Dan Darragh Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I find it hard to imagine that Derek is on the roster week 1. He doesn't contribute anything to the gameday roster and would almost certainly be inactive 16 out of 16 weeks barring injury. It would make sense for the Bills to persuade him to retire and make him a coach. Being a "valuable guy in the QB room" isn't enough to have him stick around as one of the 53. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I believe he’ll make the team and be inactive all year IF he refuses to become a coach. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 37 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: I find it hard to imagine that Derek is on the roster week 1. He doesn't contribute anything to the gameday roster and would almost certainly be inactive 16 out of 16 weeks barring injury. It would make sense for the Bills to persuade him to retire and make him a coach. Being a "valuable guy in the QB room" isn't enough to have him stick around as one of the 53. He’ll retire during camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 He’ll probably stick unless TJ impresses to the point that he can’t be stashed on the PS. He’s the elderly vet presence in the QB room that balances out JA. I’m sure they’d find a spot for him if he’d rather retire and switch to the coaching side of the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Probably better as a coach, but whatever role he serves is fine, as long as it helps Allen. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Players and coaches do vastly different things. Why would Anderson want to be a coach? Has he expressed interest in such a career move in the past? He probably finds it fun to still be one of the players, a part of the team, actually playing the game. And he's a veteran guy who adds knowledge to the QB room. A 3rd string QB doesn't usually add anything to the game day roster on any team. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, MJS said: Players and coaches do vastly different things. Why would Anderson want to be a coach? Has he expressed interest in such a career move in the past? He probably finds it fun to still be one of the players, a part of the team, actually playing the game. And he's a veteran guy who adds knowledge to the QB room. A 3rd string QB doesn't usually add anything to the game day roster on any team. Seems like Anderson is in this player to coach transition he still wants to be apart of a locker room but his time is running out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Anderson will make the team......as a COACH !! keep the rookie from UB on the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I would like him as a Coach/Mentor after camp rather than on the 53. Keep him as a camp arm for now though. TJ to the PS,the Bills only need 2 active QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 It's easy if you try. Josh Allen's style of play makes him open to injury. If that happens I don't see McBeane being comfortable with Jackson as the backup (he'll pry be relegated to the practice squad). It's possible all three (Allen, Barkley, Anderson) make the 53 man roster and they won't dress Anderson unless there's an injury to Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Barkley is a capable back-up and not a rookie. Just keep two QBs. Retire Anderson and Jackson will go to the PS. If they are going to keep 4 RB and a FB they will need to carry only two QBs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) Anderson will be on the team as the QB3 and inactive for most games, but Anderson will be in there during the week to help Allen and Barkley get better at their jobs. How many times has McBeane said how happy they are with their QB room now, and they recognize how they blew it by not having a strong veteran presence in that room at the beginning of last season for Allen? Turning Anderson into a coach will completely throw off the dynamic that they have created in the QB room. Allen lost his QB coach this year and he needs some stability. They are not going to take anyone else away from Allen at this point. They are not going to mess with a QB room that is working well. If Allen feels comfortable and is happy with Anderson and Barkley in that room, they are going to be there. Edited April 28, 2019 by Inigo Montoya 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 hours ago, MJS said: Players and coaches do vastly different things. Why would Anderson want to be a coach? Has he expressed interest in such a career move in the past? He probably finds it fun to still be one of the players, a part of the team, actually playing the game. And he's a veteran guy who adds knowledge to the QB room. A 3rd string QB doesn't usually add anything to the game day roster on any team. Also the pay day for a Veteran back up QB and a QB Coach or Quality Control coach is way different. Anderson is probably making a 2 year 10M contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Anderson is $1.1M for 2019 . A shift to coach if roster spot needed could be done and back to player again if needed. