think the refs screw us?

[Warcodered]

It really needs to be Sunday soon.

[Forward Progress]

I used to feel that we were getting screwed more than other teams because we are a small market team.  I don't believe that any more.

 

If I'm being objective, I feel that we haven't had as many bad calls against us in the last two years as we did before.  I think that well disciplined teams get the benefit of the doubt more than undisciplined teams. 

 

Here is an example of one against Jerry Hughes in 2014 who had a bad reputation for collecting unsportsmanlike 15-yard penalties:

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/10/16/6985297/jerry-hughes-penalty-bills-patriots-2014

Hughes is tapping a teammate on the  head after a great defensive stand and the referee assumes that Hughes is tapping the head of the opponent.  It was a terrible call, but I think this was a case of confirmation bias, where the referee saw what he expected to see because of Jerry Hughes' reputation at the time.

 

Under McDermott, I see more discipline from our players on the field and (without any data to support my opinion) I feel that we are getting screwed by bad calls less frequently.

 

[bopper2]

I would like to see an unbiased analysis of league wide controversial calls over the last 20-25 years, and see what percentage of the calls went in favor of the larger market team.

The ones that come to mind immediately seem to favor large over small.

Just curious.

[Bookie Man]

Refs calling touchy penalties is the worst part of the game. They do it in every game. The best games are where they let the players play. Less flags would put out a much better product. 

[CardinalScotts]

I just want them to call New England for holding when its holding. Pay attention to patriot games and the difference in penalties. I guess they never hold on offense or defense, never have and illegal shift or line up wrong those are they two biggies that every team has happen except them. Not just against Buffalo but everyone.....Also Pittsburgh offensive line holds like nobodies business ...okay lets have a good year

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 hour ago, LabattBlue said:

This crap starting even before one single snap?

...why not?.....

 

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said:

Infinity

And beyond...,

 

but hopefully less than we stew ourselves.

 

Go Bills!!!

[JoPar_v2]

League referees are an incompetent lot, generally speaking. No one team is getting screwed over intentionally. That said, the rule makers don’t make it easy on them.

[Dr. Who]

We're going to beat the Jets so bad it won't matter.

[Nester]

Get out of here with this garbage.

[Kemp]

Some fans of every team in every sport think refs screw THEIR team.

Reminds me of superstitious people.

[Victory Formation]

Just now, Kemp said:

Some fans of every team in every sport think refs screw THEIR team.

Reminds me of superstitious people.

I’m not superstitious, I walk under ladders and stuff all the time.

[BillsVet]

A pre-emptive getting screwed by the refs thread 3 days before the opener.

 

And I thought I'd seen everything on TBD.  

 

Wow.  

[row_33]

1 hour ago, LabattBlue said:

This crap starting even before one single snap?

 

they didn't grow up with a masculine influence of a dad or older brothers that would tell them to STFU!!!!!  about endless whining and complaining, best accompanied by a crumpled beer can hitting the little loser right in the forehead.

 

 

24 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

A pre-emptive getting screwed by the refs thread 3 days before the opener.

 

And I thought I'd seen everything on TBD.  

 

Wow.  

 

but more and more replay/review will solve all this....

 

[Dadonkadonk]

2 hours ago, ALLEN1QB said:

They throw a flag for block in the back every kuckoff

That's because the Bills players block in the back.  For all the emphasis McD places on ST's they hurt us more than they help.

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Chill said:

Now with sport gambling legal, this league is as corrupt as ever. Small market teams will always get shafted.  Patriots favoritism is the worse, most obvious. 

 

NFL is entertainment, not a sport. 

 

Go put on your scarf and watch some soccer then. 

 

I mean...wtf?

[LSHMEAB]

You know what? I wanna write this off. I really do. Because I can't stand whining about officials and almost universally view the everyone against Buffalo narrative as garbage. But there's probably a kernel of truth here. I don't believe the NFL wants to see a team so thoroughly regarded as the most uninteresting franchise in the league succeed. I really believe that. So the idea that there would be a TINY bit of communication between the league and the officials to maybe tilt a few calls against us isn't that far fetched. 

 

The ESPN/national media stuff. Yeah. It's absurd. They have no vendetta against the Bills. They see as irrelevant. The league taking steps to assist the more attractive teams? I could see it. Irregardless(not a word), I don't believe they'd go so far as to blatantly alter the outcome, so if the Bills are good enough, it won't matter.

[DC Tom]

1 hour ago, Kemp said:

Some fans of every team in every sport think refs screw THEIR team.

Reminds me of superstitious people.

 

Yeah, it's unusual to start a thread about it.  Usually we just accept that the refs are going to screw us more frequently and harder than our wives, and take the attitude of "That which is understood need not be discussed." 

[Chill]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Go put on your scarf and watch some soccer then. 

 

I mean...wtf?

Soccer? Please. No thanks. It’s time to see the light Weo. The league is corrupt and is growing more by the year. 

 

I still enjoy the entertainment, but this show is no longer about skill. 

 

 

 

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, Chill said:

Soccer? Please. No thanks. It’s time to see the light Weo. The league is corrupt and is growing more by the year. 

 

I still enjoy the entertainment, but this show is no longer about skill. 

