Augie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) The question was “biggest”, as in one. I’ll pass over a #1 WR who needs double coverage and a solid OT or DT to say an elite edge rusher. We need to get more pressure on opposing QB’s. Up the middle sounds great, but I’m not sure Oliver can hold his ground consistently. Having said all that, I will ask.....what the heck do I know? It’s nice to feel for once that the FO has a far better handle on this than WE do! . Edited March 28, 2019 by Augie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: A legitimate #1 WR. Somebody that requires double coverage Only correct answer. Was anyone afraid of the skill players on Buffalo, Baltimore or Dallas last season? Nope, but we got the best them! i want 2 #1 WRs. The lines can be filled in with mid-late round picks and free agents. Dangerous wide receivers are very hard to get. Edit: elite pass rusher is a close second but Hughes is underrated Edited March 27, 2019 by Chemical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Rings...lots and lots of rings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 A replacement for Kyle, Lorenzo and Shady! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trust The Process Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Our biggest need is a 3 Tech Defensive Tackle: Ed Oliver or Christian Wilkins with our 1st Round pick Big Physical WR: Hakeem Butler with our 2nd Round pick Defensive End: Chase Winovich with our 3rd Round Pick Running Back to eventually replace Lesean McCoy and Frank Gore: Bryce Love with our 4th Round pick Tight End: Jace Sternberger, Dawson Knox with our 4th Round pick Strong Side LB to eventually replace Lorenzo Alexander Followed by CB, OT, OG, Punter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Interior DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Tight End still. What they have is wayyy below replacement level at the position. Croom Kroft and a converted tackle? No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Madness Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Chemical said: Nope, but we got the best them! What? 1 hour ago, Chemical said: The lines can be filled in with mid-late round picks and free agents. We already tried this...it doesn't work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Pass Rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 you are wasting a year of Josh Allen if you do not build him an o-line, have someone who can gain positive yards and not fumble, and have guys who can run routes and catch the ball. with that said - our biggest need is an elite TE who can block and catch. Brady was Brady because of Gronk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Westside Madness said: What? We already tried this...it doesn't work. We signed John Brown and cole Beasley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Ramza86 said: Tackle? DT? DE? I think we do need alot more bodies and talent on the defense life. Pass rusher, regardless of position. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 It is shocking to me how few people understand our dire need for a great running back or two. With that kind of thinking, do our eyes deceive us? Was our running game NOT one of the most profound weaknesses on this team last year, a main reason the Bills were not better, with the only good running done by Allen? Don't say it will all fixed with a better offensive line as we cannot rely on that--McCoy, a very good, sometimes great player as a Bill almost never looked good--and that is not an exaggeration. He looked done. I hope that is not the case, both for his sake and the Bills, but we can only go by what we saw--and what we saw was no longer a starting caliber NFL running back, and, if we believe what we saw, not even a backup caliber running back. The Bills best get a running back or two--and early in the draft--or this will very likely be a major reason the Bills don't succeed this year. Almost no team can do well, especially one led by a young quarterback. without a solid running game. It makes the passing game better, the defense better, and is even more important with our climate. Good running backs are not, no matter the silly common knowledge now, a dime a dozen. See: the 2018 Buffalo Bills . The Bills can not this clear and present, even dire need, go unadressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 why does everyone think our defense has huge holes that we need to burn a #9 pick on it? we literally had one of the worst offenses in modern history a few weeks into the season... we gotta go offense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 We still need more offensive playmakers. IMO, we need to draft a stud TE for Allen. Also, one more stud OL. I’m not sold on the additions of John Brown and Cole Beasley. Not saying I don’t like the moves because I do...just think we need even more studs on the offensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, McBean said: We still need more offensive playmakers. IMO, we need to draft a stud TE for Allen. Also, one more stud OL. I’m not sold on the additions of John Brown and Cole Beasley. Not saying I don’t like the moves because I do...just think we need even more studs on the offensive side of the ball. Yeah I want some huge pass catchers, be it at WR or TE... Brown and Beasley are fine, but we need a prototype "hood ornament" type reciever. Then pass rush. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 hours ago, BuffAlone said: Brown and Foster. Who do you double? Beasley? Zay? None. You play soft zone, give the kid underneath which he’s not proven he will take and try to rush him into a bad throw downfield... that’s how I expect defenses to play buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Ramza86 said: Tackle? DT? DE? I think we do need alot more bodies and talent on the defense life. We don't have major needs as we did last year. No absolute holes. But I'm with most that the positions that most need an upgrade are just in line with what this draft offers in the top ten, DT and pass-rushing DE. After that, TE, maybe, but I don't see us going there in the first. And there are plenty of positions where we lack talented depth, such as LB. 2 hours ago, rayray808 said: you are wasting a year of Josh Allen if you do not build him an o-line, have someone who can gain positive yards and not fumble, and have guys who can run routes and catch the ball. with that said - our biggest need is an elite TE who can block and catch. Brady was Brady because of Gronk Brady was Brady before Gronk, and he'll be Brady till he retires. Yeah, Gronk was a major help, but he didn't even come close to making Brady. The Pats, with Brady at QB, had three championships before they drafted Gronk. Edited March 28, 2019 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: It is shocking to me how few people understand our dire need for a great running back or two. With that kind of thinking, do our eyes deceive us? Was our running game NOT one of the most profound weaknesses on this team last year, a main reason the Bills were not better, with the only good running done by Allen? Don't say it will all fixed with a better offensive line as we cannot rely on that--McCoy, a very good, sometimes great player as a Bill almost never looked good--and that is not an exaggeration. He looked done. I hope that is not the case, both for his sake and the Bills, but we can only go by what we saw--and what we saw was no longer a starting caliber NFL running back, and, if we believe what we saw, not even a backup caliber running back. The Bills best get a running back or two--and early in the draft--or this will very likely be a major reason the Bills don't succeed this year. Almost no team can do well, especially one led by a young quarterback. without a solid running game. It makes the passing game better, the defense better, and is even more important with our climate. Good running backs are not, no matter the silly common knowledge now, a dime a dozen. See: the 2018 Buffalo Bills . The Bills can not this clear and present, even dire need, go unadressed. I know you don't want to hear it, but the major reason we had a bad run game last year wasn't the running backs. It was problems at OL and the complete lack of respect teams felt they could give to our passing game. I think you're right we'll draft one. I doubt it's earlier than the 3rd, perhaps even later. We'll see. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, billsredneck1 said: well kyle sure wasn't anything special his 1st few years. He actually was. Right from the beginning he was getting into the backfield. Yes, he got better as time passed, but he was good right from the beginning. Nobody had to double the other DT, Larry Triplett. Kyle was very quickly the guy they double-teamed on that line, despite Schobel being a good - not great but good - pass rusher. No, rookie Phillips wasn't as good as a rookie Kyle. But I'm more positive about Phillips than most. He was good early in the season. Edited March 28, 2019 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Great post and great question. You are asking a specific question that should be answered with a specific answer. We have a lot of need still in just about every position group so I don’t want to give my opinion or preference without giving it some great thought. Personally I would love to see the Bills get a blue chip DL at the #9 slot and I’m assuming when you ask what our greatest need is that you are also intending on it being addressed with our 1st pick in the draft wherever that may be. So based on that, and correct me if I’m wrong or interperting your question the wrong way I would have to look at this question or situation from Beane’s point of view. I would have to say based on the limited knowledge I have on our roster’s talents and abilities that we should build the lines until we are confidant that we have a great and superior DL and OL. I don’t think as of right now we do so these 2 areas are where I would concentrate on. Seeing that this is suppose to be a very deep defensive draft I think that with the right evaluation the Bills will be able to find good defensive help in the early rounds (1-3). I would keep in mind that we haven’t had a real QB since Jim Kelly. Seeing that the QB is the most important chess piece on the board and the most elusive to fulfill then that aspect alone would make the decision even more decisive to me. OL, to me, is the biggest need at this time. The Bills need a stud OT and if they can get one, whether it by via draft, trade or FA, then that should be their top priority. None of this works without Josh and the Bills better make sure that he stays upright. Add in the factor that in this draft there might be only a couple of blue chip OL in this draft. I could be wrong about this because I’m not a professional scout so I’m relying on our administration to get this right. If I’m somewhat accurate about our current players abilities and our biggest need is to be filled by drafting then imo I think that Florida’s OT Jawaan Taylor is the pick for us if the Bills deem him a stud at the OT position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 in order: DE, RT, DT, OLB, TE, RB, WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Needs