Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I think 10 wins with or without a playoff appearance would earn McD a 2-3 year extension. 9-7 with another playoff game and I would probably extend as well if the blowout losses are less frequent and Allen is developing. 4 or less wins and he should be fired. Anything in between he is brought back on his current deal with a dreaded vote of confidence in week 16 and a playoffs or your fired ultimatum for 2020. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 To fire him? More blowouts and a sub-.500 record. To extend? AFC East title? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Fired? 10 losing seasons 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Only way he gets fired is for some type of off field misconduct, which I don’t see happening ever. Extended, would be AFCE title and go to championship game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills92 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Extend: Playoffs and a victory in the playoffs Fired: Less than 6 wins assuming Allan is healthy for the majority of the season (If he is hurt for any extended period of time.. then I think McBeane get a pass) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Fired? 10 losing seasons Always great to get an "informed fan's" opinion! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Fired. Hard to imagine it happening this year. But 10 or more losses this season would certainly generate a conversation about switching coaches. Extended. If he gets 1 or more playoff wins, you have to extend him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 If he averages more than 74 claps per game he's fired....under that I'll extend. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I'd think a huge major bad season like less than 3 wins more than that likely gets him at least a fourth season to start. If next year by Nov, they are like 2-10 then maybe gets the boot then or by year end. Beane likely survives and hires a new coach. GM's usually get at least two coaches to burn through. Extended Playoffs this year likely gets him extended or a .500 record this year puts in a wait and see what next year brings. 9-7 or better next year probably gets him extended then. Also depends alot on what happens around him. Lets assume Allen's a bust but the rest of the team is looking better, then maybe he stays. The failure rate of rookie QB's is easily 50% so firing a guy for picking the wrong QB would be really dumb and shows the likelihood of any future success is low as the owner would be clueless to fire for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) The Pegula's have put the slogan up "Trust The Process" in large letters in the entrance of the new workout facility. I doubt they're willing to remodel the entrance after one year or have the heart to put McD's NFL leading 26 assistants out the door at once and rebuild from scratch. It's not like tossing out a few coaches and staff from the Sabres and starting over. McDermott's safe through 2020. Edited June 25, 2019 by I am the egg man 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I would say a deep playoff run to the afc championship game or super bowl gets him a fat extension. I cant see any possible scenario he could get fired this year. I think they could go 2-14 and he’d still keep his job this season. I do expect them to be a playoff contending team though as currently constructed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I think in either case it’s just some paperwork 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, vorpma said: Always great to get an "informed fan's" opinion! Just reading this script, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK Fan Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I don't see any way he gets fired this year. A 10 win season or playoffs gets him an extension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I doubt that ownership will be willing to move on from McD at this juncture. I think the Pegulas understood the roster train wreck that McD and Beane inherited from Rex and Whaley. Fixing the cap situation, adding decent talent in the draft, and making smart moves in free agency are indications that the organization is moving in the right direction. Both Pegulas and Beane have spoken about building the team to be competitive for the long term. Even though the record was not good in 2018, the team played hard and seemed to be as prepared as their weak roster could be. With all of this, it doesn't make me think that they will be making any knee jerk reactions now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: I think 10 wins with or without a playoff appearance would earn McD a 2-3 year extension. 9-7 with another playoff game and I would probably extend as well if the blowout losses are less frequent and Allen is developing. 4 or less wins and he should be fired. Anything in between he is brought back on his current deal with a dreaded vote of confidence in week 16 and a playoffs or your fired ultimatum for 2020. I was actually ready to give a ridiculed response thinking it was another moron that think it's playoffs or he gets the boot. That's exactly where I'd place the win loss total for an extension or a firing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I doubt these conversations will happen this year in all probability. Next year I think this gets discussed, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, eball said: To fire him? More blowouts and a sub-.500 record. To extend? AFC East title? This sounds right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, I am the egg man said: The Pegula's have put the slogan up "Trust The Process" in large letters in the entrance of the new workout facility. I doubt they're willing to remodel the entrance after one year or have the heart to put McD's NFL leading 26 assistants out the door at once and rebuild from scratch. It's not like tossing out a few coaches and staff from the Sabres and starting over. McDermott's safe through 2020. Lol. The Process is continuous improvement. And that means evaluating what isn't working all the time and trying to get better. Even if that means getting rid of the coach . 15 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I doubt these conversations will happen this year in all probability. Next year I think this gets discussed, either way. 2-14 without an injury to Allen and they still don't happen? What if they are 4-12 and Allen is benched after 10 games? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: 2-14 without an injury to Allen and they still don't happen? What if they are 4-12 and Allen is benched after 10 games? In the cases you laid out, there probably will be talk among the owners and F.O. staff. I think these cases are highly unlikely which is why I framed my first sentence the way I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I don't think this year he will be extended OR fired, regardless of the (realistic) outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Fired? Pegula would have to say "Get out of here." Extended? Pegula would have to say "Here's more money." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 If he loses the locker room it would warrant looking elsewhere. But that's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 A proven failure like Doug Whaley got 4 years. Hard to imagine McD or Beane getting any less than that from Pegs, especially after breaking the drought in their first year... something truly heinous would have to happen. As for extension, he’s only starting year 3 of a 5 year contract, too early to do anything unless maybe an AFC East title & 1-2 playoff wins. SB win, then absolutely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Through 2 years Coach A: 14-18, -113 point differential, inherited a 5-11 team coach B: 15-17, -162 point differential, inherited a 7-9 team if Mcdermott wins 10+, extension. If he has a losing record, barring a major qb injury or just awful luck and Allen shows progress, he gets fired. Besides being a nice guy, what has he shown that is elite? It’s the nfl. You don’t need 5 years to turn around teams anymore. And coach A was Dick Jauron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Fired? Lose the locker room and win 2 - 4 games looking awful. Extended? Why? Too early. He's hired for this year and two more. But playing the game, they reach the AFC championship game. Chance of either happening, maybe 1%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) Answer is neither, this is likely a mute point thread as neither scenario is realistic. Nothing is impossible, but below are why this really is a premature thread that likely will have neither of these outcomes. The season would have to be a disaster for him to get fired. And there is almost no chance this year is worse than last year with all the development we saw down the stretch of Allen, Edmunds, and Foster to go with all the new additions to significantly upgrade what was last year mostly a terrible group of receivers, tight ends, and offensive lineman. Plus we got Milano back, lots of strong depth at CB, a healthy Murphy, and of course Oliver to elevate what was already a solid defense. Even if injuries happened that made the season fall apart, I don't think he would get fired for that this season. McD is already gaining a lot of respect around the league as a top young coach, I don't think he on any kind of a short leash at this year. There is also probably little chance he gets extended this year given he has a 5 year contract. But for argument sake, I guess an extension could happen if he either: Wins the division. Wins a playoff game. Gets double digit wins could do it if the team finished the season strong. If he starts hot and goes 5-1 to start the season, but then finishes 5-5 down the stretch for instance, not sure the double digit wins quite does the trick on its own unless he made some noise in the playoffs.. But say we started 2-3 but then started to really gel the new pieces and he finished 8-3 down the stretch with some big wins, I could see them considering it. Edited June 26, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Regression from last season's win total (excluding major injury to Josh) = fired. A playoff run (ie. Getting in and winning a game or two) = possible extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Firing is highly unlikely in 2019/2020 offseason unless something happens that embarrasses the owners, and/or they’re lied to about something significant. That seems to be what drives their decisions more than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 ....far too early for EITHER to be considered......unless you prefer reuniting the "Russ-Wrecks-Whaley Team" to get us to the promised land.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 10 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: If he averages more than 74 claps per game he's fired....under that I'll extend. I disagree. If it is 74+ claps for TD and getting the turnover then that is good. If is 74+ claps for "well, you tried but fell short" then bring out the ax. In all seriousness, he aint getting fired. This thing is happening boys and girls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Just reading this script, man! Fire everybody, no Super Bowl win, fire everybody again - the "informed fan's" mantra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Fired? Lose the locker room and win 2 - 4 games looking awful. Extended? Why? Too early. He's hired for this year and two more. But playing the game, they reach the AFC championship game. Chance of either happening, maybe 1%. Glad you saw he is on a 5 year contract. I couldn’t find that info. If that’s the case, then I think you nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 8 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Through 2 years Coach A: 14-18, -113 point differential, inherited a 5-11 team coach B: 15-17, -162 point differential, inherited a 7-9 team if Mcdermott wins 10+, extension. If he has a losing record, barring a major qb injury or just awful luck and Allen shows progress, he gets fired. Besides being a nice guy, what has he shown that is elite? It’s the nfl. You don’t need 5 years to turn around teams anymore. And coach A was Dick Jauron. Fire everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 If the Pegulas like him in January he stays if not he goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, vorpma said: Fire everybody. And get this Jauron fella on the phone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Breaking the drought pretty much bought him three years to do his thing or trust the process so to speak. Hes not going to get fired this year but I do think he’s under the microscope a little more this year vs last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) it is his 3rd year as the coach in Buffalo. extension - Super Bowl Victory what "could" get him fired would be going 4-12 (but that aint happening) Edited June 26, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, vorpma said: Fire everybody, no Super Bowl win, fire everybody again - the "informed fan's" mantra! ....yup......fire 'em all and just keep bringing more in....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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