ndirish1978 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 We have a million holes. Our punters have been abysmal. Would you use a pick on someone like Jake Bailey from Stanford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: We have a million holes. Our punters have been abysmal. Would you use a pick on someone like Jake Bailey from Stanford? If I remember correctly Cory Carter was punting well until he got IR'ed at the end of preseason. I think he is going to be the guy to beat this summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Bojorquez looked good to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 No, we have Bodork! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I think it depends whats there - if there's a player there you scouted and like a lot then i would say grab him. There is a clear opportunity to start here for sure - but a few other teams had really lousy punters as well. The seahawks drafted dickson in the 5th last year and he was the best punter in the league last year - but for the most part rookie punters usually fall in the middle of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Bills don't care about ST, haven't for a long time. Belichick considers it a vital part of his game plan, it pans out all the time for wins for him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Bojorquez was an adventure, whether it was dropping a perfect snap or attempting to throw the ball ... Everyone else they tried was even worse ... Yeah I'd easily spend a 7th round pick on someone to surrender the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 no we have 2 young ones who have good hang time and long legs under contract coming off IR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Remember playing street football as a kid? Most times you just had the kid playing QB yell ‘PUNT’ on fourth down, and he would hurl the ball to the other team’s waiting return man. What with our punters, and Allen’s arm, we might be onto something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I know nothing about college punters. If we can draft a potential top 10 punter in the 7th rd, I’m all for it. Our punters have sucked since moorman. I miss him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) If better than what you have, sure, why not? Skimping on special teams players = sh---y special teams. Edited February 14, 2019 by KD in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 punters matter https://nypost.com/2019/01/29/bill-belichick-cant-stop-gushing-over-rams-punter/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 The punter that broke his leg in the pre season during a punt was booming them. He would of been our guy last year. Expect to see him as our starting punter this year. 13 minutes ago, NewEra said: I know nothing about college punters. If we can draft a potential top 10 punter in the 7th rd, I’m all for it. Our punters have sucked since moorman. I miss him. Miss Moorman, not the era. Too many years he was the best player on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, KD in CA said: If better than what you have, sure, why not? Skimping on special teams players = sh---y special teams. how many times the last 20 years have i thought "maybe they'll return this kickoff/punt for a TD" all i hope now is they don't fumble it away and/or get a penalty knocking them half the distance back 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, row_33 said: how many times the last 20 years have i thought "maybe they'll return this kickoff/punt for a TD" all i hope now is they don't fumble it away and/or get a penalty knocking them half the distance back In the last 20 years like as in the Mgee era? Plenty. In recent years? Not so much. I think the bills DO care....hence they have fired their ST's coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I think 55 minutes ago, row_33 said: Bills don't care about ST, haven't for a long time. Belichick considers it a vital part of his game plan, it pans out all the time for wins for him Yup that is why we hired a new ST coordinator and resigned our key ST players also paid Haushmoney really well, it is because ST are not important.? I believe Carter and Mr. Bojangals will compete in TC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, freddyjj said: no we have 2 young ones who have good hang time and long legs under contract coming off IR I agree. Bojorquez was pretty good even though he was a rookie with virtually no playing time at all even in preseason because Belichick was trying to hide him. He averaged 45.1 yards even though he was in a lot of pain for the last three and half games he played before they IR'd him. The pass attempt came on the botched field goal and so did the injury. With some actual preparation and experience in handling those kinds of contingencies, he should be fine. Edited February 14, 2019 by BuffaloBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 47 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: I think Yup that is why we hired a new ST coordinator and resigned our key ST players also paid Haushmoney really well, it is because ST are not important.? I believe Carter and Mr. Bojangals will compete in TC. that proves....... nothing on the field.... so far...... you are suggesting that ST has been an important part of the team the last few years? think real hard.................................................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I am fine with having Carter and Bojorquez battle it out in camp. Two of Bojorquez’s big errors are easily correctable. He heard the wrong call and thought fake punt on one, a mistake I’m sure he will never make again. He fumbled a snap too, but I’m willing to overlook a rookie mistake. If he can improve his consistency a bit he will be just fine. If he hits it right he absolutely booms it. Also can’t overlook the fact that we will have a far better special teams coach (because whoever they hired can’t be any worse than Crossman). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, freddyjj said: no we have 2 young ones who have good hang time and long legs under contract coming off IR Yeah but do they have big hands? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, row_33 said: that proves....... nothing on the field.... so far...... you are suggesting that ST has been an important part of the team the last few years? think real hard.................................................................. K. I offered specific things that they have done. What are you offering. Heres a clue for you and several others on this board. If you want to change somebodys mind about something, then you need to offer some sort of data or info of some kind. Not "I dont feel that way so youre wrong even if I apparently have no Idea why I believe that" Like-According to Football Outsiders 2018-32nd 2017-10th 2016-22nd 2015-12th Edited February 14, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Bojo punted well imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, row_33 said: that proves....... nothing on the field.... so far...... you are suggesting that ST has been an important part of the team the last few years? think real hard.................................................................. They have not been good.....but this front office has only had 2 years in office. And after that second year......they fired the ST's coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, 2018 Our Year For Sure said: Bojorquez looked good to me Yes. Then he got injured. I think he'll do fine. He does need more practice and experience, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: If I remember correctly Cory Carter was punting well until he got IR'ed at the end of preseason. I think he is going to be the guy to beat this summer. ....good call bud.....and I agree..... Bojorquez looked good also.. .. Edited February 14, 2019 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, Bills2ref said: I am fine with having Carter and Bojorquez battle it out in camp. Two of Bojorquez’s big errors are easily correctable. He heard the wrong call and thought fake punt on one, a mistake I’m sure he will never make again. He fumbled a snap too, but I’m willing to overlook a rookie mistake. If he can improve his consistency a bit he will be just fine. If he hits it right he absolutely booms it. Also can’t overlook the fact that we will have a far better special teams coach (because whoever they hired can’t be any worse than Crossman). Corey Carter i believe would have won the punter job if he didnt tear his ACL. Carter and Bojorquez will fight it out. No need to draft a punter. The Bills have more pressing needs on offense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, row_33 said: Bills don't care about ST, haven't for a long time. Belichick considers it a vital part of his game plan, it pans out all the time for wins for him What nonsense are you spouting? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....good call bud.....and I agree..... Bojorquez looked good also.. .. Yep, let the best one win. Only ST player concerning me is Hauschka and his injury. Let's all hope he comes back healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I thought Michael Dickson was worth a pick last year, but I'll pass most years. There are usually a few udfa's that not that different from the couple who get picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 When Bogo comes back we'll fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I believe I would if the team really believes in the punter. Let's face it. There's not a whole lot of difference between a 7th RD pick and an UDFA. There is always the occasional homerun in the 7th round, but they're so few and far between that I wouldn't mind "locking up" a solid punter. I will say this about the Buffalo Bills situation. I am not a fan of Colton Schmidt's punting. I'd rather have the camp upstart or Bojorquez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: If I remember correctly Cory Carter was punting well until he got IR'ed at the end of preseason. I think he is going to be the guy to beat this summer. I was excited about Carter last year. He is going to be a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Not this year, I'd go one year with Bojo and draft Braden Mann next year in the 5th round. This kid from Texas A&M has decided to return for his senior season. He averaged 61 yards/ kick against Alabama. He'll be the next Ray Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 hours ago, row_33 said: that proves....... nothing on the field.... so far...... you are suggesting that ST has been an important part of the team the last few years? think real hard.................................................................. Obviously you have not paid attention. Current and former regime has wasted many roster spots on guys who can only play STs. Current squad kept a ST only WR on the roster and that cost them a 3rd round comp pick. Just becuase the STs suck does not mean they don't care about it. When the overall talent level on the team sucks you get ***** STs play. The LB group has been one of the worst in the NFL for years. WR group is slow and awful. The ST coordinator is meaningless. Crossman has had good and bad units statistically. So has the legend of Bobby April. It's all about the players and McBeane put together a crap roster last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 If we could get a really good punter, maybe the best at his position in the draft, vs some schmo LB who is the longest of long shots....why not? Not enough info in this hypothetical to say for sure, but it certainly could be the right move. Ray Guy, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 We have two 5th rounders. Take Mitch Wishnowski from Utah with one of them. 6'2 220 and had an average of 45.1 per punt this year and 44 last year. He was booming them at the Senior Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I hope Carter comes back healthy. Bojorquez is the opposite of reliable. He has a massive leg but his hang time is inconsistent and he made too many big errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Normally I don't think so. I like the prospect from Utah and think the Bills should have him on speed dial as a UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 If Marrone was the coach here hed be a 3rd rounder. Between Carter and Bojangles, we should be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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