are what they are but we still need to draft the BPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 hours ago, mjt328 said: Biggest Needs: Tight End 3-Tech Defensive Tackle Medium Needs: Defensive End Offensive Guard or Tackle Depth/Looking to Future Needs: Running Back Strongside Linebacker Wide Receiver what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Mister Defense said: It is shocking to me how few people understand our dire need for a great running back or two. With that kind of thinking, do our eyes deceive us? Was our running game NOT one of the most profound weaknesses on this team last year, a main reason the Bills were not better, with the only good running done by Allen? Don't say it will all fixed with a better offensive line as we cannot rely on that--McCoy, a very good, sometimes great player as a Bill almost never looked good--and that is not an exaggeration. He looked done. I hope that is not the case, both for his sake and the Bills, but we can only go by what we saw--and what we saw was no longer a starting caliber NFL running back, and, if we believe what we saw, not even a backup caliber running back. The Bills best get a running back or two--and early in the draft--or this will very likely be a major reason the Bills don't succeed this year. Almost no team can do well, especially one led by a young quarterback. without a solid running game. It makes the passing game better, the defense better, and is even more important with our climate. Good running backs are not, no matter the silly common knowledge now, a dime a dozen. See: the 2018 Buffalo Bills . The Bills can not this clear and present, even dire need, go unadressed. Even if running back was our biggest need, this is not the year to spend a high pick on one. This is not a very good class. Josh Jacobs is considered the best RB in this class by far, and most see him as a early-mid 2nd round pick. After that, you have about 10-15 mid-round guys who nobody can agree on, and will likely start coming off the board between the late 2nd and 4th rounds. So unless you are a huge fan of Jacobs, the sweet spot for RB is early on Day 3. On top of that, many of us believe that most of LeSean McCoy's problems last year were due to the O-Line. Nobody could have had success behind our blocking last season. Especially not a RB who relies on elusiveness, and isn't great at breaking tackles. Not Ezekiel Elliott. Not Saquan Barkley. Not Todd Gurley. It was a total disaster. Since Beane has focused heavily on fixing our O-Line (five free agents added), there is plenty of reason to be optimistic for the running game to recover next season. If McCoy is truly done, then we simply put Frank Gore into the lineup. Sure, Gore is not the long-term answer. But he was still one of the NFL's best running backs last season and should still be very effective. Running back isn't a position that needs grooming and development. Most of the league's top runners played great as rookies. So if we can get ONE good season out of either McCoy or Gore, we can plan on drafting a guy earlier in 2020 - hopefully with a better class of RBs available. As a final point, I think many of us recognize the importance of having a Pro-Bowl workhouse running back is passing away. The Patriots have been successful for years with a committee approach. The Saints too. The Chiefs and Steelers lost their top guys last season and never missed a beat. Gurley was totally ineffective down the stretch, and the Rams still made the Super Bowl by plugging in a guy off the street. The Giants immediately drafted/inserted a Top 5 guy into their lineup, and he made no impact on the team's record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 9 hours ago, rayray808 said: why does everyone think our defense has huge holes that we need to burn a #9 pick on it? we literally had one of the worst offenses in modern history a few weeks into the season... we gotta go offense The only thing we have to do is pick the best football player available. That’s it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: OC In a brilliant and thoroughly unexpected move, McBeane wows the NFL by becoming the first team to draft an Offensive Coordinator... Edited March 28, 2019 by ROCBillsBeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, mjt328 said: As a final point, I think many of us recognize the importance of having a Pro-Bowl workhouse running back is passing away. The Patriots have been successful for years with a committee approach. The Saints too. The Chiefs and Steelers lost their top guys last season and never missed a beat. Gurley was totally ineffective down the stretch, and the Rams still made the Super Bowl by plugging in a guy off the street. The Giants immediately drafted/inserted a Top 5 guy into their lineup, and he made no impact on the team's record. Yup. If you have a good line and passing game, RB can be almost anyone. Some are better, and others like Barkley are spectacular, but over-paying for RB is a waste. For 35 million, give me 3 top lineman and a decent vet RB instead of a top RB and 3 medium lineman. Every day. Edited March 28, 2019 by BeginnersMind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: In a brilliant and thoroughly unexpected move, McBeane wows the NFL by becoming the first team to draft an Offensive Coordinator... That wasn't the OP's question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: That wasn't the OP's question. Can I buy this man a beer? ? ? ? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 17 hours ago, Ramza86 said: Tackle? DT? DE? I think we do need alot more bodies and talent on the defense life. I would have to agree. Build on the DL, and get another LB to take over for Lorenzo Alexander once he hangs up his cleats. They can't allow themselves to get so caught up in fixing the offense that they neglect building up on the defensive side of the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 10 hours ago, rayray808 said: why does everyone think our defense has huge holes that we need to burn a #9 pick on it? we literally had one of the worst offenses in modern history a few weeks into the season... we gotta go offense Its really on Josh Allen. I think 2nd round is a great round to add offensive receiving weapons. I also think OL and RB can filled 3rd-4th round. There will be an elite DL at 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 DT, OT, TE, RB, LB, WR I believe and I’ve said it before the road to anywhere goes through Tom Brady and I would personally like to see a big fast DT go through him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 recent clues that the Bills may be more interested in finding an interior pass rusher: At the owner’s meetings McDermott's response to the impact Short had in Carolina for his team is one to remember distinctly should the Bills stand pat at ninth overall: "Yeah that's big. That's really big. To be able to get pressure from the inside... you know, people would argue that there's ways to take away the edge rusher more than there is ways to take away the inside, the interior rusher, and I would probably agree. The ability to pressure an effective quarterback from the inside out is critical when you want to play good football on defense. So, you've got to make sure that you've got enough of those guys." The Bills only have Phillips on a 1 year contract at this position and could really use some help there. McDermott values the three-technique defensive tackle role in his defense and there will be some available at the top of the draft (Williams, Oliver, Wilkins). Brandon Beane has spent time this week talking about the importance of winning your own division and thus paying most attention to the divisional opponents, especially the Patriots. Defensively, how have teams generally slowed down or disrupted the Patriots offense. It comes from getting pressure on Brady and generally from the interior. With edge rushers Brady has a better chance of stepping up in the pocket and deliver his quick strikes in 2 seconds or less. But interior pressure, can stop Brady from stepping up and disrupt the timing of his quick game. Finding an interior rusher like an Ed Oliver might be more valuable to the Bills because they are trying first and foremost to match up with the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 ILB is a big need. If Edmunds doesn't show significant progress in the run game, and at some point they decide to move him outside, they will need someone to step up to the plate. Who is his current backup? I'd spend a 4th round pick to address this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Blocking. I know that I am a broken record but it is even more important now. We have a young, mega-talented quarterback. He needs protection and a better running game to properly develop and better blocking would provide both, along with increased time of possession. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 If we draft Jawaan Taylor with 1st pick, I predict we trade back for Jaylon Ferguson. If we draft Oliver/Gary/Wilkins with our 1st pick, I predict we trade up for Chris Lindstrom. Our 1st 2 picks will be offensive and defensive line I am guessing. TE and RB are next up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I would rank the top 4 needs as: 1. 3 tech defensive tackle 2. edge rusher 3. linebacker depth 4. offensive line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 18 hours ago, Misterbluesky said: You must have missed a lot of KC games...Morse is the real deal.The best we have had here since,Kent Hull. "Offensive Coordinator" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Ramza86 said: Tackle? DT? DE? I think we do need alot more bodies and talent on the defense life. A good first step would be to create a chart of the starting units and rank each of those players from poor, fair, average, very good, exellent, and go from there. As of now Allen for better or worse is cemented in at the QB position and Morse who's probably above-average cemented at C. Seems to me that all of the other offensive positions are up-for-grabs. Dawkins will start but he's average. Foster, Beasley, Brown, and Jones will be around but none of them have proven to be above-average. Gore and Shady, well, if you're living in the past they'll be great, otherwise there's major cause for concern there. Defensively the secondary is good enough, Edmunds is cemented at MLB, Milano's probably above-average, but otherwise the DL's bereft of A-iist talent in a big way and Lorax at 36 was decent last season but has been very inconsistent during his stint with us. As well, he's a band-aid fix as he's likely retiring after the season, so he serves no long-term purpose. Of the six first picks on last year's draft thru round 5 four were defensive with only Allen and Teller being offensive, and Teller was the last of those six drafted towards the end of the 5th. Seems to me that they have to reverse that this season and go O-heavy in a similar manner. After all, the recurrent theme seems to be "giving Allen the tools that he needs," which isn't going to be helped by drafting defenders. Edited March 28, 2019 by TaskersGhost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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