billsfan_34 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 33 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Having a shut down corner like that lets you do so many things defensively.......then you add in a LB that can cover the entire field.....Taron Johnson...our secondaries..... This defense is pretty good.....it has become our team indentity again Taron- a steal in the 4th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 32 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Having a shut down corner like that lets you do so many things defensively.......then you add in a LB that can cover the entire field.....Taron Johnson...our secondaries..... This defense is pretty good.....it has become our team indentity again I agree, I wish we could've traded for Kalil Mack. This defense would be top 5 right now with him next to Hughes. 12 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said: No one eats off the Tre ?? I want to get a Bills shirt with this on it, !@#$ing amazing post!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 26 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I'm just saying historically Buffalo doesn't resign their number one CB's after their rookie deals. Tres different. McDermott , his teammates and the community love the kid. He's a face of the franchise type player. Ala Revis and Sherman (while it lasted) , those were very good cb but Tre has the potential to be an all time great. No chance he's not re-signed if McBeane is still here. I expect year 4 (2020) is where we lock him up long term An interesting question though, with Johnson looking like a phenomenal nickel, do we target a stud cb next year? Not many in far I see , Verret, Dennard but not many others. Do we target one high in the draft and make this the best secondary in the game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: An interesting question though, with Johnson looking like a phenomenal nickel, do we target a stud cb next year? Not many in far I see , Verret, Dennard but not many others. Do we target one high in the draft and make this the best secondary in the game? Having ten picks they will definitely draft a CB or two. Just a matter of which round. Good ones can be had outside round one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbarrettb Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 He’s played a year and 5 games and he’s a future hall of famer? Ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 37 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Teams don't resign guys who don't bring the value for the price they demand. It's not just the Bills. It's how the NFL works. Winfield played 8 seasons for minnesota and was a pro bowler for them 3 times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 59 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I think we might have a future h.o.f in # 27 . He reminds me of Revis , usually on the best WR u got and QB still don't even pass his way. I loved how the announcer kept saying how u can't throw to Davis , who has been a beast, with White on him. Diggs, Adams and now Davis just blanketed by our stud , future pro bowl, all pro and possibly h.o.f. All he does is bring last weeks paper out and point to his Mom stabbing a dude in the chest and tells them "She says you are next bro.." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) Imagine we kept Darby. Sorry ? hate to be that guy but I still get really bummed about that move. Tre and Darbs... ugh... Edited October 7, 2018 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Winfield played 8 seasons for minnesota and was a pro bowler for them 3 times. True, but the other tow i listed proved to not worth what they were asking. If White falls off then next 2 years, they may to keep him. Why would they? The NFL has proven that overpaying for FA CBs is a costly and avoidable error. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 hours ago, JerseyBills said: I think we might have a future h.o.f in # 27 . He reminds me of Revis , usually on the best WR u got and QB still don't even pass his way. I loved how the announcer kept saying how u can't throw to Davis , who has been a beast, with White on him. Diggs, Adams and now Davis just blanketed by our stud , future pro bowl, all pro and possibly h.o.f. As good as Tre Day is... I would rather had Mahomes... & all our picks that we used to move up... & our players, so that we wouldn't have the $50+ million in Dead cap by choice. But hey... I'm just a fan... what do I know? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Winfield played 8 seasons for minnesota and was a pro bowler for them 3 times. If they had just kept him, the CB carousel wouldn't have existed. Don't forget Leodis in the never ending 1st round CB list too....ugh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: As good as Tre Day is... I would rather had Mahomes... & all our picks that we used to move up... & our players, so that we wouldn't have the $50+ million in Dead cap by choice. But hey... I'm just a fan... what do I know? ? That’s right, you’re just a fan with the benefit or hindsight and zero accountability. While you’re at it why not just say we should have Odell, or Mack instead of Watkins. Hey, why stop there why didn’t we take Tom Brady?!?! This Mahomes schtick is old. You’re probably the same guy that wanted Nassib and every other hot topic qb that became NOTHING in this league. If it was your your call or others like you we’d have a bust top ten qb every year. Grow up. Edited October 7, 2018 by Bobby Hooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, kbarrettb said: He’s played a year and 5 games and he’s a future hall of famer? Ok then The way he carries himself on and off the field at such a young age , I'd say he has the potential to be 1 hour ago, Scorp83 said: As good as Tre Day is... I would rather had Mahomes... & all our picks that we used to move up... & our players, so that we wouldn't have the $50+ million in Dead cap by choice. But hey... I'm just a fan... what do I know? ? Cool story. But on the bright side we have competent individuals at important positions , like GM and HC and they had a different vision. Unfortunately that included the dead cap but the foundation has been laid and the team is littered with talent and the HC and GM have a clear LONG TERM vision and I'm loving what they're putting together , I expect us to be legit contenders by next year for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I'm sure there are cases to be made for a handful of guys but is he in the conversation? No one throws his way. When they do he is in great position. Yes he had a penalty today but in general tre>lattimore as example 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Not sure he is the best, but he is definitely a top corner in the league and I'm glad he's on our team. We just need another one on the opposite side of him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 No, but he’s very good. A good season and he may be considered top 5 or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Pay him early to avoid the garbage that surrounds modern contracts. As soon as we get that cap space next year, we should extend him. Get an early jump on that headache just Incase Allen ends up good. We are going to have to be proactive to avoid a current Seahawks disaster. Once that qb gets paid, that defense gets left for dead. Better sew up a few of the good young ones early. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 From Joe B's Game Summary: 5) The Tre'Davious White treatment continues to impress- The Buffalo Bills have found themselves in a spot where they continue to challenge their second-year cornerback Tre'Davious White, and all they get is more evidence that he is one of the best players -- if not the best player -- on the team. For the fourth straight week, the Bills chose to have White shadow the opponents' top receiver. This time around it was second-year wide receiver Corey Davis, and whenever White was covering him, he didn't do any damage. The only times when Davis made an impact on the game were when the Bills were either in a zone scheme and had a different corner lined up over him, or if the Titans got the Bills to make a mistake by stacking the receivers ahead of the snap. By showing the ability to take away a team's top target, White has given the Bills the ability to do so many different things with their defense in providing unique pressure packages, without the concern that the most talented receiver is going to make them pay in one-on-one coverage. White has been mostly perfect in those shadow matchups, except for Green Bay's Davante Adams, who got the better him on a pair of plays. Don't expect this trend to go away next week, either. I'd expect to see White lined up against his most difficult matchup yet -- DeAndre Hopkins of the Houston Texans. It will be exciting to see how he does against one of the best in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Pay him early to avoid the garbage that surrounds modern contracts. As soon as we get that cap space next year, we should extend him. Get an early jump on that headache just Incase Allen ends up good. We are going to have to be proactive to avoid a current Seahawks disaster. Once that qb gets paid, that defense gets left for dead. Better sew up a few of the good young ones early. When his time comes. He will be one of the highest paid non QB players in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Top 10 easily. Likely in that 3-7 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SWATeam Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Nute Hopkins on deck. Shut him down Tre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Bills need to give him a contract extension after the season. I get it - "rookie contract" blah blah. But there are some players that you just don't screw around with. Tre deserves to get paid what he's worth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 He's way up there. I'm having trouble thinking of guys I'd take over Tre , he's that good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Bills need to give him a contract extension after the season. I get it - "rookie contract" blah blah. But there are some players that you just don't screw around with. Tre deserves to get paid what he's worth. I could be wrong but I don’t think they can even offer a contract until his rookie deal is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Bills need to give him a contract extension after the season. I get it - "rookie contract" blah blah. But there are some players that you just don't screw around with. Tre deserves to get paid what he's worth. Serious question: Is he even eligible for an extension after this season? When can a first round pick get a new deal??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Pay him early to avoid the garbage that surrounds modern contracts. As soon as we get that cap space next year, we should extend him. Get an early jump on that headache just Incase Allen ends up good. We are going to have to be proactive to avoid a current Seahawks disaster. Once that qb gets paid, that defense gets left for dead. Better sew up a few of the good young ones early. Too soon. Cost controlled for 3 more seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I think calling him best in the league is a stretch... but I don’t think you’d have anybody argue if you said he’s top-5, maybe even top-3. I mean, can you think of more than two guys around the league that are clearly, obviously, far-and-away better than Tre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I'll take it, Tre number one !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Pay him early to avoid the garbage that surrounds modern contracts. As soon as we get that cap space next year, we should extend him. Get an early jump on that headache just Incase Allen ends up good. We are going to have to be proactive to avoid a current Seahawks disaster. Once that qb gets paid, that defense gets left for dead. Better sew up a few of the good young ones early. We aren’t even allowed to sign him to a new deal until year 4 As he was a 1st round pick and not UDFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Best Player Available said: When his time comes. He will be one of the highest paid non QB players in the league. I know now it is years down the road, but honestly...you can let this on go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I saw the Cardinals game today and you really can't top Patrick Peterson yet. Man can do it all and he's a vet in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Augie said: Serious question: Is he even eligible for an extension after this season? When can a first round pick get a new deal??? You can extend after the end of his 3rd year. So that the end of next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, SWATeam said: Nute Hopkins on deck. Shut him down Tre #27 is Tre-mendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: We aren’t even allowed to sign him to a new deal until year 4 As he was a 1st round pick and not UDFA I thought you could extend your own guys before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 11 hours ago, Rc2catch said: I could be wrong but I don’t think they can even offer a contract until his rookie deal is over. I think it’s 4 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 If he stops Hopkins from taking over the game next week he moves up to top 3 in my book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 He's in the conversation, no doubt - but I think the edge goes to Peterson and Ramsey because of their rare size/speed combos. I'd rank White behind those two, perhaps with Slay, Rhodes, and Macus Peters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 15 hours ago, purple haze said: Terrence McGee on line one for you... McGee was the #2 at the time to Clements I believe? 13 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: True, but the other tow i listed proved to not worth what they were asking. If White falls off then next 2 years, they may to keep him. Why would they? The NFL has proven that overpaying for FA CBs is a costly and avoidable error. Tre White seems like a cornerstone player to me and is worth resigning to a mega deal. Based on those Bills Embedded clips I really like his personality. He doesn't seem to take himself super seriously. I do agree with what you're saying though. I believe Tre can be an exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 PFF loved him last year but not so much this year. I forget who said it, but someone was talking about Josh Norman when he "broke out", they said he was the same player he's always been, just one year he decided to start talking trash in the media and suddenly he got recognized as a top CB. I think that's a pretty apt description of the recognition Tre (doesn't) get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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