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Allen's Last Pass (12/2): Bad Pass or Drop?


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Allen's Last Pass (12/2): Bad Pass or Drop?  

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  1. 1. Allen's Last Pass (12/2): Bad Pass or Drop?



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Allen might have had a fraction of a second to set and get more into it, but when you have a veteran TE who gets hit in the hands and can't hold the ball, nor figure out he needs to work back a little towards his QB, is there a reason to have that veteran TE?

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 You have to keep in mind the specific circumstances of that play. Josh was running for his life. When he made the throw he was off-balance. He had to get it off as fast as possible.He had no time to set his feet. Essentially, it got there. All Clay had to do was take a couple steps towards the pass and catch it. Josh made a great play in my opinion. Shame

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1 minute ago, 34-78-83 said:

Both.

 

But the bad pass has more valid reasons for it.

 

Guy is scrambling, throwing across his body to  wide open receiver who can't figure out too late (before falling on his face) that all he had to do was move a few steps to the ball and walk back into the EZ.  It was 

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Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

Guy is scrambling, throwing across his body to  wide open receiver who can't figure out too late (before falling on his face) that all he had to do was move a few steps to the ball and walk back into the EZ.  It was 

Or catch it and have the first down where he caught it. 

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1 minute ago, Mojo44 said:

 You have to keep in mind the specific circumstances of that play. Josh was running for his life. When he made the throw he was off-balance. He had to get it off as fast as possible.He had no time to set his feet. Essentially, it got there. All Clay had to do was take a couple steps towards the pass and catch it. Josh made a great play in my opinion. Shame

I get that and you can factor that into Allen's performance but technically speaking the question is did Allen deliver a pass his TE should of caught, I think he did.

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Old hands of stone standing in end zone until, Oh *****, the ball is coming to me. Then he broke on the ball to late

Then tried to catch with his hands instead of scooping the ball

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Considering the circumstances, escaping the rush, running for his life, throwing against his shoulder 45 yards in the air.  99% Clay's fault.  Not only could he have caught that he absolutely should have caught it.  He didnt even have to fully extend his arms for that catch. 

 

Great play by Josh 

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1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He was alone in the EZ.  No one would have been there to down him for the first down.

I think the reason he fell was that he was committed to the idea that he had to have the TD. If he had only focused on catching the ball it was easy. It was not a game ending hail mary situation. Just needed the first. 

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7 minutes ago, Success said:

With the time he has, that was a good throw.

 

I’m watching Brady camp in the pocket every time he drops back - what a difference.

 

Brady gets the ball out in 2 and a half seconds pretty much every time. I don't expect Josh to be there as a rookie but ultimately that is where he needs to get to. Snap, recognise the defense and ball out on time. That is what wins in this league long term. 

 

We need to improve his protection, no question..

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11 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Shold Clay have caught the ball?  Or was it just a bad pass?

 

Allen just escaped at least two rushers running for his life. If the pass want perfect he's got an excuse. Clay, on the other hand, needed to come back to the ball, not dive.

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