4merper4mer Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) It meant nothing but there is zero way to explain the no reversal on the flip to McCloud called a fumble. It wasn't the worst in terms of impact but it could not have been an easier reversal. Mahomes and Brady use that play and when it works it is called a completion, not a rush. Can anyone explain? Edited September 23, 2018 by 4merper4mer 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chovaz Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: It meant nothing but there is zero way to explain the no reversal on the flip to McCloud called a fumble. It wasn't the worst in terms of impact but it could not have been an easier reversal. Mahomes and Brady use that play and when it works it is called a completion, not a rush. Can anyone explain? Agreed. And ridiculous to CONFIRM it and not just "call stands" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 That is always a pass. Unreal call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: It meant nothing but there is zero way to explain the no reversal on the flip to McCloud called a fumble. It wasn't the worst in terms of impact but it could not have been an easier reversal. Mahomes and Brady use that play and when it works it is called a completion, not a rush. Can anyone explain? Unfortunately, there is no explanation. Horrible call and even worse non reversal. Romo couldn’t believe it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 The NFL will announce it a was a wrong call later this week, undoubtedly... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 [This is an automated response] As a courtesy to the other board members, please use more descriptive topic titles. A better title will help the community find information faster and make your topic more likely to be read. The topic starter can edit the topic title line to make it more appropriate. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 I hate replay so much. If they got it right more often, I'd be better with it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 terrible call I'm sure they will be going over in the refs prep meeting for next week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) Was mind boggling and made zero sense. I thought the challenge was an excellent one as well. Always a 1st though, just like the illegal block in the back when we were the ones punting the ball? WTH? How does that even happen? Edited September 23, 2018 by Real McCoy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Allen’s hand was moving forward and the announcers on TV agreed. it doesn’t matter now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, SDS said: [This is an automated response] As a courtesy to the other board members, please use more descriptive topic titles. A better title will help the community find information faster and make your topic more likely to be read. The topic starter can edit the topic title line to make it more appropriate. Thank you. To be completely honest, I knew exactly what play he was talking about as soon as I read the title. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: It meant nothing but there is zero way to explain the no reversal on the flip to McCloud called a fumble. It wasn't the worst in terms of impact but it could not have been an easier reversal. Mahomes and Brady use that play and when it works it is called a completion, not a rush. Can anyone explain? That unsportsmanlike on Tre was a pretty God awful call as well. That was a beautiful, textbook tackle. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Someone here told me a few days ago that the replay system works fine... It doesn’t. The NFL is populated by bozos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: To be completely honest, I knew exactly what play he was talking about as soon as I read the title. Could've been the unnecessary roughness call too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 The even more sad part is they “confirmed” the call 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 37 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: That unsportsmanlike on Tre was a pretty God awful call as well. That was a beautiful, textbook tackle. That's what I thought too. No fault on Tre, but the helmets did collide... Only way to avoid is to tackle low and then they can say you lead with the helmet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Jerome007 said: That's what I thought too. No fault on Tre, but the helmets did collide... Only way to avoid is to tackle low and then they can say you lead with the helmet... Grazed. Didn't justify a flag as he did try to avoid helmet contact. I do see your defense of the call but I don't agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Yeah, I have a feeling they are running the play that way specifically so that it can't be a fumble. I can't believe it didn't get overturned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: Could've been the unnecessary roughness call too. Another bumping of the heads bad call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfansinceday1 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 It was a bad call but I don’t think we will see that one again any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 (edited) NFL League news feed Monday 9-24 Refs blew the fumble call. It was an incomplete pass Edited September 24, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Bills ran that exact play last week, and we were chuckling that Allen had a completion on a ball that traveled less than a yard in the air. That was a pass last week, so this week its a..... fumble??? I'm sure the Bills will send the NFL office those two plays, and tell them to get the call right next time!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills11 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 It's 2018...there is no excuse for the bs going on with the nfl rules...if the people in the replay booth cant even interpret calls correctly that are so obvious how are games supposed to be officiated correctly. From the garbage call on tre white to that joke of a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 What really pissed me off is when the guy announced "The ruling on the field has been confirmed." These guys truly don't have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 And announcers calling it a jet sweep need to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Lurker said: The NFL will announce it a was a wrong call later this week, undoubtedly... Or they could probably double down, say it's the correct call, and use it in teaching sessions like they did the Clay Matthews penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: It meant nothing but there is zero way to explain the no reversal on the flip to McCloud called a fumble. It wasn't the worst in terms of impact but it could not have been an easier reversal. Mahomes and Brady use that play and when it works it is called a completion, not a rush. Can anyone explain? Think it was because it looked exactly the same as if he’d dropped the ball. There was no forward arm motion that I could see. He just released it with his hand. The intent was a shovel pass but you can’t go by intent. If he had just dropped it, it would’ve looked exactly the same. Guessing that was it. I actually thought it was a fair call for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Only way they can say it was a fumble is bc the ball was simply dropped into the runners grasp, with no forward movement. That is not what happened, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: NFL League news feed Monday 9-24 Refs blew the fumble call. I was an incomplete pass You don't have to own up. No one with eyes actually believed you were a fumble anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, transient said: You don't have to own up. No one with eyes actually believed you were a fumble anyway. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 hours ago, DuckyBoys said: terrible call I'm sure they will be going over in the refs prep meeting for next week Isn't the final determination made in NYC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Getting really tired of the NFL apology letter saying, Yeah we boned you again, but at least we used KY instead of extra crunchy peanut butter with glass shards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 The evidence was clear and convincing....no clue how that was not a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 32 minutes ago, JimKellyTryouts said: Or they could probably double down, say it's the correct call, and use it in teaching sessions like they did the Clay Matthews penalty? Has it taught Clay Matthews anything? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 It was funny how everyone associated with the Broadcast were even saying it should be overturned and an incomplete pass. Romo, the NFL Rules guy that CBS has working for them even said the same thing, no one understood how that play is ruled a fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 The only thing I could think at the time was that they were saying Allen didn't have possession of the ball before pushing it forward. I think the replay was clear, but it's all I could think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: It meant nothing but there is zero way to explain the no reversal on the flip to McCloud called a fumble. It wasn't the worst in terms of impact but it could not have been an easier reversal. Mahomes and Brady use that play and when it works it is called a completion, not a rush. Can anyone explain? It was simply the wrong call. When Tony Romo asked their referee analyst about the call he simply said that it was a bad call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 The flip was to Marcus Murphy, but it was a bad call nonetheless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I’m just glad we don’t get an apology letter saying “sorry we screwed you into a loss!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 games, 3 first year officials running the crew. Thanks NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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