BuffaloBill Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I am watching “A Football Life - Lawrence Taylor” and tt makes me think that a once in a generation player changed the course of Bills history. The Giants likely would have lost to the 49’rs in the NFC game had it not been for LT. Who knows what would have happened had the bills faced the Niners instead of the Giants. What is most impressive about LT is that he may well be the most dominant player to ever play football. He was without doubt a game changing player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I would not want to burden any single individual with that horrible weight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Bruce Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Kelsay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 At his moment in time, OJ was the entire focal point of the Bills. Defenses knew. The offense knew. The fans knew it. And he still ran for over 2,000 in a 14 game season. But, not a long career here and no playoff victories. For long term and victories, I'd go either Bruce or Kelly. Perhaps Thurman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 That’s easy - Jim Kelly. He was the leader of the best years of the team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 John DiGiorgio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaMike Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I see two "most notable" items and therefore notable faces in Bills post merger NFL history. Those would be: 1. The four straight Super Bowl appearances & losses - the faces of the franchise there were Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, & Bruce Smith. You might say the single memorable event there was "wide right" so you could say Scott Norwood. 2. The first 2000 yard rusher - the face there is OJ. Take your choice between them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I see most people didn't understand the point of this thread.... OP, there is one man.... Ralph Wilson. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Bruce or Kelly Just now, LeGOATski said: I see most people didn't understand the point of this thread.... OP, there is one man.... Ralph Wilson. Threads about a "player." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Only two choices.... O.J. Simpson or Jim Kelly. The answer in large part depends on how old you are. I was just a little kid when the Juice was Loose. Kelly is more my era so I vote Jimbo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Bruce or Kelly Threads about a "player." Ralph Wilson was most certainly a "player" in this "game." ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I see most people didn't understand the point of this thread.... OP, there is one man.... Ralph Wilson. Interesting thought thought, I did say player. I brought up LT because had the Bills won the first SB who knows what their legacy would be. It is a matter of conjecture. But an interesting thought is that had the Bills won and then fallen apart maybe the result would be fewer HOF careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Martin Nance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Your Brown Eye said: Martin Nance Explain,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Kelly. He represents the only enduring stretch of success in franchise history. Outside of the Kelly era, the NFL Bills have been a horrible football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Scott Norwood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) Kelly is the obvious answer. Captain Hindsight would say Blesode. If Bledsoe pays better in '03 we don't draft Losman and '04 and likely wait a year. The 2nd best rated quarterback on the board was Aaron Rodgers in '05. Edited March 15, 2019 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Kelly is the obvious answer. Captain Hindsight would say Blesode. If Bledsoe pays better in '03 we don't draft Losman and '04 and likely wait a year. The 2nd best rated quarterback on the board was Aaron Rodgers in '05. Interesting... less than obvious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I mean the sad part is that it’s probably Norwood. If he makes the kick he’s never thought of as the reason we won a super bowl. But because he missed the kick...he’s the closest thing to being individually responsible. That kick changes every narrative about the Bills. If we make it, the next 3 Super Bowls don’t even have to happen or matter. That team would be remembered as it should be be and the Bills wouldn’t be a team that never won but lost 4 straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Jack Kemp, he won two championships. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 It's Norwood and it's not even close. If he makes that FG the entire history of the Bills and Buffalo is different. The miss is more famous than any other play in Buffalo sports history and has defined the franchise for 3 decades ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I mean the sad part is that it’s probably Norwood. If he makes the kick he’s never thought of as the reason we won a super bowl. But because he missed the kick...he’s the closest thing to being individually responsible. That kick changes every narrative about the Bills. If we make it, the next 3 Super Bowls don’t even have to happen or matter. That team would be remembered as it should be be and the Bills wouldn’t be a team that never won but lost 4 straight. Sad to say, you nailed it. LT was a generational player who defined the Giants for a short period of time. I could argue that Eli had a bigger singular impact on that franchise's history than LT despite being a far inferior player. It's before my time, but Y.A. Tittle might be the titular holder of the crown for the Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I mean the sad part is that it’s probably Norwood. If he makes the kick he’s never thought of as the reason we won a super bowl. But because he missed the kick...he’s the closest thing to being individually responsible. That kick changes every narrative about the Bills. If we make it, the next 3 Super Bowls don’t even have to happen or matter. That team would be remembered as it should be be and the Bills wouldn’t be a team that never won but lost 4 straight. 18 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: It's Norwood and it's not even close. If he makes that FG the entire history of the Bills and Buffalo is different. The miss is more famous than any other play in Buffalo sports history and has defined the franchise for 3 decades ever since. Back then a 47 yard FG was less than a sure thing. I hear what you say but he was asked to do the improbable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bills Blog Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Felton Huggins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Bruce Smith is the best player, followed closely by OJ, but Jim Kelly is the face of the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I mean all told, everyone from the past is done. They didn’t deliver what we all still hope for. So it could be Josh Allen. His story isn’t written yet and he hasn’t fallen short yet. He represents hope and if he turns into what he should be...he might give us 9 or 10 looks at it before it’s all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Jack Kemp is certainly someone to consider 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Before there was Bruce Smith, there was Tom Sestak, and before there was OJ, there was Cookie, perhaps the greatest football player of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Well, to answer the title question, Ralph. If it wasn'tfor him there would be no history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Responsible for what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickrage Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 8 hours ago, White Linen said: John DiGiorgio Or Ed Wang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Nathan Peterman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Doug Flutie. Lagging sales of luxury suites and Ralph Wilson's ultimatum (maybe only a phony one--but we really do not know) had the franchise here in doubt. Flutie as a starting QB injected energy into the team and spurred demand for luxury suites and they were able to hit the threshold (it was $9 million--maybe?) Anyways, that's what is deposited in my memory bank which often has insufficient funds, much like my other bank accounts. Anyways, enthusiasm for the franchise was waning at a critical juncture in franchise history and Flutie was the dose of prednisone they needed at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Obviously, it's Roland Hooks, as he started it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 JP Losman / Aaron Rodgers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Kelly is the obvious answer. Captain Hindsight would say Blesode. If Bledsoe pays better in '03 we don't draft Losman and '04 and likely wait a year. The 2nd best rated quarterback on the board was Aaron Rodgers in '05. You don't know me ? I'd say Reggie Williams. Who the Jaguars just had to have instead of trading with us to aquire Roethlisberger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 One could say OJ; picking him was the impetus to the new stadium and kept the team in Buffalo. And of course Kelly. I'll throw Mike Stratton out there. His hit in Keith Lincoln paved the way for their first AFL championship which in turn solidified the fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 There is no player. I agree with those who said Ralph Wilson. He’s the one that stuck with Buffalo from beginning to end. So many of the players mentioned, while eventually coming around, didn’t even want to go to Buffalo when drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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