 

 

 

 

Bye bye

[Another Fan]

I mean I can’t remember any Jets games over the years being especially suspicious in terms of the officiating.

 

The Jets get screwed whenever they play the Patriots as well.  

[Happy]

Not this week vs Jets.  If we were playing NE, fo' sho' we would get screwed

[Jauronimo]

I agree with OP.  We should just forfeit.

[Thurman#1]

Over 16 games, about as much as they screw everyone else.

 

Visiting teams get screwed at a slightly higher rate, so that might affect Week one.

Edited September 6, 2019 by Thurman#1

[Dr.Sack]

Better to establish the run. 

[Nextmanup]

7 hours ago, Bangarang said:

 

Every year it’s the same nonsense. People blame the refs because it’s easier than blaming our players and coaches. Bad calls happen to every team. To pretend like the league or officials are out to get us specifically is historically stupid.

You can write this in every thread at the forum and it won't change a thing in terms of people bitching about the refs or excuse making in general.

 

It's what Bills fans do because dealing with the reality is too difficult for many.

 

 

 

[JoPar_v2]

15 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

You can write this in every thread at the forum and it won't change a thing in terms of people bitching about the refs or excuse making in general.

 

It's what Bills fans do because dealing with the reality is too difficult for many.

 

 

 

Absolutely. It’s a little novel to see some chud make a preemptive thread about how the corrupt refs are gonna screw us Sunday because...NYC or something? ***** would be funny if there weren’t people out there that actually thought this.

[NewEra]

8 hours ago, Bangarang said:

 

Every year it’s the same nonsense. People blame the refs because it’s easier than blaming our players and coaches. Bad calls happen to every team. To pretend like the league or officials are out to get us specifically is historically stupid.

It’s easier?  Not really.

 

to pretend like businesses (and people) don’t make decisions based on making millions and millions of dollars on an everyday basis is historically stupid.  It happens in all aspects of life.  Sports too.  If you don’t think there’s any chance of that going on in the NFL, it’s an extremely naive way of thinking 

[Bangarang]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

It’s easier?  Not really.

 

to pretend like businesses (and people) don’t make decisions based on making millions and millions of dollars on an everyday basis is historically stupid.  It happens in all aspects of life.  Sports too.  If you don’t think there’s any chance of that going on in the NFL, it’s an extremely naive way of thinking 

 

So you agree with the OP that for the last 20 years the officials have favored our opponents and tried to screw us?

[BullBuchanan]

If tonight's game is any indication of the reffing for the rest of the year, I think we'll see all time highs in ticky-tack BS being called. I expect at least 2 of these pass interference reviews to ruin otherwise great games.

Edited September 6, 2019 by BullBuchanan

[Beane/Allen]

Did John Murphy create this thread? 

[Captain Caveman]

booooooo

[teef]

I just want to be part of what’s going on in here. 

[nucci]

Seriously?

[MILFHUNTER#518]

15 hours ago, Sunshower said:

Opening week. We got the small market Bills going up against the big market Jets. How many times do you guys think the refs screw us? We know it’s going to be a flag fest against the Bills, do you guys have any hope that this will be a fair game? 

Wow what a ray of sunshine right before just before opening day, just what we needed. 

 

You must be the life of the party!?

Edited September 6, 2019 by MILFHUNTER#518

[dgrochester55]

I don't think that the Bills will specifically get screwed over but I could see the refs throwing a ridiculous amount of penalties on both teams throughout the game.

 

20 penalties last night, that game was atrocious to watch.   I can only imagine being it worse with two younger less established teams like the Bills and Jets.   

Edited September 6, 2019 by dgrochester55

[Putin]

14 hours ago, njbuff said:

I am sure there will be some call that we will be flying off the handle on.

 

Here's a suggestion....................

 

Overcome it.

How much more as Bills fans can we overcome ?? 

I’m trying to step away from the ledge but it’s kind of hard to with these kind of threads 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

15 hours ago, Chill said:

Now with sport gambling legal, this league is as corrupt as ever. Small market teams will always get shafted.  Patriots favoritism is the worse, most obvious. 

 

NFL is entertainment, not a sport. 

So your saying they need to change the name of the NFL to the WWFL. 

[NewEra]

6 hours ago, Bangarang said:

 

So you agree with the OP that for the last 20 years the officials have favored our opponents and tried to screw us?

I don’t really have an opinion on that.  I can’t find evidence that proves they’ve tried to screw us, so it stands as theory.  

 

I know I have eyes that work.  I know my friends (who are niner fans and watch every Bills game with me) joke about how the refs are going to screw us each week.  They say that they’ve never seen a team get routine calls, called against them so frequently.  I’ve been watching games with them since 2000.

 

i do believe the amount of phantom penalties on the Bills is much higher than our opponents.  They rarely show the replays on the telecast because the penalties are so tricky tack or non existent,  but you can see for yourself on the all-22 and replays.  

 

Do you think every team get even treatment from the officials?

 

 

[billybob71]

42 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

I don't think that the Bills will specifically get screwed over but I could see the refs throwing a ridiculous amount of penalties on both teams throughout the game.

 

20 penalties last night, that game was atrocious to watch.   I can only imagine being it worse with two younger less established teams like the Bills and Jets.   

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