BigDingus Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Even though Shady looked to be past his prime, he was still a household name known around the country. With him being released, who is their a player left who's name, jersey, personality, etc. brings attention to the team by themselves alone? When McBeane took over, we had Sammy Watkins, LeSean McCoy, Marcell Dareus, and arguably Kyle Williams. We got rid of Watkins prior to the regular season starting, eventually picked up Kelvin Benjamin (who wasn't a "star" but was at least well known), then proceeded to trade or cut them, with Williams eventually retiring. Yes, I know we all know Jerry Hughes, he's great, but most people don't know a thing about him (not like he brings a lot of attention to himself either, which I'm fine with). Most NFL fans tend to at least know the starting QB for each team, so Allen may be at least generally known, but aside from him we really don't have any recognition anymore. At this point, I think the 1 year rental RB in Frank Gore is our biggest "star." Ed Oliver could be the bigger name, but I'm not so sure many people associate him with the Bills or even remember he's a part of this team. Every time I discuss the Bills with my NFL friends, they seem to have already forgotten all about him. Hell, I still hear far more about Nathan Peterman when discussing the Bills than anyone else by a LONG shot. With that being said, who's most likely to jump to that status & become the name people will bring up most often in relation to the Bills? If they had to name a handful of players, who would be those names? I'd say Devin Singletary, Ed Oliver (if he isn't already), Tremaine Edmunds and obvious Josh Allen if he can even just manage a solid year overall. Outside of that, we're pretty low on personality & national recognition, which I'm not saying is a "bad" thing, it just is what it is. The only bad thing is whether we're considered a desirable team for viewership potential. The lack of nationally televised games, or even games outside of the 1:00/12:00 CST time slot is heavily influenced by not only prior record, but by star power. Market matters, but if a team has a lot of personality & intrigue surrounding its players, it becomes a hot candidate for prime time games. ************************* TL;DR - Do we have any real "stars" left? Who do you think potential future stars could be? Do those of you who live outside of Buffalo know people or have friends who don't follow the team but are aware of big name players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Even though Shady looked to be past his prime, he was still a household name known around the country. With him being released, who is their a player left who's name, jersey, personality, etc. brings attention to the team by themselves alone? When McBeane took over, we had Sammy Watkins, LeSean McCoy, Marcell Dareus, and arguably Kyle Williams. We got rid of Watkins prior to the regular season starting, eventually picked up Kelvin Benjamin (who wasn't a "star" but was at least well known), then proceeded to trade or cut them, with Williams eventually retiring. Yes, I know we all know Jerry Hughes, he's great, but most people don't know a thing about him (not like he brings a lot of attention to himself either, which I'm fine with). Most NFL fans tend to at least know the starting QB for each team, so Allen may be at least generally known, but aside from him we really don't have any recognition anymore. At this point, I think the 1 year rental RB in Frank Gore is our biggest "star." Ed Oliver could be the bigger name, but I'm not so sure many people associate him with the Bills or even remember he's a part of this team. Every time I discuss the Bills with my NFL friends, they seem to have already forgotten all about him. Hell, I still hear far more about Nathan Peterman when discussing the Bills than anyone else by a LONG shot. With that being said, who's most likely to jump to that status & become the name people will bring up most often in relation to the Bills? If they had to name a handful of players, who would be those names? I'd say Devin Singletary, Ed Oliver (if he isn't already), Tremaine Edmunds and obvious Josh Allen if he can even just manage a solid year overall. Outside of that, we're pretty low on personality & national recognition, which I'm not saying is a "bad" thing, it just is what it is. The only bad thing is whether we're considered a desirable team for viewership potential. The lack of nationally televised games, or even games outside of the 1:00/12:00 CST time slot is heavily influenced by not only prior record, but by star power. Market matters, but if a team has a lot of personality & intrigue surrounding its players, it becomes a hot candidate for prime time games. ************************* TL;DR - Do we have any real "stars" left? Who do you think potential future stars could be? Do those of you who live outside of Buffalo know people or have friends who don't follow the team but are aware of big name players? Don’t know don’t care. I care about team results. 15 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 We have maybe 2 or 3 on defense but unfortunately nothing on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 He's not exactly a big name but White is the only one I have seen on any top 100 lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Well, they do have Lotulelei and he is powerful... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Tre White would be the closest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 The only name that matters is Allen. Let’s hope he progresses. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Doomed. Anyway. 9 of 10 households probably have no idea where Sammy Watkins (already on his 3rd team) first played. Few likely knew who Kyle Williams was and couldn't name who Dareus currently plays for. It hasn't been a place for "National Power" or "Big Names" for a a long time. So what? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Josh, Tremane and TreD all have a good chance. Ed O and Cole are pretty well known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 It’s time to start making names for themselves. i think the phrase ‘if you don’t know who X is you will soon enough’ about a bunch of the guys on this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revealingstorm Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: We have maybe 2 or 3 on defense but unfortunately nothing on offense. Who on defense? I would argue the Bills have no stars at the moment. If Josh can ball out this season then he'll become one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 It's going to come down to Josh Allen and that is it. Star power isn't necessary, but if this team takes the next step the players are going to start getting attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Look to the future, not the past. The obvious answer here is Josh Allen. Not that he is a "national name" now per se, but that the expectation is he will blossom into one, starting this season. If he never turns the corner, none of this stuff is going to matter as we'll be headed for regime change anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Win several meaningful games and that issue resolves itself.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Now that we've cut Tyree Jackson all of our household names are gone. His college stats were equivalent to Josh Allen. Do you remember the thread about that? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Josh Allen will be a household name after this season. But, yes, we have Frank Gore. #4 on the all time rushing list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Rats, I am speechless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Now that we've cut Tyree Jackson all of our household names are gone. His college stats were equivalent to Josh Allen. Do you remember the thread about that? He was no TAR--varis Jackson, I can tell you that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Plastic Cup Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Don’t know don’t care. I care about team results. I can't believe this isn't the answer for everyone over the age of 12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Christian Wade is a household name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Put together a strong season and everyone will know names on this team. Most of our talent is young.. Have to win to get noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Josh will be... Stay tuned...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 The Bills have several rising stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 46 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I'd say Devin Singletary, Ed Oliver (if he isn't already How are two rookies who haven't played a regular season down as yet stars? One of them isn't even a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Tre White is as close as you get, though Nationally they don't consider him a Tier 1A corner yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 It's terrible not having a future hall of famer at running back. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 They will after this year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Remembering happier times when the Bills were a national brand: "Here it is in a nutshell: we’re a national brand now with Rex,” Whaley said to Don Banks of Sports Illustrated. "What I tell people is, during the combine, when Bill Belichick was walking with Rex Ryan that day? The story wasn’t about Bill Belichick, and this was right after the Patriots won the Super Bowl. The story was about Rex Ryan wearing Thurman Thomas’ jersey. When would you ever have thought that? That’s all you’ve got to say. "Before, it was, ‘Oh, it’s just Buffalo,’ and all about how we settled for someone in our head coaching hiring," Whaley continued. "We didn’t settle this time. We got what we were looking for. And I know this much, I truly believe there is a Rex Effect." https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/buffalo-bills-rex-ryan-head-coach-national-brand-081815 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo Junction said: The only name that matters is Allen. Let’s hope he progresses. If Allen doesn't become a name this season, doom and gloom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 We got nada in the star power department. Beane says FA is for filling holes, so obviously he's looking for those guys on draft day. Maybe in another year or so. Let's hope. I'm getting tired of the Bills being mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloanBillsFan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, BigDingus said: Even though Shady looked to be past his prime, he was still a household name known around the country. With him being released, who is their a player left who's name, jersey, personality, etc. brings attention to the team by themselves alone? When McBeane took over, we had Sammy Watkins, LeSean McCoy, Marcell Dareus, and arguably Kyle Williams. We got rid of Watkins prior to the regular season starting, eventually picked up Kelvin Benjamin (who wasn't a "star" but was at least well known), then proceeded to trade or cut them, with Williams eventually retiring. Yes, I know we all know Jerry Hughes, he's great, but most people don't know a thing about him (not like he brings a lot of attention to himself either, which I'm fine with). Most NFL fans tend to at least know the starting QB for each team, so Allen may be at least generally known, but aside from him we really don't have any recognition anymore. At this point, I think the 1 year rental RB in Frank Gore is our biggest "star." Ed Oliver could be the bigger name, but I'm not so sure many people associate him with the Bills or even remember he's a part of this team. Every time I discuss the Bills with my NFL friends, they seem to have already forgotten all about him. Hell, I still hear far more about Nathan Peterman when discussing the Bills than anyone else by a LONG shot. With that being said, who's most likely to jump to that status & become the name people will bring up most often in relation to the Bills? If they had to name a handful of players, who would be those names? I'd say Devin Singletary, Ed Oliver (if he isn't already), Tremaine Edmunds and obvious Josh Allen if he can even just manage a solid year overall. Outside of that, we're pretty low on personality & national recognition, which I'm not saying is a "bad" thing, it just is what it is. The only bad thing is whether we're considered a desirable team for viewership potential. The lack of nationally televised games, or even games outside of the 1:00/12:00 CST time slot is heavily influenced by not only prior record, but by star power. Market matters, but if a team has a lot of personality & intrigue surrounding its players, it becomes a hot candidate for prime time games. ************************* TL;DR - Do we have any real "stars" left? Who do you think potential future stars could be? Do those of you who live outside of Buffalo know people or have friends who don't follow the team but are aware of big name players? Personally, I'd rather have a bunch of faceless nobodies who play all 4 quarters like the 2nd and 3rd stringers did in the last few minutes of Thursday night's game than a few "household names" who ultimately think they're bigger than the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, BigDingus said: TL;DR - Do we have any real "stars" left? Who do you think potential future stars could be? Do those of you who live outside of Buffalo know people or have friends who don't follow the team but are aware of big name players? Allen and Beasley are probably the Bills most well known players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, BigDingus said: Even though Shady looked to be past his prime, he was still a household name known around the country. With him being released, who is their a player left who's name, jersey, personality, etc. brings attention to the team by themselves alone? ************************* TL;DR - Do we have any real "stars" left? Who do you think potential future stars could be? Do those of you who live outside of Buffalo know people or have friends who don't follow the team but are aware of big name players? Well, we have You! What more could we possibly want?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Quick quiz. What was the nickname for the defense of the only undefeated team in modern NFL history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: Christian Wade is a household name. Yeah, in English rugby union circles. He meant NFL circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Revealingstorm said: Who on defense? I would argue the Bills have no stars at the moment. If Josh can ball out this season then he'll become one. Based on Embedded, the defensive coaches keep telling Poyer he’s a star. Unfortunately, playing in Buffalo, he’d have to lead the NFL in interceptions to get noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Quick quiz. What was the nickname for the defense of the only undefeated team in modern NFL history? the Dickheads 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I'd say Haushka is one of the best FG kickers in the game today. I would think a medium NFL fan would know of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 No offense, but I just skimmed that. (Honestly, no offense meant!) I don’t give a hoot about big names. I like the idea of up and comers who will be the NEXT big names. What a great way to build as team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Did this thread really need to exist? Something something blue collar something something no respect. To answer the question, Tre White is the best option. If people care about kickers, Hauschka is pretty well known from his Seahawk days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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