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/derek-anderson-1422/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Are there an CBA rules anyone is aware of about essentially stashing a 3rd QB as a coach? Imagine if Josh Allen got hurt and missed some games. He would be re-signed as the back-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Anderson is just fine as QB3, let him stay on the practice field throwing balls to receivers and running offenses as opposed to standing with a clipboard. He’s there for more than just the quarterbacks, who do you think is practicing with the rookies and showing them the playbook and where to line up and make adjustments? I’m sure if he just wanted to coach they would of already brought him back as a coach. He’s better off as one of the guys and an equal as opposed to an authority figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 He's not there to play, he's there to be a 2nd coach for Josh who isn't hampered by coaching contact restrictions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 6 hours ago, NewEra said: I believe he’ll make the team and be inactive all year IF he refuses to become a coach. Is it possible that Anderson gets some guaranteed money if he "makes" the roster, then can retire to become a coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, papazoid said: Anderson will make the team......as a COACH !! keep the rookie from UB on the roster Why would we keep the rookie on the roster? Based on the draft, no one wanted him so someone will waste a roster spot on him? He will be cut and on the practice squad. Edited April 28, 2019 by KRT88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) Tyree will be on practice squad. Unless he's just lights out in preseason no team is going to add him to their active roster. Edited April 28, 2019 by TheTruthHurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) You would hope that Allen would be so far along at this point that he does not need Anderson nor Barkley for that matter. Maybe the Buffalo kid creeps up and takes that #3 job, which is what I'm hoping will happen. Edited April 28, 2019 by NewDayBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 They don't need him as a "coach", because he's not a coach. He's walking the Green Mile now.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Derek Anderson comes down with a mysterious injury that requires him to go on IR with the possibility to return, Jackson goes to the Practice squad. Allen and Barkley active on game days. Jackson called up if an injury Weeks 1-7, Anderson can return after week 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Ain't no way Anderson is going anywhere considering how the QB position unraveled last season. I just don't see them rolling the dice twice on this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Tyree will be on practice squad. Unless he's just lights out in preseason no team is going to add him to their active roster. I've never seen this Jackson person play, sounds like posters want him just bc he went to UB. Not a good reason. If he can play, fine, but sounds like people are deciding with their hearts and not their heads. I know Anderson can play QB in the NFL if we need him to, and I want Allen seeing him preparing for game day each week, not rolling a beer belly out of the coaches room in shorts every day. Jackson wasn't even drafted, which tells me all I need to know for now. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 It is pretty well documented that adding Anderson to the room is what turned Allen’s rookie season around. I don’t know why we would cut that guy in favor of an undrafted rookie qb that was fun to watch in college. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: I've never seen this Jackson person play, sounds like posters want him just bc he went to UB. Not a good reason. If he can play, fine, but sounds like people are deciding with their hearts and not their heads. I know Anderson can play QB in the NFL if we need him to, and I want Allen seeing him preparing for game day each week, not rolling a beer belly out of the coaches room in shorts every day. Jackson wasn't even drafted, which tells me all I need to know for now. That's completely wrong. He has a ton of talent. Maybe two tons. He needs some time to develop and reel that talent in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: I've never seen this Jackson person play, sounds like posters want him just bc he went to UB. Not a good reason. If he can play, fine, but sounds like people are deciding with their hearts and not their heads. I know Anderson can play QB in the NFL if we need him to, and I want Allen seeing him preparing for game day each week, not rolling a beer belly out of the coaches room in shorts every day. Jackson wasn't even drafted, which tells me all I need to know for now. Very raw player who is in the same mold as Allen. Huge arm (was yelled at for throwing too hard at the combine), good mobility, questionable accuracy and ball security. I’m very excited to have him on this team. I would roll with Allen/Barkley with Tyree on the practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: I find it hard to imagine that Derek is on the roster week 1. He doesn't contribute anything to the gameday roster and would almost certainly be inactive 16 out of 16 weeks barring injury. It would make sense for the Bills to persuade him to retire and make him a coach. Being a "valuable guy in the QB room" isn't enough to have him stick around as one of the 53. A coach can't take actual reps in practice. I suspect the Bills like having Anderson suited up during the week and actually showing Allen the throws, footwork, sight reads as a player would see them, not just a coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I can’t see any way McBeane will allow themselves to be put in a situation like last year. Allen is susceptible to injury because of his style of play. Unless Jackson just kills it in preseason, we’ll keep Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lurker said: A coach can't take actual reps in practice. I suspect the Bills like having Anderson suited up during the week and actually showing Allen the throws, footwork, sight reads as a player would see them, not just a coach... He might beat out Barkley for the active game day job, too. Barkley had a good game, he is not a good quarterback or backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Is it possible that Anderson gets some guaranteed money if he "makes" the roster, then can retire to become a coach? No idea. I’m sure there are some loopholes we can exploit, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: I've never seen this Jackson person play, sounds like posters want him just bc he went to UB. Not a good reason. If he can play, fine, but sounds like people are deciding with their hearts and not their heads. I know Anderson can play QB in the NFL if we need him to, and I want Allen seeing him preparing for game day each week, not rolling a beer belly out of the coaches room in shorts every day. Jackson wasn't even drafted, which tells me all I need to know for now. Im in the same boat. That said, I trust the process. 8 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: I can’t see any way McBeane will allow themselves to be put in a situation like last year. Allen is susceptible to injury because of his style of play. Unless Jackson just kills it in preseason, we’ll keep Anderson. Yet, his only injury last season was from staying in a collapsing pocket. Let us not forget that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: I find it hard to imagine that Derek is on the roster week 1. He doesn't contribute anything to the gameday roster and would almost certainly be inactive 16 out of 16 weeks barring injury. It would make sense for the Bills to persuade him to retire and make him a coach. Being a "valuable guy in the QB room" isn't enough to have him stick around as one of the 53. He only needs to be here for TC once the season starts his "Coaching" days are over and Allen is Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: I've never seen this Jackson person play, sounds like posters want him just bc he went to UB. Not a good reason. If he can play, fine, but sounds like people are deciding with their hearts and not their heads. I know Anderson can play QB in the NFL if we need him to, and I want Allen seeing him preparing for game day each week, not rolling a beer belly out of the coaches room in shorts every day. Jackson wasn't even drafted, which tells me all I need to know for now. Here is good Tyree from last season vs. Eastern Michigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 8 hours ago, NewEra said: I believe he’ll make the team and be inactive all year IF he refuses to become a coach. It's an interesting question. To put someone who is intended to be inactive all year on the 53 is clearly not the best management of the roster spot. On the other hand, to leave Allen in the position of having no real veteran mentor who can steady him when he has a great game and help him take off his party hat and grind for the next opponent, or who can steady him and keep him from hearing footsteps when he gets beaten up (for a second season) would be completely irresponsible. A coach is not the same as a player...coaches be doing coach things while players arrive at o-dark-hundred and hit the weights then start the film. I really have no idea how they're going to handle the QB situation, except hopefully "not like last season". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, KRT88 said: Why would we keep the rookie on the roster? Based on the draft, no one wanted him so someone will waste a roster spot on him? He will be cut and on the practice squad. 49 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: I've never seen this Jackson person play, sounds like posters want him just bc he went to UB. Not a good reason. If he can play, fine, but sounds like people are deciding with their hearts and not their heads. I know Anderson can play QB in the NFL if we need him to, and I want Allen seeing him preparing for game day each week, not rolling a beer belly out of the coaches room in shorts every day. Jackson wasn't even drafted, which tells me all I need to know for now. I see @PromoTheRobot post above, and as he said "good Tyree". I watched , i guess, the last 4 or 5 UB games, and I thought he was just awful and regressed a bunch during the year. I think he will struggle big time in the NFL, and will be lucky to even make the practice squad. I guess you can say for $75 K, good risk, but no way is he taking a roster spot this year IMO. Edited April 28, 2019 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, Lurker said: A coach can't take actual reps in practice. I suspect the Bills like having Anderson suited up during the week and actually showing Allen the throws, footwork, sight reads as a player would see them, not just a coach... Is that actually true? I mean, I suppose a coach can't take hits, but demoing throws and footwork? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It's an interesting question. To put someone who is intended to be inactive all year on the 53 is clearly not the best management of the roster spot. On the other hand, to leave Allen in the position of having no real veteran mentor who can steady him when he has a great game and help him take off his party hat and grind for the next opponent, or who can steady him and keep him from hearing footsteps when he gets beaten up (for a second season) would be completely irresponsible. A coach is not the same as a player...coaches be doing coach things while players arrive at o-dark-hundred and hit the weights then start the film. I really have no idea how they're going to handle the QB situation, except hopefully "not like last season". ...McBeane masterfully crafted his contract with only $180,000 guaranteed, so Anderson is an easy out at any time....can then slide him onto the coaching staff as perhaps an Assistant QB Coach as a reward for being a "good soldier"...certainly bailed McBeane out after the Peterman/McCarron gaffe IMO...I believe week 1 would be the deadline before salary is fully guaranteed as a vested vet... Derek Anderson signed a 1 year, $1,120,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $90,000 signing bonus, $90,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $1,120,000. In 2019, Anderson will earn a base salary of $1,030,000 and a signing bonus of $90,000, while carrying a cap hit of $735,000 and a dead cap value of $90,000. Edited April 28, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I think the Bills learned their lesson from last years QB debacle and won’t make the same mistake twice...Anderson stays imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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